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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 10:41 PM
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Ok...I could defend Matrix 2, but 3????
Blew it for me.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 10:46 PM
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1. 3 is indefensible
Edited on Wed Apr-07-04 10:47 PM by Rabrrrrrr
Almost amounting to a crime against humanity, but not quite.

I was appalled by it, and pissed off. Not as pissed off as I was by Nemesis, but pissed off.

What a shitty movie. Technically well done, and the huge ass battle scene was done amazingly well, but huge ass battle scene was totally unnecessary and the story sucked.

Pfagh on matrix 3 and all those who liked it. All the magnifience, the amibuigty, the questioning of the original was hammered out existence entirely by the third movie.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 10:48 PM
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5. Two opened it up to Gnostic theology
and almost all of that was left out in the final movie.

Sheesh.

And Neo is missing from the film for almost an hour?

Sheeesh.

I really enjoyed how part two opened up the entire world, but part three just seemed to shut them all down.

sigh....
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 11:27 PM
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14. Absolutely
Edited on Wed Apr-07-04 11:27 PM by Rabrrrrrr
I also liked 2 quite a bit, though it could have been much better. I liked where it was going and what it had to say. (and the fight scene on the highway was AWESOME, though awfully gratuitous)

And as you say, number 3 took all the coolness of the two movies (especially the first one) and pushed it all aside and made it irrelevant. Number 3 ended so tidily, so sacchariney, I couldn't stand it.

I really wanted the story to end on as ambiguous a tenor as it had int he beginning: asking, What is real?
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 10:46 PM
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2. I was very disapointed with Matrix 2, and haven't seen 3
After watching Matrix 2, I felt they dropped the whole metaphorical aspect of the first Matrix in the process of fleshing out their fictional universe (which is about all they could do, I suppose, if they were set on a trilogy).

When I watched The Matrix (the first one) the second time, and then the third (it's been on cable), the 'Industrial Culture as Matrix' theme seemed even more overt.

I think that the end of the first Matrix was a good place to end. Do you know if it was originally written as a trilogy, or did they tack on 2 and 3 after the success of Matrix 1?
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 10:48 PM
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3. it was originallt going to
have 2 & 3 as a comic book, the watchowski brothers never expected it to do that well
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 11:01 PM
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11. Wasn't the Matrix
a ripoff of a comic book to begin with?
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codegreen Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 10:48 PM
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4. a completely dissapointing piece of flash crap movie; and i sorta liked 2
Edited on Wed Apr-07-04 10:49 PM by codegreen
devastatingly tedious, cliche, unenlightening, and insufficient.

i demand a rewrite.
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Langis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 10:50 PM
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6. There was no Matrix 2 or 3
Please never speak of them again
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 10:51 PM
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7. What really depresses me...
(Ok, we're talking geek here...)

I was going to be able to watch this film on our new HDTV. I don't think I could watch it again.
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_Wayne_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 11:04 PM
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12. HDTV would not matter, not for DVD's
I enjoyed Matrix Revolutions, not as much as Reloaded, and certainly not as much as the original. There was, in my opinion, so much potential for the third installment, and we were all let down. Nonetheless, it was a decent movie when compared to others in 2003. It may have broke into my top 20. It's not saying much, but I don't think it deservered the amount of criticism it received.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 10:55 PM
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8. I want a pill to make me forget that piece of shit.
I could kinda sorta defend 2, but 3!!!!!!!!!!!!
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neverborn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 11:00 PM
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9. I really liked 3!
Hated 2.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 11:01 PM
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10. I thought 3 was slightly better than 2
and 2 was piss poor so that's not saying much eh?
The first one blew my mind.
Those greedy Wachowski brothers! All they care about is the bling bling. Peter Jackson had the right idea with Lord of the Rings.
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SW FL Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 11:07 PM
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13. I'm sitting at my puter waiting for my kid and his friend to fall asleep
Guess I'm gonna be reading DU for another hour or so.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 11:31 PM
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I could only justify 2 by predicting a really good 3.
Nostradameus I ain't.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 11:31 PM
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15. i think success of the first was part of the downfall
because I remember reading in 99 that the studio companies immediately signed up for two sequels before the first one was out of the theater...

2 and 3 were too long, and it shows where they were unmercifully stretched. I think if they chop off parts of 2 and 3, then they have a pretty good sequel and just leave it at that...
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 11:31 PM
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16. I was never a huge Matrix fan, but the first one was fun and fluffy.
I could never get past the concept that hundreds of years in the future with all these advances in technology, two thirds of the movies involves people punching and kicking each other.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 11:36 PM
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17. Just bought "Revolutions" on DVD
Edited on Wed Apr-07-04 11:39 PM by RatTerrier
Just had to have all three.

I watched it again, and it had some things I liked, such as Agent Smith and some of the effects. Other than that, it was the weakest of the three films. Especially since it dragged quite a bit. The war was too long, Neo was gone for about 45 minutes, and there wasn't enough time in 'the Matrix'. And, like the Star Wars prequels, they had to damn near kill the movies by throwing in some stupid senate/council subplot. AAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!! I don't give a shit about sci-fi politics. Real politics is enough sci-fi for me!

"Reloaded" was pretty decent, although it paled in comparison to the original. I liked some of the weird elements thrown in to the story line. It grew on me over time.

I will say this: "Animatrix" is awesome, and I usually despise anime.
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