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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-03-10 11:20 PM
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Anyone else experience a complete failure of Frontline Plus for their cats?
I put a full dose on each cat about 2 weeks ago and the poor kitties are really struggling. Fleas fleas fleas. As if the Frontline Plus had no effect -- the last time I used it, the cats were fine. This time - about 5-6 weeks after the last Frontline dose, the cats still have fleas, and not just one or two. We had a really very hot few days here, and I know heat can make things worse - but not if Frontline is in the cat's system, right?

I have also investigated Revolution, but that product doesn't seem to protect against ticks, unfortunately.

Help!

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denbot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-04-10 12:01 AM
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1. We use Advantage.
Not sure why, wiser people then me make those decisions.
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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-04-10 11:35 AM
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6. I used Advantage for a while ... but it doesn't kill flea eggs..
so I switched to Frontline last time and it worked really well.

This time, almost no help. And two of my babies get pretty bad miliary dermatitis, poor things. Little red itchy spots around their necks and base of tail / spine from flea bites and irritation.

I'm pissed.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-04-10 12:10 AM
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2. fleas are very, very bad this year
:(
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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-04-10 11:35 AM
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7. I heard that last year ---
damn :(
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PJPhreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-04-10 12:16 AM
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3. Try Swappin Brands,
back and forth...Front line tends to lose its effectiveness with continual use...try Bio-Spot one month,Frontline Plus the next and so on.
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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-04-10 11:49 AM
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8. hm. have never heard of Bio-spot. I'll investigate
I'm sure the fleas are evolving into super-fleas (hideous thought) and becoming more resistant. Sigh.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-04-10 01:14 AM
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4. Someone told me that Advantage and Fronline are not as effective as they used to be.
I haven't verified this myself with my own cat, nor have I read any official statement or heard any veterinarian say it. Just someone who has cats told me that fleas are starting to build up an immunity to these products. This is just hearsay though, I have no evidence to back it up.
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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-04-10 11:50 AM
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9. I have heard that as well ...
I have six cats, and three of them are just miserable - the other three are just uncomfortable.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-04-10 01:29 AM
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5. All three of our kids are indoor kitties, so I and neither can Sonia help you.
We all are prepping for AC and 100 degree temps.

:hi:

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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-04-10 11:52 AM
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10. hi there!
Scritch-scratches to Sonia! Ivan, the big ole' (former) tomcat we adopted years ago after he blew onto our back porch after hurricane Ivan, is miserable if he doesn't get to lounge in the front yard every day. If I could convince him that inside was better, I would.
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siligut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-04-10 12:04 PM
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11. Until then, get a flea comb
A flea comb has teeth that are very close together and will trap the fleas. You can then smash them, they pop, or drown them. Cats can become anemic from fleas, and my cats love to be combed, so it is a win win.
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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-04-10 12:41 PM
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15. have one. but with six cats, if I can't get some other sort of
relief, flea squishing would be a full-time job. :(

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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-04-10 12:09 PM
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12. i'm hearing the same thing re: dogs.
the thing is frontline kills ticks as well -- and this is tick country.

i am concerned.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-04-10 12:12 PM
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13. I just put Fronline on my dogs
a couple weeks ago, they're fine..not a flea on them.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-04-10 12:17 PM
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14. i've been treating some friends dogs who had bad hot spots
they swore there were no fleas -- using front line.
well when i took the dog in there were a ton of fleas.
and the hot spots were started by the fleas.

so a shave job, anti-biotics, hot spot treatment, and a flea pill called comfortis.
dr wants the dog back on frontline in a couple of months because of ticks.

i'm certainly glad you're have success -- i'm hoping for better success with mu friends dog.
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Moondog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-04-10 01:22 PM
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16. Well, two things.
Edited on Sun Jul-04-10 01:28 PM by Moondog
First, you really need to use it every 30 days.

And second, is it possible your cats are getting re-infested due to fleas in the environment? Maybe a colony of fleas have set up housekeeping in a carpet, or a kitty bed, or something like that. Or, if they go outside, maybe they are picking up more outside. But if you have some kind of inside source, you need to attend to those fleas too, otherwise you'll have this cycle going on for quite a while.

On edit: Have been using Frontline Plus quite successfully for a few years now on the Florida Gulf Coast for a longhair and a shorthair. Have used both Revolution and Advantage further back in time. They all seem to work well enough, but the cats seem to tolerate the Frontline Plus a little better.
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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-04-10 02:21 PM
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17. No carpet in the house (thank goodness - I hate carpet) ... and
I put every item of cat bedding through the wash, with lysol added, immediately after I put the Frontline on the cats -- our one cat who goes out during the day just hangs out on the porch, mostly. He doesn't seem to travel to high-flea areas, but he's dosed just like all the other kids are.

Sigh.

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gvstn Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-04-10 08:50 PM
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18. I feel your pain
I used to dog-sit my brother's dog every year for 3 weeks in July. He had the worst fleas imaginable. Listening to him scratch was like fingernails on a chalkboard. I took him to the vet got Frontline, bombed the house (twice during the 3 weeks, bathed him almost daily and still barely a dent. I knew my brother would never bother continuing the clean-up and subsequent doses of Frontline but I really thought I should have been able to at least get things under control in three weeks. No such luck. Fleas can be persistent.

My indoor cat has fleas this year. He has a few bumps around his neck from scratching. I just got Advantage and will apply it as soon as I can wrestle him into position to apply without hitting a raw spot. My vet had recommended Advantage because he is indoor and thus probably won't be exposed to ticks so we might as well use as few chemicals as possible. My brief internet research led me to believe Bio-Spot may not be worth the money savings over Advantage. Neither Bio-Spot or Advantage will guard against ticks but it may be worth chancing it for a month to see if they control the fleas better.

Good Luck!
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-04-10 09:01 PM
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19. Worse than complete failure.
Edited on Sun Jul-04-10 09:02 PM by hippywife
We have a bad flea infestation in the house right now that we're trying to resolve with food grade DE and boric acid. We put frontline on both of the kitties and one is fine, no problem and very few fleas on her. The other had a weird reaction. She lost fur around her neck in spots and has all kinds of crusties around her neck. This all developed within a couple of days of application. I grabbed her and bathed her and she's doing much better now. Using the flea comb on her instead now.

The odd thing is that both of them had the frontline last year and did just fine. No adverse reactions at all.

Both of the dogs stay outside and have gotten the frontline and preventic collars and are doing fine.

We live in the country and the fleas have just been horrible here this year. No concrete driveway or cement sidewalks so we have to walk through the grass as we come and go. Hubs keeps the grass down around the house and the areas we have to walk through. We have no carpet, either. Seems like all we can do is just try to stay even with them at this point until winter arrives.

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gvstn Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 09:34 PM
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23. Finally, dosed my indoor cat last night
Advantage seems to be working for him. I found 15 dead fleas around his favorite places. I don't know how he gets fleas and I couldn't see any when I searched him but I know the symptoms.

He probably didn't have a bad infestation by most people standards but it was the worst I have seen him as far as raw spots where he has been scratching around his neck. I know 1 day is not much of a test but Advantage seems to work just like it always has.

So my score using Advantage on the cat and Frontline on the dog is is Advantage=5 for 5 Frontline=0 for 2.
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 09:06 AM
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20. We finally got a pill for Gizmo
two weeks ago. It doesn't kill the eggs but did the live ones. We then bathed him, thoroughly combed him, and got him a flea collar. STILL some fleas but will use the Frontline stuff on the nape of his neck next week. Hopefully, we have hit all bases. Good luck!
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 10:30 AM
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21. On a related subject
We just discovered that they make a topical wormer now. It was a great relief to not have to shove pills into the kitties.

We've had good luck with both Advantage and Frontline. Hope you find a solution to your infestation.

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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 12:56 PM
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22. I have.
During a SFSPCA vet visit, my Frontlined cat still had fleas and the vet mentioned that they were seeing a lot of prodict failure. She did no tknow the hows/whys just that it was happening.
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sammytko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 10:43 PM
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24. Been working great for my cats and dogs. Have to use it monthly!
I have 7 dogs and 3 cats. The cats do not go outside, but their brothers the dogs do, so they can bring in fleas and ticks. Three of the big dogs are outside 75% of the time. Zero fleas or ticks on them. The small dogs have had to use Confortis and Frontline. Don't know why Frontline alone wasn't working on them to get rid of the fleas.

We have feral cats also and still no flea problem out in the yard. Don't know why, just glad. Used to have huge tick and flea problem til I faithfully started using the Frontline.
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