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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 11:23 AM
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The Windmills of your Mind
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 12:45 PM
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1. goddammit.
I don't like clicking a link and finding that it's just a video that I can't watch at the office or don't want to take the time to watch. This is like the 4th one in 3 or 4 minutes.
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Tikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 02:24 PM
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2. Amazing....
Sounds so grand that way.


Tikki
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Wolf Frankula Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 09:15 PM
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3. Take that Double Dutch Propaganda elsewhere, skeezix
There are no windmills in OUR minds!

No-prize for the person who can guess the origin.

Wolf
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 01:30 AM
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4. What was the guy that kept attacking windmills thinking they were monsters.
Edited on Tue Aug-03-10 02:00 AM by RandomThoughts
I once thought it could be just in a persons mind, to check if that was the case, I looked around to see if there were things elsewhere also. And if correlations could be found, then the idea that it is in a persons mind is not true, unless something could be many places at once.

heh, in ones own mind, that is a common concept in some doctrines, and some truth to it, in that the perceptions people have can be modified by things in them, but not everything is perception, or there would be no consistency in perception. Part of information actually is from external stimuli, and some from perspective.

Expressing some thoughts or venting maybe, here as good a place as any.

Most people really don't realize they read into most everything they hear or see, until they stop seeing or hearing anything but only replaying in their mind what they already think.

Anyways, I been thinking on some things. I think there have been some good effects, and some bad, and also correlations are matching up with some consistency to further crystallize thoughts. Although there also has been some bad things, the effects seem to be mostly people taking things for their own goals not for goals that make better sense.

On the note of my own goals, many have come along pretty well, but some have not, been thinking on what can be done about that. Either filters are hindering, or maybe it is perceptions in peoples minds. On personal goals, I have not figured out the material stuff, and that needs to be fixed. Have not figured how to achieve that, and since I am not able to judge who is the problem in blocking such things, might have to return to the boom stick. How many people think they know where the problem is, LOL, that might be the problem, that may be a place to start.

But what method, what can be done. Thinking about that.

On a side note, I made some comments on Terrinito's films and the violence in them, I been rethinking about his films, seeing what else is also there. An interesting scene from Pulp Fiction.

Pulp Fiction Clips Really interesting thoughts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6csp2fZt2E


Thunderstruck AC/DC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvoeeq-BH4w

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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 02:36 AM
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5. Don Quixote
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Dr Morbius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 07:17 AM
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6. As noted above, 'twas Don Quixote. But he didn't think they were monsters, exactly.
He thought they were dragons. The distinction is kind of important because dragons are, apart from anything else, ideal targets for a knight. So if a man wants to make of himself a knight, what better way than slaying dragons?

As to your larger point, philosophers and logicians speak in terms, and define the meanings of those terms separating the intrinsic meaning of the term from the extrinsic. A broom, for example, is an ancient implement, a stick with straw at the end. That's the essence of what a broom is from an intrinsic point of view. A broom is also a symbol of cleanliness and of servitude and of witchcraft. Those are external, culturally applied meanings. The meaning of the term "broom," then, to be properly understood, must be evaluated to determine what meaning it has on its own and what meaning we apply to it based on our culture or ethos. This applies to everything, including - especially! - perception. "Most people", to borrow your phrase, do not think about how they think. Few Americans give any thought to thought itself. What can be done? Change that. Teach our kids the rudiments of rational thinking in our schools at an early age, and stay with it, year by year.

Why do you suspect people "replay in their mind" what they're thinking? Because we're a TV culture. We grew up with reruns. Imagine what life would be like when you couldn't see things over and over again, and you had to use your memory to appreciate things. Then recognize the ability to remember must atrophy if it isn't used.

Or so go my thoughts.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 09:13 PM
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7. You are the first person to post on the idea of connecting the 'boom' to 'broom'
Edited on Tue Aug-03-10 09:13 PM by RandomThoughts
I also saw that possible connection. However I like the concept of cleaning not the ideas of witchcraft. Although I find it interesting that you saw that connection.

It also connects in with flying that also has dual meaning, either being seen and high above the frey, or as connected with the broom stick.

Flying has many meanings also, there is the story of the competition where one guy flew, and another made him fall, but their is also the battles in the air. Many meanings to much of those words, 'boom' 'fly' should add in 'jump' and the whole concept of spirit. Each has both good and bad interpretations, and according to most texts, each can have both good and bad effects. However the bad stuff can not be used for good, and good used for bad in most views, hence the reason for destruction of ring to control rings of greed. But again that is a long story.

As far as dragons, I agree they have many meanings, in Asian culture they are viewed much differently then by some other cultures, so I think it is best to think in terms of there being both bad and good dragons, since they are a representation anyways.

I think I agree with your post, I especially like the comment on memory, the ideas of keeping ones memories versus having them changed is a really deep one. And difficult, I find that some of the deepest meaning in Fahrenheit 451, and really appreciate my father giving me so many books to read over the years, it gives me a memory context on thoughts to find the differences in things. From those differences many intents to create the changes in memory can be seen.
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