Name An Artist That You Love Their Work But Hate Their Politics

[Yavin4]

For me it's John Malkovich. He's an Ayn Randian asshat, but he's a great actor.

[pink-o]

1. I loved Jon Voight in "Midnight Cowboy" and "Coming Home"

I cannot believe he's such a RW birther idiot, and Angelina's father!!

[Shell Beau]

2. Oddly enough, Angelina is a diehard liberal like I thought she would be.

From what I have read about her (true or not???), she was considering voting McCain last election and has voted repub in the past.

[CBGLuthier]

29. Angelina Jolie is the reverse of this request for me.

She and I could be 100% in agreement politically and I would still rather not see any movie with her in it.

[Shell Beau]

65. That should say NOT a diehard liberal. Jeez.

Me and my typing all wrong!! Totally made this mean the opposite of what I intended.

[Shell Beau]

3. I really try not to know their politics. When I go see a movie,

I don't want to know because that isn't who I am seeing in the movie anyway (if they are a good actor). I appreciate those actors who put their money where their mouth is, but I also will not refuse to see a movie because some diehard republican is in it. Having said all of that, Clint Eastwood is not a democrat. He is a libertarian I think (could so be wrong), but he is awesome regardless. He is talented.

[revolution breeze]

75. Agreed.

These people are paid to entertain not to tell me how to think. Fame doesn't make them smarter than their fans. To the contrary, some are so busy touring, filming, promoting, etc, they are actually very ignorant of their own local politics.

[muffin1]

4. Gary Oldman, Gary Sinise, the late Ron Silver...

and I don't know how much of an 'artist' he is, but Kelsey Grammer, too. I LOVE Frasier, but everytime I watch it now, I can only think, "What the fuck is wrong with you???????!!!???!".

[Quantess]

11. I still don't believe it, about Gary Oldman. How could such a genius actor be conservative?

[Bucky]

38. Because conservatives are people too. And famous actors are millionaires.

Seriously, it's very hard to be a self made millionaire and stay liberal. Becoming very wealthy requires having a strong love of money while the core of liberalism is about wanting to see a basic fairness to all in the economy--seemingly opposite goals.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

14. though Grammer's wingnuttery makes Sideshow Bob seem much more evil

and a better viilian

[rcrush]

18. Ron Silver is dead?

[muffin1]

26. Yep.

I think he died about a year ago. I believe (I'm going to have to check this out after hearing I may be wrong about Oldman), that he used to be a raging liberal until 9/11 - then switched to the 'dark side'. That's when Grammer became a repuke, too. I will never understand the line of reasoning - 'bush was on vacation for almost two-thirds of the year, then 9/11 happened, then we attacked the wrong country in retaliation (on purpose), and did precious little to fight real terrorism - yes, gimme some of that'.

[Zomby Woof]

43. Grammer has been a conservative for YEARS

LONG before 9/11. Knowing he was surrounded by hardcore liberals like Rhea Perlman and Ted Danson made "Cheers" even more enjoyable.

Grammer, though, is a moderate compared to the raving teanutter John Ratzenberger. Playing Cliff Claven is a step up for him intellectually.

[Love Bug]

46. Grammer should be ashamed of himself.

His gay colleagues on "Frasier" supported him throughout his rehab stints like the true friends they are yet Grammer would deny them equal rights. They are better than he deserves, frankly. I guess for Grammer money trumps friendship.

[Zomby Woof]

53. I don't know his stance on gay rights

Not all conservatives are against gay marriage or gays serving openly in the military. I don't think Grammer is of the religious right wing of the party, just the libertarian right wing. I don't know his views on any of those issues.

[qnr]

55. He didn't seem to have any problem cavorting with the Village People in the end credits

of Down Periscope --- don't know what, if anything, that would prove, just bringing the point up.

[Zomby Woof]

68. David Hyde Pierce and John Mahoney

I would think they would have little or nothing to do with him if he were hostile in any way to their human rights. It is my understanding they all got along quite well off set, but I don't have any sources other than recollected interview snippets. In any event, I think Grammer is a tool, but probably not for any reasons to do with equal rights issues.

[Love Bug]

81. It doesn't matter what his personal views on gay rights are. He votes

for people who want to shove every gay back into the closet, along with women and minorities.

[hunter]

87. I've had two encounters with John Ratzenberger in the last couple of years.

Nothing to do with politics or Hollywood, just random shit. It's like some ongoing gag in the situation comedy of my life.

:scared:

I fully expect he'll show up again; don't these things come in threes? Like maybe I'll be driving a rented car in city 2000 miles away from home, minding my own business, and he'll back a motorhome out of an alley and hit me, or something like that. And you know that'll be the time I didn't pay for the walk away collision coverage, because goddamn, I would walk away.

All things considered, I'd rather his recurring role was played by Sean Penn or Meryl Streep.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

22. Gary Oldman claimed no affiliation with any party.

http://thehollywoodinterview.blogspot.com/2008/02/gary-oldman-hollywood-interview.html

This feud, this thing that has bubbled up, has become this sandstorm. I don't even know if it's interesting. It is odd that the word "conservative" has become the sort of politically-correct bad word to call someone. We've even had people call here and say "I didn't know Gary was a conservative," like they were saying I was a Communist. It's been really strange. I have never, politically or publically, claimed affiliation with any party. So this is just a story that got out there, maybe based on a few comments I made in the Premiere piece. And these things just have a way of spinning out of control. They talk about movies, and TV, and video games being the new kind of evil towards kids. It's replaced rock and roll, hasn't it? The Internet, I think, is a more insidious weapon, because it's like an expressway to the world. It's not just in one paper, one edition. If I'm misquoted in Premiere magazine, then a bastardized version gets out there, and the Daily Mirror are writing about it in England. Years ago, it was tomorrow's fish and chips paper. Now, it goes into the file. So this sandstorm that's been kicked up, it's all been a bit bemusing, and rather hurtful.

[muffin1]

28. Thanks for the correction and the link.

Great interview. Oldman is wonderful in everything he does - especially (Leon) The Professional. For some reason, I don't remember him in The Contender. I think I will rent that again soon. Thanks again.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

36. He played the Republican senator and the main antagonist.

He looked different than normal, though he always does that. Amazing actor.

[Bennyboy]

5. Dennis Hopper, Gary Sinese, Kelsey Grammer,

To name a few.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

15. Hopper's all over the map, politically

loved Newt, starred in the "American Carol" crap-fest, but voted for Obama

I try to ignore his politics, because I love him as an actor

[Brickbat]

6. Writer Mark Helprin. (Not Mark Halperin.) He was Dole's speechwriter.

I know, I know.

[Lindsey]

7. Yea, I've heard Jolie and Pitt have massive fights over politics..

And she was considering voting McCain/Palin.

[Lindsey]

8. Myt favorite actor now is definitely Clint Eastwood. n/t

[Quantess]

12. Well, her dad is John Voight, so no wonder she's slightly RW on some issues

Jon Voight is a complete RW'er, GW Bush lover.

[LynneSin]

60. She may also be playing Dagny in an upcoming Ayd Rand movie adaptation

She's a fan of the book.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

9. Robert Duvall.

Brilliant actor, horrible politics.

[ashling]

13. Agree

nt

[Quantess]

10. There was a thread about Bryan Ferry yesterday or Friday

Bryan Ferry, for those who don't know, is a singer who is now solo and was best known for Roxy Music.

Circa 1972: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5gnLix-cgI

He's British, and he's politically conservative.
But he's really cool...unlike most American conservatives.

[chollybocker]

70. Crap.

You've just crushed my soul.

I would have guessed Phil Manzenera as the winger.

Oh well, Roxy was still the greatest. :)

[Quantess]

71. Hey...I'm only going by what some other DUers told me. We could take them at their word,

which was likely true, but in the end, politics don't matter when the music was that amazing and groundbreaking.

Bryan Ferry seems like the unlikeliest of unlikely conservatives, British or not. In my estimation, he probably grew up an upper class boy, with creative talents, who never had more than a puddle-deep interest in politics beyond parroting his parents, as he dabbled in drugs and alcohol.

[smirkymonkey]

74. Actually, I think he grew up quite poor.

I think his father was a coal miner or something like that. Still, I love his music and was dissappointed to hear about his politics, but he could be worse.

[mitchum]

82. And the son of a coal miner would have never gone to art college if the Tories always had their way

I have always been disappointed by Ferry's politics
and his son is an even bigger right wing twit

[chollybocker]

78. Hmm. Maybe that explains the Nazi-like uniforms

he wore on-stage in the mid-70's. I always *hoped* it was just glam parody. Hmm.

[mitchum]

83. I think that really was just part of that whole Nazi Chic fad in 70s rock

but Ferry is indeed a Tory twit

[chollybocker]

85. I remember Bowie being raked over the coals

by the British press for some comment he made, being 'sympathetic with Nazis,' during the time he was terribly coked-out, just before he went to Berlin with Iggy.

Punks, esp. Siouxsie and the Bromley Set, wore swastikas and got a lot of press because of it.

Anyway. Still sad about BF. :(

[mitchum]

86. There really was a lot of that at the time...

Bowie with his Nazi occult interests
Lou Reed shaving Iron Crosses into his hair
Jimmy Page wearing a Luftwaffe cap
Stooge Ron Asheton's Nazi uniforms
Lots of Nazi references in Blue Oyster Cult's work
March Violets name
Joy Division's name
etc...

[mitchum]

84. Started off poor, but became insecure noveau riche and has to try harder

Amazing artist, though

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

16. Charlton Heston

I LOVE "The Omega Man" and "Planet of the Apes"

[realisticphish]

21. well

the man also marched with MLK jr. I don't think he was conservative on much other than 2nd Amendment

[RFKHumphreyObama]

31. He also campaigned for gun control in the aftermath of RFK's death

His conversion to wingnuttery came later. I think he was one of those Raygun converts

[Zomby Woof]

44. Oh yes he was

When he was alive, he regularly wrote LTTE's to the L.A. Times, all of a very hardcore conservative bent, beyond gun issues. He would cite decades-old anecdotes of "marching with civil rights leaders" as a way of saying "Look! Not all conservatives are racists and against civil rights!" He never could cite any contemporary examples. He was sort of like Norma Desmond in that respect.

Back in the 80's he used to shill for National Review magazine, which fellated Reagan and supply-side economics on a regular basis.

[JCMach1]

23. Would agree on Heston...

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

17. also Mike Nelson

the MST3K has quite a political divide

Mike's a wingnut. Mary Jo, Joel and Trace did some work for Air America

[rcrush]

19. And they all joke about smoking weed on the Rifftrax.

[realisticphish]

20. honestly, though

you don't hear his politics much, if at all. Even in his books

[HughBeaumont]

34. Yet ANOTHER reason why I stopped watching when Joel exited.

Nelson . . . I don't know whether it's his delivery or lack of comic timing, but as an on-air talent . .. yeah, he's a hell of a writer.

[joeybee12]

35. I don't think he's wing-nut...but he definitely leans to the right...n/t

[wickerwoman]

24. John Corbett...

How can Chris in the Morning and Aidan from SATC be a born-again, neo-fascist asshat?

[muffin1]

27. You reminded me of another one.

Janine Turner, the super-cutie from Northern Exposure. I always LOVED the Maggie character - so feisty, so cute.

I used to want to own that series, but now, not so much. I was flipping channels one night, and came across Janine on the 'Huckabee' show. This was before the election, and she was going on and on about how great Sarah Palin is. What a great story. What a great woman. The public is afraid of strong women, blah, blah, blah.

And now John Corbett??? x(

[driver8]

47. I had a thing for her when she was on Northern Exposure...

then found out that she was a big time right-winger.

Can't believe that "Chris in the Morning" is a right-winger, too!

[muffin1]

50. I had a thing for her, too...

and I'm not gay. She was just too cute - now she's all 'tarted-up'. I am still sporting the 'Maggie' haircut, though.

Next thing you know, we'll find out Ruth Ann is a right-winger.

[GoCubsGo]

79. How can e be a...?

He has been linked with fellow born-again, neo-fascist asshat Bo Derek since 2002. She has rubbed off on him, apparently. It broke my heart when I heard he hooked up with that creature.

[Roon]

25. Meatloaf

Love his music, but alas, he's a republican.

[rcrush]

49. Meatloaf!

LOL Really? Damn but MEATLOAF IS STILL GOD TO ME DAMMIT

[mvd]

52. Yeah, apparently he is a Republican

Really surprised me, too. I like his music. Same with some country music Republicans, like George Strait and Miranda Lambert - good music but bad politics. Country stars have a right to free speech too, but those two artists don't get political on their albums, unlike Gretchen Wilson - guess President Obama compelled Gretchen to spout her ignorance.

[cherish44]

63. For some reason I just assume all country music artists are Republican

Well Tim McGraw has said he's a democrat and big Bill Clinton admirer so there's one. Toby Keith..I love his music but I hated the whole "We;re gonna kick yer asses you towelheads" macho crap thing he went off on (I believe he's identified himself as a Democrat too...hard to believe)

[mvd]

64. There IS a group called Music Row Democrats

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/19/washington/19nashville.html?ex=1313640000&en=18f84d4844d735f7&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

[hippywife]

73. But he's a Democrat from OK which doesn't

mean he isn't a conservative nut job. Things are weird down here.

[Burma Jones]

30. John Popper from Blues Traveler and the composer Richard Wagner

Popper is one of those "I was a liberal until I got a job" types

Wagner was an awful Anti-Semite

[Tommy_Carcetti]

32. I think Craig T. Nelson is hilarious.

Loved Coach and some of his movie roles.

Yet unfortunately, politically the man is as dumb as a box of rocks.

[BlueIris]

33. John Malkovich likes Ayn Rand? John. Malkovich.

There goes that celebrity crush down the drain.

[miscsoc]

37. ted nugent

[melman]

67. Definitely The Nuge

He is a hideous person but some of his '70s stuff is really great.

[Bucky]

39. He only takes bit parts, but Chuck Yeager is actually pretty good on camera

And he cut commercials for Reagan in 1984. Of course that was when 59% of the country went wobbly.

[Zomby Woof]

45. In 2008, Yeager endorsed Duncan Hunter for president

You can't get much more wingnut than that. In his books, he is open about his far-right politics. Credit to his wife, who thought it was rather humorous that a kid who grew up poor in West Virginia would give a damn about the Republicans.

[Bucky]

58. Well a lot of West Virginians turned into Republicans. Frankly...

I'm surprised Democrats held onto WV as long as we did. Republicans may be reducing themselves to a regional party, but it's a damn big region.

[Zomby Woof]

69. Mrs. Yeager had indicated that he always was GOP

But it seems as time has progressed, he was no mere Eisenhower moderate Republican, common in the military. He makes Barry Goldwater look like a flaming liberal. And come to think of it, Goldwater IS by today's Teabag Standards.

Duncan Hunter. *shudder* Could be a stunt double for Bob Dornan.

[TheMightyFavog]

40. Mike Nelson

Even though I'm more of a Joel person, Space Mutiny, Prince of Space, and The Final Sacrifice were some of the most piss-your-pants funny episodes of MST3K.

[KamaAina]

41. Dead lyricist John Perry Barlow

is a raging libertarian. :wtf:

[nomorenomore08]

59. Makes sense in a way...

You might say that libertarianism, in some cases at least, is simply "live and let live" applied (naively) to economic issues.

[Bennyboy]

66. He was at one time a Republican....

I have had some very intense political conversation with JPB. He is quite the genius. Looks at every side of the equation. I really don't know that I would personally characterize him as Libertarian. Not in the Ron Paul kind of libertarian anyway.

He wrote the Song Throwing Stones about Dick Cheney...

[KamaAina]

42. Once upon a time,. Neil Young had a man-crush on Raygun

fortunately, "Rockin' In The Free World" announced his return into the light.

[Ahpook]

80. Never would have guessed that one.

What the hell is it with the Raygun era?

I wasn't old enough to know much of that period. My parents who have always voted democratic voted for Reagan, and that is the only time they swayed.

Of course now they realize what a mistake that was.

[Deep13]

48. Mike Nelson of Mystery Science Theater fame. nt

[Forkboy]

51. Varg Vikernes...a.k.a. Burzum

Murderer, arsonist....and maker of damn fine black metal. :shrug:

[LanternWaste]

54. Mamet and Vidal

Mamet and Vidal. Both are master wordsmiths, but both are just a bit too far left (politically and philosophically) for my liking.

[guitar man]

56. Robert Duvall

Repuke or not, he's one of the best actors I've ever seen.

[blue neen]

57. I'd have to agree with you on that one.

His acting is awesome, his politics stink.

[nomorenomore08]

61. Morrissey, in some respects. He's no right-winger (he endorsed both Kerry and Obama),

but some of his anti-immigrant, "pro-British" comments in recent years have made him sound almost like a BNP member. What's really strange, though, is the apparent cognitive dissonance on Moz's part - while living in Los Angeles for a number of years, he cultivated a large Latino fanbase, and his song "Mexico" seems to express a sympathetic view of Mexican immigrants to the U.S. And yet people emigrating to Britain is somehow a bad thing? I honestly don't get it...

[cherish44]

62. I always liked the Drew Carey show

well it kind of jumped the shark at the end but that's not uncommon. Anyway he's pretty Republican in his politics

[Quantess]

72. Drew Carey? Republican, really?

I just hope that "pretty republican" doesn't mean Sarah-Palin-admirer, or anything.

[Lilith Velkor]

76. Adam Baldwin

There's a reason he tends to get roles as sociopaths.

[Touchdown]

77. I can't believe I'm the only one. Mel Gibson

I love his movies, both director and actor. Braveheart, Apocalypto, Man Without a Face... just not the Jesus snuff film.

Road Warrior is great, The Lethal Weapons, What Women in a persistent vegetative state Want.... all good. Bird on a Wire sucked huge opus dicks.