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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 06:05 PM Original message |
I just re-wrote the poem: "It Is The Soldier" |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
1. hoo boy. put on your flame suit. |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 06:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Soldiers defend the state |
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 06:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Actually, the state doesn't give you rights. |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 06:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Exactly. |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 06:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. right, but ideally, the troops protect america's freedoms by default |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 06:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. "default" is the main word here. |
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 06:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. But America isn't a totalitarian state, |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 06:39 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. And it never will be because of the work of Activists, not solders. |
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jack99 (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-11-04 12:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
57. Well said JIBJAB!! |
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SoDesuKa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
2. It Is the Activist |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 06:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
17. The flux? |
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SoDesuKa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-04 01:12 PM Response to Reply #17 |
50. It Is the Solder |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-04 02:01 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. I noticed the error to late. |
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
5. With all due respect, |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 06:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. thank you for articulating my point better than me. |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 06:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. The military has very little to do with human rights or freedom. |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 06:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. if america did not have a defensive force for the past 200 years |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 06:42 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Maybe not. |
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 06:56 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Or rather, what is given to every person by God. |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 07:00 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Self Deleted |
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 07:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Right. |
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 06:37 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I beg to differ. |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 06:57 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Okay, let's use WWII as an example. |
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 07:01 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Nor are they created by activists. |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 07:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. No it isn't. |
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 08:28 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. But who eventually crushed the Nazis? |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 08:51 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. The Nazis had a huge military, that didn't make them free. |
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 09:30 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. I never said the military, by itself, makes you free. |
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Booster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
8. Just my opinion, but if you left out "not the soldier" and |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 06:33 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. That was the exact purpose of the original poem: |
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 06:54 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. I think you've just twisted to the other extreme. |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 06:54 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. it doesn't equate militarism with ANYTHING. it teaches respect. |
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 07:04 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. True enough. I think the whole problem here is that |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 07:08 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Interesting that you read it that way. |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 07:10 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. i know you're not specifically talking about american soldiers... |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 07:20 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Have you heard about Ft. Benning? |
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 08:13 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. And neither do activists, by themselves. |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 08:30 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. No they don't. |
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 08:55 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. If there was no patriotic disciplined army, |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 09:11 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. It was the activist founders who raised the army |
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 10:00 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. Activists don't create freedom either. |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 10:13 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Yup. |
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-04 06:38 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. That is why we need both. |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
28. what came first, the chicken or the egg? that is how i view this. |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 07:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. According to the Constitution Freedom & Liberty came first. |
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scottcsmith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
33. The activist? |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 08:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Read the entire thread. |
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 08:30 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Thank you, sir. |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 09:02 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. In the morning, it is my habit to thank the sun for rising. |
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 09:20 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Not to nitpick, but you've consistently |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 09:42 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. OMFG! I am such a moran! |
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 09:49 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. And off the deep end you go.... |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-04 10:09 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Let's go ahead and ask Osama! Don't take my word for it. |
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-04 06:26 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. You actually take the word of Osama? |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-04 06:41 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Injustice |
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qwispichkn (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-04 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
55. Yea, The ACTIVIST will protect us from this? |
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patrick862 (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-04 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
56. Don't both fight? |
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