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shekina Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 08:33 PM
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Is there such a thing as heterophobia?
We hear alot about homophobia on this board, but is there such a thing as heterophobia? Just asking.
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 08:33 PM
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1. Probably not.
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 08:34 PM
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2. Definately.
Absolutely it exists.
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shekina Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 08:35 PM
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3. ya think you could give an example
without offending anyone?
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 08:47 PM
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8. An extreme example would be...
Edited on Sun Apr-04-04 08:48 PM by DarkPhenyx
...any homosexual who has been abused, physically or verbally, to the point where the are no longer comfortable among any het people, or that they assume all hets are homophobic.

<on edit>

Or you can go to post #5.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 08:36 PM
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4. If there is something to be afraid of...
..they probably have a classification for it.
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 08:38 PM
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5. I might be suffering from that....
...I really dont want to hang around straight people when Im not at work of if I dont have to.

Online, at a place like DU, its different, but in real life, where I live & work, its not a good or very validating thing to do. Im always on gaurd around straight people, so I really want to "relax" when Im off work.

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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 08:38 PM
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6. I suppose it's *possible*...
however, I've never met a gay person who had an irrational fear or distrust of heteros.

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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 08:38 PM
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7. no but there is phobophobia
which is fear of your own fears
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 08:49 PM
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9. There is a fear of everything.
"Thalisiphobia" I think. That would pretty much cover fear of fear I would think.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 08:51 PM
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10. I'm scared to death of heterosexual men,
which means I'm scared of myself. :D
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shekina Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 08:53 PM
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12. I'm scared to death of heterosexual women
for some reason, I just don't have a way with the ladies. Yet....I have a girlfriend.......guess I just got lucky :D
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 08:52 PM
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11. heterophobia
"I'm very uncomfortable with the idea of vaginas. They bother me in the way that spiders bother some people."
--Boy George
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shekina Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 08:54 PM
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13. why does that quote not surprise me in the least
considering who it's coming from.
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 08:55 PM
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15. Just goes to show what a phobia can be.
We all have them.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 08:54 PM
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14. Rock Hudson allegedly told his "wife" that
the female genitals were like "cattle."
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shekina Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 08:55 PM
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16. Rock Hudson was gay?
are you serious?
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 08:57 PM
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17. Yes. I thought that was a well-known fact.
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 08:58 PM
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18. I think someone is pulling your leg.
.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 08:59 PM
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19. That's what I thought too,
but one can never be sure.
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shekina Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 09:00 PM
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21. no really. I didn't know
scouts honor. this is news to me.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 09:20 PM
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29. no, Rock Hudson really was gay
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 09:17 PM
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28. He is correct. Hudson was a homo.
You wouldn't believe those who are.

Though some have theorized that certain historical persons are homosexual. Those I wouldn't readily believe; most notably the kettle of cack being passed around that claims Abe Lincoln was gay (either physically or even 'emotionally' as being an excuse a few have made...)

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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 09:00 PM
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20. absolutely
there's a segment of women who HATE straight men.
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shekina Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 09:02 PM
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22. wouldn't that be more sexist than heterophobic?
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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 09:05 PM
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23. if someone hates gays we call them homophobic
I'm just replacing
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shekina Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 09:06 PM
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24. ya kinda threw me off
with the whole part about women hating men. Cause when men hate women, it's sexist, so wouldn't it be the same thing if women hated men?
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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 09:11 PM
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26. let's settle out of court :)
let's call it sexist and heterophobic. As a straight guy though I don't take offense, it actually cracks me up. Especially the part whe they try to look like men...

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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 09:10 PM
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25. No.
Edited on Sun Apr-04-04 09:13 PM by Bertha Venation
The term homophobia was coined only recently and means "irrational fear or hatred of or aversion toward homosexuals."

I have only heard the nonsense word "heterophobia" in one context: used by homophobes as retaliation for being called homophobic -- i.e., I have been called a "heterophobe" innumerable times by bigots having their bigotry pointed out to them.

The strange thing is that these bigots who use that word don't realize how stupid "heterophobia" would be -- since at least 85-90% of the population is heterosexual, we "heterophobes" would be hating nearly everyone on the planet.

edit: That would mean that I hated my grandmother, my sisters and BIL, almost all of my in-laws, my uncle, aunts, and cousins, most of my co-workers, probably all of my neighbors . . . .

BTW -- looking forward to your email or PM reply.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 09:14 PM
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27. Rationally?
No phobia has rational roots.

It is fathomable to believe that a homosexual or bisexual person could have an inheirant dislike toward heterosexuals...

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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 09:23 PM
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30. Kamika? _Jumper_?
:shrug:
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 09:24 PM
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31. It would be hard to believe a person could be heterophobic
but I do think one can approach being heterophobic. In the immediate aftermath of my having been attacked I found it very difficult to be around straight people, especially young men, who I didn't know. I wouldn't go so far as to call that heterophobic but it wasn't healthy or completely rational either.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 09:50 PM
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32. We fear those things that we have no knowledge of...
We feel fear, because of our own ignorance.

One must get away from all of the semantics involved, and have the courage to look inside ourselves for answers. Fear is born of ignorance; fear begets anger. This is base stuff, and one must come down to base level to really appreciate how we work. Why do we get angry?

We get angry because we don't get our way. There is nothing spectacular about that, it is a base truth. We often don't get our way, because we are afraid to try or accept something. We do not accept, because we do not know. It all comes back to ignorance.

I realize that this probably sounds too simplistic, but as humans, we tend to over-think some situations. I am straight, do I fear or hate homosexuals, heterosexuals, blacks, asians? Is there ANY group I despise? No. I try to understand all I can, (I often fail, but I try. Understanding, does not mean acceptance, it means understanding. Understanding, is the key to acceptance).

To take this a step further, are there white, blacks, asians, heterosexuals or homosexuals that I do not like? You bet! But they are individuals, not groups of individuals. There lies the problem with bigotry. You may not like ME, but that does not infer that you don't like all straight white males. Far to often, we take what is a personal slight, and make it a group slight. We create our own bigotry, because we often do not accept that we, as individuals, may have personalities that are not enjoyed by everyone.

If a person is not attempting to do us harm, we should not be afraid of that person. We may not like him or her, but there is no reason to 'fear' them.

I apologize for being long winded, and will accept all flames pointed in my direction. But bigotry is repulsive to me, and I try to fight it wherever I can. I feel you must understand it before you can fight it.

O8)
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Mrs. Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 10:05 PM
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33. Is It Possible? Yes.
Is it prevalent? I doubt it. Having been out of the closet for some 30 years, now, I have met and gotten to know many gay people, and I've never met even one who could reasonably be called heterophobic.

Let's look at the definition of homophobia (from Merriam-Webster): irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals.

I think it would be logical to define heterophobia in the same terms, but directed at heterosexual people. Consider the fact, though, that the vast majority of gay people are born to and raised by heterosexual parents; we have heterosexual siblings, aunts, uncles, grandparents, cousins, etc. We live in a world dominated by heterosexual people, and we must be able to function and thrive in that world. It is simply not rational to think that heterophobia is as pervasive as is homophobia.

I've heard the word thrown about by homophobic people who resented having that particular bias pointed out to them. I think this is the first time I've encountered the term outside that situation.

The gay people I know love their families. I have strong bonds and close ties with my extended family, especially on my mother's side of the family. I work with predominately heterosexual people and I count some of my colleagues as my dearest friends.

So, does heterophobia exist? Possibly. But I think the people with that irrational hatred and fear would be a minuscule part of the homosexual population, and, like homophobes, they should get into therapy without delay.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 10:11 PM
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34. Fucking straight people! Why do they have to parade it around?
;-)

Seriously though, I'd say a phobia of anything is possible.
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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 10:35 PM
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35. my Earring Magic Ken doll
is wearing a button that says "I'm Hetero-Phobic". of course we added that.

he is also wearing what appears to be a cockring on a chain around his neck. i mean, what else could it be. it's just about the right size, based on his manly bulge.

ken is just SO gay.

he is always on display, still in his original box.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 10:37 PM
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36. It's Liza's charity
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