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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 07:55 PM
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Hey All You Former And Current, Don't Trust Anybody Over 30er's
Buffalo Springfield - 'For What It's Worth'

There's something happening here
What it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware

I think it's time we stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

There's battle lines being drawn
Nobody's right if everybody's wrong
Young people speaking their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind

I think it's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

What a field-day for the heat
A thousand people in the street
Singing songs and carrying signs
Mostly say, hooray for our side

It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away

We better stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, now, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

:shrug:

Ironic, no?

:beer:

:smoke:

:hi:


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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 07:58 PM
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1. I'm well past 30 now.
And I still don't trust 'em!
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:00 PM
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2. I almost posted that this morning; went with The Beatles instead (Buffalo Springfield link inside)
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:01 PM
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3. A blast from the past and a song for today
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:01 PM
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4. Stephen Stills Wrote That 43 Years Ago...
...and the words still ring true. I'm one of those that stopped trusting myself sometime in the early 80s.

Cheers...
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donnamarie Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:02 PM
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5. Awesome ear worm!
:)
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:11 PM
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9. Welcome To DU, donnamarie !!!
:toast: :bounce: :toast:

Glad ta have ya aboard!

:hi:


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donnamarie Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:25 PM
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16. Many thanks -
I gather it's quite a tumultuous time on DU :)
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:27 PM
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17. Shh... Don't Tell Anybody...
:evilgrin:

:hi:
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:07 PM
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6. that was such a bullshit saying even back then
I was given some of the best advice in my life from people OVER 30. They survived the Depression, WWI & WWII. And I still to this day use the tools they taught me.

Now I just feel sad when I see the level of ignorant coming up behind me. Because even if I did offer a suggestion, they'd parade that old *don't trust anyone over 30* bullshit trap for young people.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:51 PM
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21. Actually, it came from the Free Speech Movement, and had a different meaning...
Credit where due. The phrasing "We don't trust anyone over thirty" came from Jack Weinberg, who was indeed among the leadership of the UC Berkeley Free Speech Movement. Jack was, in fact, the person arrested on Sproul Plaza for trespass on October 1, 1964, and the more or less spontaneous protest where we surrounded the police car in which he was held was the tipping-point event that led directly to all of the sit-ins and strike actions - and eventual victory - that followed.

The line was a throw-away intended as a dismissive to a reporter who was pestering Weinberg, trying to get him to confirm false rumors that the FSM was controlled by powerful Communists. The point was that the students were running things, young people, not a bunch of old men in the Kremlin, but an SF Chronicle reporter latched onto it and ran it as an attack on the American Establishment.

Other activists, including Jerry Rubin, Paul Krassner and Abbie Hoffman among many, in turn seized on it for just that purpose, using it repeatedly because it provoked such a virulent reaction by the Powerful. In that sense, I suppose, it could reasonably be called a "Yippie" catch-phrase.
<snip>

Posted by: Graham Firchlis | Nov 16, 2009 at 10:48 PM


http://www.bluestemprairie.com/bluestemprairie/2009/11/...
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:07 PM
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7. I used to say "Don't anybody over 30." Then I wised up. Now I say "Don't trust anybody under 60." nt
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:49 PM
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20. Me too Tater. n/t
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:09 PM
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8. Always loved that song.
Very appropriate. :hippie:
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ohheckyeah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:12 PM
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10. It brings back memories...
some good and some not so good.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:17 PM
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11. I'd Love To Change The World (Ten Years After)
Everywhere is freaks and hairies
Dykes and fairies, tell me where is sanity
Tax the rich, feed the poor
Till there are no rich no more?

I'd love to change the world
But I don't know what to do
So I'll leave it up to you

Population keeps on breeding
Nation bleeding, still more feeding economy

Life is funny, skies are sunny
Bees make honey, who needs money, Monopoly

I'd love to change the world
But I don't know what to do
So I'll leave it up to you

World pollution, there's no solution
Institution, electrocution
Just black and white, rich or poor
Them and us, stop the war

I'd love to change the world
But I don't know what to do
So I'll leave it up to you



:shrug:

Ironic, no?

:beer:

:smoke:

:hi:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:19 PM
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12. Also Appropriate !!!
:yourock:

:hi:

:kick:
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:24 PM
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14.  I don't know of any modern artists addressing political issues
in a way that the artists of the 60's did

(other than some country music "put a boot in their ass it's the American way" kinda stuff)

and IMO it is damaging to the left
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 09:02 PM
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23. There's plenty of them out there...
Every decade has them. When I was growing up, it was The Clash and The Dead Kennedys. There's plenty of bands round right now that speak about politics and make social commentary....

Plus, I find some of that 60's music sooooo bland and boring...
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:25 PM
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15. Alright Mo_Jo... Now You've Done It... Temptations... Ball Of Confusion...
The Temptations - Ball of Confusion

People movin' out
People movin' in
Why, because of the color of their skin
Run, run, run, but you sho' can't hide
An eye for an eye
A tooth for a tooth
Vote for me, and I'll set you free
Rap on brother, rap on
Well, the only person talkin'
'Bout love thy brother is the preacher
And it seems,
Nobody is interested in learnin'
But the teacher
Segregation, determination, demonstration,
Integration, aggravation,
Humiliation, obligation to our nation
Ball of Confusion
That's what the world is today

The sale of pills are at an all time high
Young folks walk around with
Their heads in the sky
Cities aflame in the summer time
And, the beat goes on

Air pollution, revolution, gun control,
Sound of soul
Shootin' rockets to the moon
Kids growin' up too soon
Politicians say more taxes will
Solve everything
And the band played on
So round 'n' round 'n' round we go
Where the world's headed, nobody knows
Just a Ball of Confusion
Oh yea, that's what the wold is today

Fear in the air, tension everywhere
Unemployment rising fast,
The Beatles' new record's a gas
And the only safe place to live is
On an indian reservation
And the band played on
Eve of destruction, tax deduction
City inspectors, bill collectors
Mod clothes in demand,
Population out of hand
Suicide, too many bills, hippies movin'
To the hills
People all over the world, are shoutin'
End the war
And the band played on.

:evilgrin:

:hi:
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:40 PM
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18. Motown's easy...
Lots of songs like that if you go there




What's Goin On

Marvin Gaye, Motown

Mother, mother
There's too many of you crying
Brother, brother, brother
There's far too many of you dying
You know we've got to find a way
To bring some lovin' here today - Ya

Father, father
We don't need to escalate
You see, war is not the answer
For only love can conquer hate
You know we've got to find a way
To bring some lovin' here today

Picket lines and picket signs
Don't punish me with brutality
Talk to me, so you can see
Oh, what's going on
What's going on
Ya, what's going on
Ah, what's going on

In the mean time
Right on, baby
Right on
Right on

Father, father, everybody thinks we're wrong
Oh, but who are they to judge us
Simply because our hair is long
Oh, you know we've got to find a way
To bring some understanding here today
Oh

Picket lines and picket signs
Don't punish me with brutality
Talk to me
So you can see
What's going on
Ya, what's going on
Tell me what's going on
I'll tell you what's going on - Uh
Right on baby
Right on baby
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 09:07 PM
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25. Ok... How 'Bout The The 70's San Fransisco Sound ???
Quicksilver Messenger Service - 'What About Me'

You poisoned my sweet water.
You cut down my green trees.
The food you fed my children
Was the cause of their disease.

My world is slowly fallin' down
And the airs not good to breathe.
And those of us who care enough,
We have to do something.......

(Chorus)
Oh.......oh What you gonna do about me?
Oh.......oh What you gonna do about me?

Your newspapers,
They just put you on.
They never tell you
The whole story.

They just put your
Young ideas down.
I was wonderin' could this be the end
Of your pride and glory?

(Chorus)

I work in your factory.
I study in your schools.
I fill your penitentiaries.
And your military too!

And I feel the future trembling,
As the word is passed around.
"If you stand up for what you do believe,
Be prepared to be shot down."

(Chorus)

And I feel like a stranger
In the land where I was born
And I live like an outlaw.
An' I'm always on the run..........................

An Im always getting busted
And I got to take a stand........
I believe the revolution
Must be mighty close at hand.......................

(Chorus)

I smoke marijuana
But I cant get behind your wars.
And most of what I do believe
Is against most of your laws

I'm a fugitive from injustice
But I'm goin' to be free.
Cause your rules and regulations
They dont do the thing for me

(Chorus)

And I feel like a stranger
In the land where I was born
And I live just like an outlaw.
An' I'm always on the run.

:evilgrin:

:hi:

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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 09:22 PM
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28. Wake up Everybody
Wake up everybody no more sleepin in bed
No more backward thinkin time for thinkin ahead
The world has changed so very much
From what it used to be so
there is so much hatred war an' poverty
Wake up all the teachers time to teach a new way
Maybe then they'll listen to whatcha have to say
Cause they're the ones who's coming up and the world is in their hands
when you teach the children teach em the very best you can.

Chorus
The world won't get no better if we just let it be
The world won't get no better we gotta change it yeah, just you and me.

Wake up all the doctors make the ol' people well
They're the ones who suffer an' who catch all the hell
But they don't have so very long before the Judgement Day
So won'tcha make them happy before they pass away.
Wake up all the builders time to build a new land
I know we can do it if we all lend a hand
The only thing we have to do is put it in our mind
Surely things will work out they do it every time.

Repeat Chorus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJgxJ6JrPkc
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:20 PM
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13. Such a great song.
I was thinking just the other day how relevant some of those old songs still are...sadly.
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reformist2 Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:41 PM
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19. Don't trust anyone worth more than $30 million?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:52 PM
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22. ya i lived that...not a whole lot has changed
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 09:05 PM
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24. I'm over 30 and I don't trust me.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 09:09 PM
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26. LOL !!! - I Hear Ya Man...
:rofl:

:hi:
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 09:15 PM
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27. LOL, "Trust Yourself" ...
Edited on Sat Dec-11-10 09:16 PM by pinboy3niner
Trust Yourself by Dob Dylan

Trust yourself
Trust yourself to do the things that only you know best
Trust yourself
Trust yourself to do whats right and not be second-guessed
Dont trust me to show you beauty
When beauty may only turn to rust
If you need somebody you can trust, trust yourself

Trust yourself
Trust yourself to know the way that will prove true in the end
Trust yourself
Trust yourself to find the path where there is no if and when
Dont trust me to show you the truth
When the truth may only be ashes and dust
If you want somebody you can trust, trust yourself

Well, youre on your own, you always were
In a land of wolves and thieves
Dont put your hope in ungodly man
Or be a slave to what somebody else believes

Trust yourself
And you wont be disappointed when vain people let you down
Trust yourself
And look not for answers where no answers can be found
Dont trust me to show you love
When my love may be only lust
If you want somebody you can trust, trust yourself


Bob Dylan - Trust Yourself (3:37)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnhxeXr_HTs

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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 11:23 PM
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29. Sheesh & kids think they have a commodity in todays world....
Edited on Sat Dec-11-10 11:32 PM by Historic NY
they forget, kids get old. I've been hearing a lots of the old songs.

http://hypem.com/track/966927
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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 11:23 PM
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30. I don't trust anyone under 30 either. nt
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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 11:27 PM
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31. There's some great shit comin' out today, too
Want to see a modern-day Woodie Guthrie and her fascist-killing instrument? Check out Iris Dement singing "Wasteland of the Free" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhgb9hYjX3g

Want to see some excellent country-roots-rock blastin' head-on at The Man on a little local stage? Check out Kevin Welch doing "Everybody's Workin' For the Man"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74v9QhhoJPU
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 11:49 PM
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32. Living in a Wasteland of the Free...nice spot on.
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retread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 04:03 PM
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33. "She was common, flirty, she looked about thirty." Damn! That old? n/t
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