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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:22 AM
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Do you think men would actually lie to women to obtain sex?
It's hard for me to believe, but I keep hearing about things like this....I have never done it myself, of course...

Oh, and none of those other women even meant anything to me, really.....Honestly....


:evilgrin:

mark
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pink-o Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:55 AM
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1. Do you think women would actually lie to men and tell them the sex is good?
Luckily, most women don't have to wait too long for bad sex to be over!
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:56 AM
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2. Do you come here often? nt
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pink-o Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:58 AM
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3. Yes. Sagittarius.
:evilgrin:
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 03:18 PM
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33. I KNEW it!


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(I'm a Leo.)


mark
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pink-o Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 02:43 PM
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73. So I'm fighting fire with fire?
Not that I'm fighting. Old Mark, call me Old Pink-O, we're both too ancient to get riled up, I think.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 10:23 AM
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19. Bwahahahahahahahah!
Nice one.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 10:27 AM
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21. Why do women lie about having an orgasm?
Because they think we care.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 10:35 AM
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22. well, maybe that attitude is why a woman would have to lie to you. hm. nt
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 12:34 PM
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46. oh, you do care
yup, you do
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 12:37 PM
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48. this is pure brilliance
thank you
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pink-o Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 02:41 PM
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72. My pleasure
...which is what it's all about, right?:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:59 AM
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4. "Everyone lies about sex"-R.A.H.
Edited on Thu Jun-03-10 07:05 AM by hobbit709
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 07:03 AM
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5. Men and women both lie for sex sometimes
And sometimes they do it standing up.


What's the problem?
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 04:40 PM
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42. The irony is that if they don't lie, they don't hook up
But if they were honest, they'd realize they were both after the same thing...
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 08:31 AM
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6. The greatest pick-up from the greatest movie
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 04:53 PM
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43. I thought the link would be this
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 08:35 AM
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7. No.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 08:38 AM
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8. me either. Every man I have ever encountered has always told me the truth.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 03:19 PM
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34. Both of them.....nt
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 08:15 AM
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44. there you go again....
telling the truth.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 08:50 AM
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9. Naw. nt
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 08:50 AM
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10. is water wet?
:P
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 08:53 AM
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11. some people (both genders) lie. some dont. some people have integrity,
some dont

some people have character, some dont.

some men lie, some dont

but the men that lie???? are pretty obvious and if the woman wants, can easily see.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 09:00 AM
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12. Good gravy, of course I've done that. Not that I'd ever admit to it now.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 09:04 AM
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13. I don't think that's unique to men. For example, there's a LOT I would do to obtain
a ukulele.
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 10:00 AM
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15. Speaking of Ukulele's
do you about Victoria Vox? http://www.victoriavox.com/
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 10:09 AM
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16. Is that some sort of
new sexual maneuver? or, do you really mean the little string instrument that Don Ho (and others) play?

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 10:26 AM
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20. Is that what the kids are calling it these days?
:P
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 12:25 PM
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29. My friend and I are 47!
Not exactly kids, smarty pants! :spank:
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 09:07 AM
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14. Isn't there the "Rule of 3" about sex?
If a man says he has slept with 15 women, you can divide that number by 3 and 5 is the real number...

Similarly, if a woman says she has slept with 5 guys, you can multiply it by 3 and it's really 15.

That says more about our society & culture, though.

In my experience, though, a lot of people lie to get sex, it just depends on the level of the lie. Saying you're single when you're really married is a big one, while saying you enjoyed the chick flick you just went to with her is pretty much expected, and fairly small.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 10:17 AM
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18. i love this. i have never heard this
but it is so right on. and yes.... saying more about our culture. thanks. gonna use this.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 11:03 AM
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25. I can't remember where I heard it
but, I remember telling my ex-wife and I both telling each other we had been with six partners before, when it was really two with me, and it was about 3x that for her. Then, I heard the rule of three a few years later when I went on a dating spree between marriages and said, "aha, it was true with me"



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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 10:12 AM
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17. Do you think if a bear is in the woods it will take a shit?
Nuff said!
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dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 10:50 AM
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23. It wouldn't unless it had that extra strong toliet paper.
Or at least that's what my television machine told me. :crazy:
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dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 10:54 AM
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24. I really don't think I would.
What would there be to lie about? Why would I want to have sex with someone that only thought she wanted me because of some stupid lie I told? I hope I would be upfront about anything that mattered.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 11:03 AM
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26. *sigh*. a man not playing the game, lol. answering in the manner that is expected of him
even though it makes males look so bad.

many men wouldnt lie. because they are not liars. because they dont need to lie. because it doesnt work anyway. because, because....

kinda like the post above.... divide by three number of sexual experiences of men to get truth. multiply by three the number of sexual experiences for women. we are conditioned in roles whether a reality or not. not all have the guts to throw off the oppression of conditioning. much easier once one does.

so much better just not playing the game. maybe, hopefully, that comes with maturity.

when i was younger i didnt want relationship, just a one nighter. i would tell the guy, friend or sex. choice. of course i always got the sex. but then they always came back wanting relationship. they didnt believe me. they thought i was lying. cause of course a female wants relationship. it is the man that fights it.

funny world we live.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 02:50 PM
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31. "friend or sex. choice."
Why can't it be both?

I've gotten the "I don't want to ruin our friendship" line from a few guys who didn't realize that the friendship is already ruined if you have to say that. Especially if they turn around and bitch about their girlfriends not fucking them. Whatever, dude.

But it is hilarious how some one-nighters come back after swearing up, down and sideways they only wanted a one-nighter.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 03:04 PM
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32. cause
Edited on Thu Jun-03-10 03:05 PM by seabeyond
i wanted to use them and be done with them. lol. i didnt want to be friends with them. i am not a real social kinda gal. lol. i didnt want the mess of it.

and for good reason. even with that, what happened, i ask you. lol
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 03:30 PM
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35. With which one?
The guy who didn't want to ruin the friendship? Sworn enemies. I will paint the Capitol dome red with his blood and festoon the White House with his entrails if he ever shows his face in this town again, and he knows it.

As for the one who kept coming back, he was a bit sketchy, but prettier than Sam Witwer and better hung than Ron Jeremy, so I happily used him repeatedly until he left town.

And they can be useful for other things, sometimes. It's good to have favors to call in, you never know when you'll need 'em.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 12:42 PM
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30. That's pretty much the way I am, too.
I mean, if I'm paying for it, why do I need to lie, too?


:smoke:
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 12:19 PM
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28. What's the point in lying?
I mean really.

All you have to do is find a woman that wants to have sex with you.

If you do, you don't have to lie.

It's as simple as that.
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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 03:38 PM
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36. Most everyone lies for sex...
Or is that lays?
reclines?
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 03:51 PM
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37. It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is


:hide:

:rofl:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 04:39 PM
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41. how many people turned to SO and both at the same time said .... bj. lol
i will not forget that night listening to the man work those words to exactly tell the world he got a bj.

hey

i buy the what "is" is comment. i can be a very literal person when it comes to the law
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 06:35 AM
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56. Yes, I remember him well......
The famous stains.....that republicans made so much of. I really didn't care about the sex, just that he gave the GOPers real ammunition to use against him when they were spending huge effort to make up lies to hammer him with.

But, I wanted this thread to be light humor, so Old Bill is appropriate.


mark
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nomorenomore08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 04:15 PM
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38. People lie all the time, for a million different reasons.
So why wouldn't some guys lie to get laid too?

Me? I'm a bad liar, so I wouldn't even try. :evilgrin:
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 04:24 PM
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39. Lol,
I am a gay woman and back in my prowling days...I did lie.

I'm not proud of it, but I don't think that lying is anything any one gender has a monopoly on.
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 04:24 PM
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40. Yes.
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Dr Morbius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 08:46 AM
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45. Girls just wanna have fun. Guys just wanna get laid.
I am absolutely sure neither gender is above lying to get what they want.

And of course this is a jest; I know well sometimes guys just want to have fun, and ladies have some particular fun in mind. It's a good line, though.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 12:35 PM
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47. Do you think bears would actually shit in the woods? edit
Edited on Fri Jun-04-10 12:36 PM by Deep13
Dammit someone beat me to it.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 08:49 PM
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53. No, I think they prefer
bars that cater to a certain type of clientele.
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Moondog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 05:28 PM
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49. Is a pig's ass pork? n/t
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 05:49 PM
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50. Of course not and no woman has ever faked an orgasm.
:hide:
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 06:53 PM
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51. Well, I did lie to my mother once, telling her I was going to the movies
when I was really getting together with my boyfriend at the time.
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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 08:00 PM
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52. Is this a trick question?
I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule, but I'd wager the majority of men would do or say just about anything to obtain sex.

I'm quite sure I've been lied to on a few occasions.
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 10:26 PM
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54. I've tried that but have been totally unsuccessful
For the life of me I can't fathom why no woman believes me when I say I will melt in ten minutes unless they immediately have sex with me. It's like they want to actually see me melt.
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Q3JR4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 05:41 AM
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55. Call me cynical but,
I think everyone lies about all kinds of things.

We lie about our kids, we lie about our friends, we lie to our lovers about liking their friends, their cooking, or their clothes. We lie to our bosses, our mothers, fathers, and siblings.

Heck we even lie to ourselves.

Will a man (and a woman) lie to have sex? You bet. Will a woman (and a man) fake an orgasm? No question.

We don't choose our mates based on whether they're going to lie to us, we choose them based on whether they're going to treat us right, keep us safe, support us through thick and thin, tell us small lies to protect us from ourselves and each other, hold our hand through the rough patches, and do what they tell us they're going to do.

In the grand scheme of things someone who is there, who loves us, and who tells us white lies--which, again, I think everyone does--is much better than the alternative.

Q3JR4
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 08:01 AM
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57. this is sad. i hate to think i am so different from EVERYONE else.....
i really dont come up with the need to lie. not only, not lie often, but not lie. especially since walking out of parents house, i really see no reason to lie.

you have quite a list of people we lie to.

i never lie to children. never. too important. if they catch me in a lie, then they wont believe me in really important things. life/death things.

i refuse to lie to hubby, even if it isnt a big deal because i want him to know, i dont lie to him and easy to believe what i say

and everyone else isnt important enough for me to lie to, really not any reason to lie.

i have found over the years, there are liars, there are non liars, and there are people that will lie occassionally for a gain or avoid punishment.

i certainly dont see ALL lie

what i see are the liars, say all lie, and that validates their lying.

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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 08:19 AM
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58. Rather ask whether we would *stop* lying to women, if it got us sex. n/t
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 08:24 AM
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59. what are you lying about? have vasectomy, not married, will pull out, dont have aids...?
Edited on Sat Jun-05-10 08:25 AM by seabeyond
love you???

i cannot think of a single sexual experience i have had where there was any reason to lie about anything. not a single time, where there was a lie.

so, since most all the males on this thread swear to the fact all men lie, all the time, to get sex, i am curious

what are you lying about?

can give you an orgasm? will respect you in the morning?
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 10:27 AM
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60. Do they still do that shit?
Jesus grow the fuck up.

Actually, and on second thought, I don't get it. I remember 'lines' back in the day--part of a seduction game, that I would choose to participate in or not, but what lie would a woman listen to to have sex? Are we assuming she doesn't WANT to have sex? She's just a delicate and fragile and naive creature with no sex drive of her own?


Or are we talking about seriously fucked up behavior and emotional manipulation? Even so, having sex is a choice (outside of rape)
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 10:38 AM
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61. the more poster saying, you betcha we all lie, the more i am curious wtf people are lying about.
i hear ya
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theNotoriousP.I.G. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 11:55 AM
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63. Mine lied about his experience
he was a virgin and didn't want to tell me the truth so he made up some stories about his previous experiences. He eventually confessed when I called him on the carpet about it. It made me love him all the more. Sweet little liar :)
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 12:01 PM
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64. i had to laugh.... llol
such a guy. they say, guy give you a number, divide by 3. girl give a number multiply by 3.

i love that

so what, did he say 3. cause i am wondering how true it is.

cute. thanks. i really havent come up to someone lying, so started thinking and was curious.
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theNotoriousP.I.G. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 12:58 PM
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67. He never really specified
how many, just made up some scenarios about what he had done with "women." His confession was so heartbreaking and he was such a wonderful and loving man, I never thought twice about accepting him for who he really was. I did tease him through the years about the "woman" he had sex with up against a wall outside of a disco though! :evilgrin: We laughed together about it.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 01:00 PM
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68. i think
having the ability to empathize with his pain, would allow an understanding of why he did what he did. that he confessed, alone, is sweet.

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theNotoriousP.I.G. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 01:07 PM
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69. He was the sweetest man I've ever met
everybody who knew him said he had such a gentle soul. I was one lucky lady to have found him and to have had him for almost 10 years!
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phasma ex machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 10:45 AM
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62. .
:popcorn:
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Seneca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 12:11 PM
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65. Men would swim through a river of snot and shit
For sex.
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keroro gunsou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 12:25 PM
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66. i quote the master:
"Everyone lies, Michael. The innocent lie because they don't want to be blamed for something they didn't do and the guilty lie because they don't have any other choice."
-- Sinclair in "And the Sky Full of Stars"
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 01:11 PM
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70. I've never lied for sex.
I've jumped through hoops, talked my ass off, laid on the charm, bought drinks, performed feats of daring-do, leaned against a bar and appeared nonchalant but after maturing a little, I've found what works best.

Not being that concerned with it. I don't set-out with the intention of getting laid anymore. If I meet a nice lady and hit it off, cool. If I just hangout and not make any connections, cool.

Sex, romance, adventure, those things come along quicker when you're not looking for them.
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Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 02:14 PM
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71. I've been living with the same woman for years and I STILL lie for sex.
In return, I pretend I believe her when I come home to what's an obvious takeout meal and she claims she made it herself. Seriously.

She actually goes to the trouble to re-wash pots and pans and leave them in the sink soaking to convince me.
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backwoodsbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 02:44 PM
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74. at 1:30 in the morning
I would NEVER lie when the last single girl in the bar asked me if I thought she was hot :)
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backwoodsbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 02:55 PM
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75. you know what they say
go to bed at two with a ten...wake up at ten with a two :)
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Recovered Repug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 04:54 PM
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76. There's a way that doesn't include lying?
News to me.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 07:45 PM
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77. Only on days when the sun rises in the east.
Otherwise, never.........
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 11:15 PM
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78. "I'm divorced!"
Yes, of course.
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