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Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:43 PM
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#walkingdead better freaking find Sophia tonight.
They invented this "mid-season finale" thing, so at least wrap up some loose ends.
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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:55 PM
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1. I agree! Can anyone give me a play-by-play? Stuck at the office..
though at least I now have cable at home -- but I'd love to know what is happening!
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Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:00 PM
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2. Typing on touch screen,but I'll try mm
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Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:03 PM
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3. glen told the group about the walkers in the barn
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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:04 PM
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4. Oooh!
Was there a freak-out?

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Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:21 PM
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7. not really
but they were surprised. Dale was there, and explained the reasons. But they don't feel safe.
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Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:19 PM
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6. news about Lori's pregnancy is out
Rick used the pregnancy to plead with Herschel to let them stay on the farm. Otherwise,he insisted, they had to be out by the end of the week.
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Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:24 PM
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8. but Herschel still wants them out
his daughter is making the case for them now.
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Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:37 PM
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9. Carl said 'bullshit'
he talked tough with Shane. Insisted they were staying until Sophia was found.

Dale hid the guns so Shane wouldn't kill the walkers. Dale and Shane really hate each other now.

Herschel took Rick to rescue two stranded walkers. They brought those loops that dog catchers use.
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Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:45 PM
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11. I think Carol and Daryl will be a couple soon nm
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Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:57 PM
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14. the situation has come to a head
Shane went ballistic. Let the walkers out of the barn. They all had to shoot whether they wanted to or not.

then Sophia came out . She's a walker
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Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:58 PM
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15. ^ major spoiler above!
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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 09:31 PM
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24. that was one hell of an intense scene.
I got home about 9:45 and turned it on - sat there stunned. I know Shane is borderline (?) nuts, but his point that someone who was simply 'ill' couldn't take bullets to the chest and still live hopefully got through to a (no doubt) shell-shocked Hershel.
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:10 PM
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5. I think our little group is falling apart.
I agree, they are going to have to do something about Sophia. They can't leave this until February.
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:43 PM
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10. Herschel still doesn't get it.
Not even now. Glenn is right -- they're just plain dangerous, and that's the bottom line. Herschel can't lock all the walkers in his barn.
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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:56 PM
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12. Just found Sophia
:(
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 09:04 PM
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21. wow
what an ending for her
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 11:00 PM
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30. Yeah, they certainly did.
Yikes.

Although in hindsight, that was always a possibility.

However, Hershel never mentioned finding her, even after the secret of the barn was found out, so I just assumed she was still lost in the woods.

Of course now Hershel and Sophia's mom are now devastated.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:56 PM
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13. Now we know...
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 09:00 PM
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16. Damn it.
That sucked.
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lifesbeautifulmagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 09:00 PM
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17. wow!!
that was intense.

Title should include "spoiler". :)
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Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 09:05 PM
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22. sorry
When I started the thread I didn't know I'd be giving a play by play.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 11:05 PM
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31. You did a good job with the play-by-play
It is a live discussion thread, after all.
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 09:02 PM
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18. Sophia!
:cry:
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 09:02 PM
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19. Holy shit!
That was a hell of an ending! :wow:
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Recovered Repug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 09:03 PM
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20. My first reaction was "I didn't see that coming".
Then again, on this show anything is bound to happen.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 09:08 PM
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23. I was rooting for Dale
Edited on Sun Nov-27-11 09:15 PM by NewJeffCT
spoiler text below:
to pull the trigger on Shane.


In the comics (more spoiler text below):
in the comics, one of Hershel's family gets killed by walkers when they open up the barn (Otis maybe?)






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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 11:58 PM
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42. Otis had to die early because he was the one who put Sophia in the barn.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 09:39 PM
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25. found her
:nuke:
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 09:41 PM
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26. Well Rick finally proved his manhood (spoiler)
Edited on Sun Nov-27-11 09:42 PM by Duer 157099
when he finally pulled his gun on a little girl walker! Was that intended irony or what?

I don't recall seeing any children walkers earlier in the season, were there? I began to think that maybe child walkers were different, that they could somehow be saved.

Guess not.

Intense episode, and glad Darrell finally said what I was thinking about how they weren't really looking for Sophia too seriously.

Also: I'm convinced that the CDC guy told Rick that Lori was pregnant, which is why he seemed to know before she told him, and he took it in stride. And the baby IS Shane's.
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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 11:43 PM
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37. I'm re-watching the first episodes on Netflix - the first walker Rick shoots ...
... is a child. Very similar to the Sophia shot.
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 11:44 PM
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38. Rick felt responsible for losing her to begin with.
So the only thing for him to do was end it rather than leaving it for someone else.

There was a child walker right out of the gate - first episode of season one.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 03:19 PM
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52. Rick killed another little girl walker early on -- maybe in the 1st season.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 06:38 PM
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54. it was actually the open sequence of episode 1
then, they had the flashback to Rick getting shot and then waking up in the hospital...
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 08:05 PM
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55. Ahh, right. Thank you.
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 09:48 PM
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27. I am in Austin visting friends who are watching Lord of the Rings.
I was afraid the little girl was a walker, she was gone for to long.

Shane is crazy, it is the heat.

Glad to know what happened, I will try to watch it later.



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Recovered Repug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 10:47 PM
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28. The more I think about it, Herschel was kind of a dick.
He had to have known/strongly suspected that the missing girl was in the barn. I can see wanting to keep the barn secret, but even after the secret got out he didn't say anything. He was willing to let the group go down the road without ever knowing what happened to her daughter.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 10:54 PM
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29. I don't think he knew
And besides, he didn't know what Sophia looked like so even if he knew there was a little girl, how would he know it was her?

I still think it's weird that almost all of the walkers are adults.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 11:13 PM
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33. Well, if you find a 'tween female walker...
Edited on Sun Nov-27-11 11:13 PM by krispos42
...and then a day later ten people come to your farm saying one of their own was shot while looking for a lost girl, you should be able to put two and two together to get four.

I think he thought he had to keep Sophia the walker a secret so the group would move on. I think that's why he was pushing for them to leave, even though it was obvious that the farm would need manpower to plant and crow crops in an environment without modern farming tools such as fertilizers, tractors, insecticide, and high-yield seed.

Once he didn't tell them immediately, he was trapped on the path of continuing to hide her from them, both to protect his initial duplicity and to protect his secret in the barn.


I suppose he could have salvaged his position by somehow separating Sophie the walker out of the barn herd and letting her free, to be discovered by the sentry on top of the RV, but that operation would have risk of discovery.
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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 11:46 PM
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39. Maybe he thought he was "saving her" by not revealing her existence.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 11:51 PM
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40. Good point. Hershel things they can be cured, so that's something I didn't consider.
Excellent point, actually.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 12:03 AM
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43. This was explained on talking dead.
It was Otis's job to put the walkers in the barn. He had gone into town before anyone learned they were looking for a little girl.
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Recovered Repug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 11:14 PM
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34. I seem to remember Herschal saying that nothing happened
on the farm without him knowing about it. While he didn't know what Sophia looked like however, a little girl is put in the barn around the same time that a group of people are looking for a missing girl. I don't think it would have required Sherlock Holmes to make the connection.
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 11:07 PM
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32. It was Otis who put the little girl in the barn, his job was to catch the walkers.
I just found this out watching Talking Dead.

Herschel still had to guess the little girl walker was the missing girl.
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 11:19 PM
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35. Alice Cooper just called "Talking Dead!"
:rofl:
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 11:33 PM
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36. They have "Walking Dead" Action figures!
:rofl:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 11:55 PM
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41. My daughter, laughed, LAUGHED at me because I told her I would be busy
watching Walking Dead. And then she text me to tell me that on her first night back from vacation, her boyfriend won't go out because he's watching Walking Dead. LOL!
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 12:23 AM
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44. I am watching the show now and Rick just told Shane about the baby.
I think that is when Shane decided to open the barn door and kill the walkers.

Shane knows he is the father and he will protect his child.

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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 12:47 AM
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45. The ending was epic.
Can't wait till February.
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 04:22 AM
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46. I blame the OP's impatience for Sophia's demise!!!!
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:rofl:
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That quiet, pathetic little Walker growl of Sophia's and the fact that she took so long to come out
had me thinking she was suddenly going to say, "It's about TIME you found me. They were starting
to catch on that I was posing."
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 12:43 PM
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47. I said early on that Sophia was on the farm.
She was a sad little zombie.

Big bad Shane couldn't shoot her, Rick had to step up.
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 12:50 PM
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48. It HAD to be Rick... he felt so mistakenly guilty about and responsible for how she disappeared. n/t
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 01:10 PM
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49. Everybody else just stood their not moving.
Rick did the right thing.
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 01:22 PM
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50. I thought the ending was brilliant because it completely turned Shane's arguement on its head
Shane's whole breakdown/arguement was that the zombies are just that: zombies/walkers. They aren't people. They are mindless, killing machines. So he had no problem shooting Hershel's neighbors and family right in front of him.


But then Sophia comes out and suddenly Shane's arguement is flipped. Now that walker is someone that HE/HIS group cares about. All that bravado that accompanied the massacre is gone and Rick is now the only one capable of actually shooting Sophia.

I loved that the Walking Dead made you actually care about the zombies as they were being massacred. And that's what happened, it was a massacre. So far, only George Romero has done a movie where you actually cared about the zombies (Land of the Dead).
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 01:59 PM
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51. Shane likes to act tough.
The female zombie that was shot in the face with her teeth showing was Hershel's wife.

I can understand Shane's point of view but you have to have some control over youself.

What would we do if we had to live with zombies, I would shoot them.
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 03:27 PM
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53. I thought that Herschel's argument about the "undefeatable plagues" through history...
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... up to and including AIDS was compelling and made ME think
a bit deeper about it.
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