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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 07:47 PM
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I could really use a good poetry thread tonight to stay my mind on.
Something beautiful. Is anyone up for it?



Choose Something Like a Star

by Robert Frost - 1947

O Star (the fairest one in sight),
We grant your loftiness the right
To some obscurity of cloud --
It will not do to say of night,
Since dark is what brings out your light.
Some mystery becomes the proud.
But to be wholly taciturn
In your reserve is not allowed.

Say something to us we can learn
By heart and when alone repeat.
Say something! And it says "I burn."
But say with what degree of heat.
Talk Fahrenheit, talk Centigrade.
Use language we can comprehend.
Tell us what elements you blend.

It gives us strangely little aid,
But does tell something in the end.
And steadfast as Keats' Eremite,
Not even stooping from its sphere,
It asks a little of us here.
It asks of us a certain height,
So when at times the mob is swayed
To carry praise or blame too far,
We may choose something like a star
To stay our minds on and be staid.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 08:34 PM
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1. This OK?
THE SUN just touched the morning;
The morning, happy thing,
Supposed that he had come to dwell,
And life would be all spring.

She felt herself supremer,—
A raised, ethereal thing;
Henceforth for her what holiday!
Meanwhile, her wheeling king

Trailed slow along the orchards
His haughty, spangled hems,
Leaving a new necessity,—
The want of diadems!

The morning fluttered, staggered,
Felt feebly for her crown,—
Her unanointed forehead
Henceforth her only one.

Emily Dickinson


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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 11:28 PM
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11. I spent a year with her and inflicted a senior thesis on her work.
lol

:hi:
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 08:11 AM
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21. EMILY???
Went to her Garden, in NYC.

Thesis, eh? Interesting. What was it???
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 08:41 PM
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2. The Windhover by Gerard Manley Hopkins
Edited on Thu Sep-23-10 08:41 PM by Gormy Cuss
The Windhover


I CAUGHT this morning morning’s minion, king-
dom of daylight’s dauphin, dapple-dawn-drawn Falcon, in his riding
Of the rolling level underneath him steady air, and striding
High there, how he rung upon the rein of a wimpling wing
In his ecstasy! then off, off forth on swing,
As a skate’s heel sweeps smooth on a bow-bend: the hurl and gliding
Rebuffed the big wind. My heart in hiding
Stirred for a bird,—the achieve of; the mastery of the thing!

Brute beauty and valour and act, oh, air, pride, plume, here
Buckle! AND the fire that breaks from thee then, a billion
Times told lovelier, more dangerous, O my chevalier!

No wonder of it: shéer plód makes plough down sillion
Shine, and blue-bleak embers, ah my dear,
Fall, gall themselves, and gash gold-vermillion.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 08:43 PM
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3. Thanks, Gormy; was thinking of this!
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 10:25 PM
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6. It was the first poem that sprung to mind when I read this thread.
That opening stanza is so wonderful.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 10:49 PM
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7. Just flows!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 11:29 PM
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12. Perfect!
:applause:
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nolabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 08:45 PM
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4. Here's a very serious one, but a favorite.
Even as an athiest, I find this idea incredibly powerful.


A Brief for the Defense

Sorrow everywhere. Slaughter everywhere. If babies
are not starving someplace, they are starving
somewhere else. With flies in their nostrils.
But we enjoy our lives because that's what God wants.
Otherwise the mornings before summer dawn would not
be made so fine. The Bengal tiger would not
be fashioned so miraculously well. The poor women
at the fountain are laughing together between
the suffering they have known and the awfulness
in their future, smiling and laughing while somebody
in the village is very sick. There is laughter
every day in the terrible streets of Calcutta,
and the women laugh in the cages of Bombay.
If we deny our happiness, resist our satisfaction,
we lessen the importance of their deprivation.
We must risk delight. We can do without pleasure,
but not delight. Not enjoyment. We must have
the stubbornness to accept our gladness in the ruthless
furnace of this world. To make injustice the only
measure of our attention is to praise the Devil.
If the locomotive of the Lord runs us down,
we should give thanks that the end had magnitude.
We must admit there will be music despite everything.
We stand at the prow again of a small ship
anchored late at night in the tiny port
looking over to the sleeping island: the waterfront
is three shuttered cafés and one naked light burning.
To hear the faint sound of oars in the silence as a rowboat
comes slowly out and then goes back is truly worth
all the years of sorrow that are to come.

Jack Gilbert
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 11:33 PM
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13. "that the end had magnitude" -- he's very good.
Thanks.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 09:23 PM
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5. Ode to Autumn - John Keats
Season of mists and mellow fruitfulness,
Close bosom-friend of the maturing sun;
Conspiring with him how to load and bless
With fruit the vines that round the thatch-eaves run;
To bend with apples the moss'd cottage-trees,
And fill all fruit with ripeness to the core;
To swell the gourd, and plump the hazel shells
With a sweet kernel; to set budding more,
And still more, later flowers for the bees,
Until they think warm days will never cease;
For Summer has o'erbrimm'd their clammy cells.

Who hath not seen thee oft amid thy store?
Sometimes whoever seeks abroad may find
Thee sitting careless on a granary floor,
Thy hair soft-lifted by the winnowing wind;
Or on a half-reap'd furrow sound asleep,
Drowsed with the fume of poppies, while thy hook
Spares the next swath and all its twinèd flowers:
And sometimes like a gleaner thou dost keep
Steady thy laden head across a brook;
Or by a cyder-press, with patient look,
Thou watchest the last oozings, hours by hours.

Where are the songs of Spring? Ay, where are they?
Think not of them, thou hast thy music too,—
While barrèd clouds bloom the soft-dying day
And touch the stubble-plains with rosy hue;
Then in a wailful choir the small gnats mourn
Among the river-sallows, borne aloft
Or sinking as the light wind lives or dies;
And full-grown lambs loud bleat from hilly bourn;
Hedge-crickets sing; and now with treble soft
The redbreast whistles from a garden-croft;
And gathering swallows twitter in the skies.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 11:06 PM
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8. Oh. Famous, real ones. I thought one of our own.
I have heard knell
a shipboard bell
the hours on a glass blue sea.

And I have heard yell
sailors, swabbies, and swells
with pitching 'twix fish and fowl free.

Oft' have had quelled
my sun-sweat smell
by salt spray, bare burned back to lee.

Have let alone dwell
a green-eyed belle
as I skipped to my 'mates with glee.

For I have heard knell
a shipboard bell
the hours on a glass blue sea.

**************************

Or, Cotton-picking According to
G.M. HOPKINS, S.J.

You, who have not known my love, suspect
Yourself internal machine picked, racked, pressed,
And gin lint baled, stacked on a flatbed truck.

Mais non. I, the plow-shear-share, care,
Care you to ridge heave flowers white green,
The pure plugs pulled-lf pop! Plop-pop! Pop!

Sigh breathing, my wide arms face dow, sinking I
Trailer fenced, ball tossed, roll over and dig deep,
Sof on soft, fill full harvest daubed.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 02:03 PM
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23. You're not going to believe this but I once had a boss, Gerard Manley,
who claimed he was a descendant. He was hyper enough for me to wonder if "sprung rhythm" was actually genetic. :)
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 03:21 PM
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24. Whew, I thought no-reply here meant I was barging in. That said, your Brush-with-Greatness pattern
gives me hope that you will someday be telling about ME!1 :hi:
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 11:09 PM
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9. Nice. Is freestyle ok? I'm just going to say it as it comes to me...
One blue

fatal cord

relapse forever

tomorrow's old
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Petrushka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 11:22 PM
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10. 2 by Czeslaw Milosz --- "Love" and "Late Ripeness"
Love

Love means to learn to look at yourself
The way one looks at distant things
For you are only one thing among many.
And whoever sees that way heals his heart,
Without knowing it, from various ills—
A bird and a tree say to him: Friend.

Then he wants to use himself and things
So that they stand in the glow of ripeness.
It doesn’t matter whether he knows what he serves:
Who serves best doesn’t always understand.

. . . . . . . . . .---Czeslaw Milosz



Late Ripeness

Not soon, as late as the approach of my ninetieth year,
I felt a door opening in me and I entered
the clarity of early morning.

One after another my former lives were departing,
like ships, together with their sorrow.

And the countries, cities, gardens, the bays of seas
assigned to my brush came closer,
ready now to be described better than they were before.

I was not separated from people,
grief and pity joined us.
We forget - I kept saying - that we are all children of the King.

For where we come from there is no division
into Yes and No, into is, was, and will be.

We were miserable, we used no more than a hundredth part
of the gift we received for our long journey.

Moments from yesterday and from centuries ago -
a sword blow, the painting of eyelashes before a mirror
of polished metal, a lethal musket shot, a caravel
staving its hull against a reef - they dwell in us,
waiting for a fulfillment.

I knew, always, that I would be a worker in the vineyard,
as are all men and women living at the same time,
whether they are aware of it or not.

. . . . . . . . . . ---Czeslaw Milosz


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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 11:37 PM
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14. Echoes of Milton and then Tennyson.
Edited on Thu Sep-23-10 11:37 PM by EFerrari
Cool. :)
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nolabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 11:38 PM
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15. One of my favorite poets. Thank you.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 11:45 PM
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16. Street Song Thom Gunn
I am too young to grow a beard
But yes man it was me you heard
In dirty denim and dark glasses.
I look through everyone who passes
But ask him clear, I do not plead,
Keys Lids acid and speed.

My grass is not oregano.
Some of it grew in Mexico.
You cannot guess the weed I hold,
Clara Green, Acapulco Gold,
Panama Red, you name it man,
Best on the street since I began.

My methedrine, my double-sun,
Will give you too lives in your one,
Five days of power before you crash.
At which time use these lumps of hash
- They burn so sweet, they smoke so smooth,
They make you sharper while they soothe.

Now here, the best I've got to show,
Made by a righteous cat I know.
Pure acid - it will scrape your brain,
And make it something else again.
Call it heaven, call it hell,
Join me and see the world I sell.

Join me, and I will take you there,
Your head will cut out from your hair
Into whichever self you choose.
With Midday Mick man you can't lose,
I'll get you anything you need.
Keys lids acid and speed.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 11:50 PM
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17. Thirteen Ways of Looking at a Blackbird - Wallace Stevens
I
Among twenty snowy mountains,
The only moving thing
Was the eye of the blackbird.

II
I was of three minds,
Like a tree
In which there are three blackbirds.

III
The blackbird whirled in the autumn winds.
It was a small part of the pantomime.

IV
A man and a woman
Are one.
A man and a woman and a blackbird
Are one.

V
I do not know which to prefer,
The beauty of inflections
Or the beauty of innuendoes,
The blackbird whistling
Or just after.

VI
Icicles filled the long window
With barbaric glass.
The shadow of the blackbird
Crossed it, to and fro.
The mood
Traced in the shadow
An indecipherable cause.

VII
O thin men of Haddam,
Why do you imagine golden birds?
Do you not see how the blackbird
Walks around the feet
Of the women about you?

VIII
I know noble accents
And lucid, inescapable rhythms;
But I know, too,
That the blackbird is involved
In what I know.

IX
When the blackbird flew out of sight,
It marked the edge
Of one of many circles.

X
At the sight of blackbirds
Flying in a green light,
Even the bawds of euphony
Would cry out sharply.

XI
He rode over Connecticut
In a glass coach.
Once, a fear pierced him,
In that he mistook
The shadow of his equipage
For blackbirds.

XII
The river is moving.
The blackbird must be flying.

XIII
It was evening all afternoon.
It was snowing
And it was going to snow.
The blackbird sat
In the cedar-limbs.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 12:35 AM
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19. I love that one. Before Stevens, Yeats was my favorite.
The Circus Animal's Desertion


I

I sought a theme and sought for it in vain,
I sought it daily for six weeks or so.
Maybe at last, being but a broken man,
I must be satisfied with my heart, although
Winter and summer till old age began
My circus animals were all on show,
Those stilted boys, that burnished chariot,
Lion and woman and the Lord knows what.

II

What can I but enumerate old themes?
First that sea-rider Oisin led by the nose
Through three enchanted islands, allegorical dreams,
Vain gaiety, vain battle, vain repose,
Themes of the embittered heart, or so it seems,
That might adorn old songs or courtly shows;
But what cared I that set him on to ride,
I, starved for the bosom of his faery bride?

And then a counter-truth filled out its play,
'The Countess Cathleen' was the name I gave it;
She, pity-crazed, had given her soul away,
But masterful Heaven had intetvened to save it.
I thought my dear must her own soul destroy,
So did fanaticism and hate enslave it,
And this brought forth a dream and soon enough
This dream itself had all my thought and love.

And when the Fool and Blind Man stole the bread
Cuchulain fought the ungovernable sea;
Heart-mysteries there, and yet when all is said
It was the dream itself enchanted me:
Character isolated by a deed
To engross the present and dominate memory.
players and painted stage took all my love,
And not those things that they were emblems of.

III

Those masterful images because complete
Grew in pure mind, but out of what began?
A mound of refuse or the sweepings of a street,
Old kettles, old bottles, and a broken can,
Old iron, old bones, old rags, that raving slut
Who keeps the till. Now that my ladder's gone,
I must lie down where all the ladders start
In the foul rag-and-bone shop of the heart.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 12:26 AM
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18. I knew a Woman Roethke
I Knew a Woman

I knew a woman, lovely in her bones,
When small birds sighed, she would sigh back at them;
Ah, when she moved, she moved more ways than one:
The shapes a bright container can contain!
Of her choice virtues only gods should speak,
Or English poets who grew up on Greek
(I'd have them sing in chorus, cheek to cheek.)

How well her wishes went! She stroked my chin,
She taught me Turn, and Counter-turn, and stand;
She taught me Touch, that undulant white skin:
I nibbled meekly from her proffered hand;
She was the sickle; I, poor I, the rake,
Coming behind her for her pretty sake
(But what prodigious mowing did we make.)

Love likes a gander, and adores a goose:
Her full lips pursed, the errant note to seize;
She played it quick, she played it light and loose;
My eyes, they dazzled at her flowing knees;
Her several parts could keep a pure repose,
Or one hip quiver with a mobile nose
(She moved in circles, and those circles moved.)

Let seed be grass, and grass turn into hay:
I'm martyr to a motion not my own;
What's freedom for? To know eternity.
I swear she cast a shadow white as stone.
But who would count eternity in days?
These old bones live to learn her wanton ways:
(I measure time by how a body sways.)
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 02:21 AM
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20. Accountability
FOLKS ain't got no right to censuah othah folks about dey habits;
Him dat giv' de squir'ls de bushtails made de bobtails fu' de rabbits.
Him dat built de gread big mountains hollered out de little valleys,
Him dat made de streets an' driveways wasn't shamed to make de alleys.

We is all constructed diff'ent, d'ain't no two of us de same;
We cain't he'p ouah likes an' dislikes, ef we'se bad we ain't to blame.
Ef we'se good, we need n't show off, case you bet it ain't ouah doin'
We gits into su'ttain channels dat we jes' cain't he'p pu'suin'.

But we all fits into places dat no othah ones could fill,
An' we does the things we has to, big er little, good er ill.
John cain't tek de place o' Henry, Su an' Sally ain't alike;
Bass ain't nuthin' like a suckah, chub ain't nuthin' like a pike.

When you come to think about it, how it's all planned out it's splendid.
Nuthin's done er evah happens, 'dout hit's somefin' dat's intended;
Don't keer whut you does, you has to, an' hit sholy beats de dickens,--
Viney, go put on de kittle, I got one o' mastah's chickens.

-- Paul Laurence Dunbar


And, as a bonus, my all-time favorite poem (which I've posted here before, I think):

Continent's End

At the equinox when the earth was veiled in a late rain,
wreathed with wet poppies, waiting spring,
The ocean swelled for a far storm and beat its boundary,
the ground-swell shook the beds of granite.

I gazing at the boundaries of granite and spray, the
established sea-marks, felt behind me
Mountain and plain, the immense breadth of the continent,
before me the mass and doubled stretch of water.

I said: You yoke the Aleutian seal-rocks with the lava
and coral sowings that flower the south,
Over your flood the life that sought the sunrise faces
ours that has followed the evening star.

The long migrations meet across you and it is nothing
to you, you have forgotten us, mother.
You were much younger when we crawled out of the womb
and lay in the sun's eye on the tideline.

It was long and long ago; we have grown proud since then
and you have grown bitter; life retains
Your mobile soft unquiet strength; and envies hardness,
the insolent quietness of stone.

The tides are in our veins, we still mirror the stars,
life is your child, but there is in me
Older and harder than life and more impartial, the eye
that watched before there was an ocean.

That watched you fill your beds out of the condensation
of thin vapor and watched you change them,
That saw you soft and violent wear your boundaries down,
eat rock, shift places with the continents.

Mother, though my song's measure is like your surf-beat's
ancient rhythm I never learned it of you.
Before there was any water there were tides of fire, both
our tones flow from the older fountain.

-- Robinson Jeffers
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 02:00 PM
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22. Jeffers has one of those voices so distinct, you can get him in three notes.
The way he does physicality so quietly has always interested me. I think this was the first poem that made poetry seem tactile, really dimensional and immediate to me.

The Dance by William Carlos Williams

In Breughel's great picture, The Kermess,
the dancers go round, they go round and
around, the squeal and the blare and the
tweedle of bagpipes, a bugle and fiddles
tipping their bellies, (round as the thick-
sided glasses whose wash they impound)
their hips and their bellies off balance
to turn them. Kicking and rolling about
the Fair Grounds, swinging their butts, those
shanks must be sound to bear up under such
rollicking measures, prance as they dance
in Breughel's great picture, The Kermess

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KatyaR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 03:29 PM
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25. Oh, that Jeffers poem made me cry.
I need to read more of his poetry! Thank you for that....
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