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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 10:54 AM
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Feeding cats: canned food vs dry food - or feed both?
What have you read? Should you feed only canned, or only dry, or both? Why?

What do you feed your cat(s)? At what times? How much? What brands?
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 10:56 AM
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1. my cat gets daily dry food
and gets some wet food on the side maybe every other day or three.
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 06:21 PM
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27. That's what I do.
Edited on Wed Mar-24-10 06:22 PM by hippywife
They get very little wet. Between the two of them it takes two days to go through one small can of Fancy Feast. And I always buy the varieties without wheat gluten in them.

Basically, wet food around here is sort of used as a treat. My one cat really doesn't care all that much for it really unless it's the whitefish and tuna one. Which is also why it's only fed every few days or so. They shouldn't have fish more than twice a week, and then only in small amounts, due to the mercury.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 05:43 PM
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41. yeah, mine's not that into it either. A can lasts a couple of feedings
Instead I sometimes just buy him some tuna or turkey. He does like those a lot.
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 07:20 PM
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42. The only human food they seem
to enjoy is ham for some reason. They don't eat chicken very often or turkey. Weird cats. :shrug:
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 11:02 AM
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2. Dry food - keeps them "regular".
Wet food is only for special occasions like Thanksgiving and Christmas.

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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 11:08 AM
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3. A mix of both is what has been recommended to me, with
much more dry than wet....

I will feed mixed-together 'high quality' dry (like Natural Balance, California Natural, etc.) with CostCo's Kirkland brand (their 25 lb bag for $15 has lasted damn near two months -- and with six cats, the more economical I can be, the better. I know you understand, Bertha!). Their brand didn't have corn or by-product fillers as the first ingredient which is why I bought it.

For wet, I'll split one of the Friskies or Whiskas pouches or a can of Fancy Feast. I have one cat who has weight issues and I try to give her just a teeny tiny taste or else she bitches at me allllll day long. And two girls who have sensitive teeth that I can't afford to have pulled right now, so they get more moist just to make sure they're getting enough to eat.

If I had only one or two cats, I'd feed high-end brands all the time (except for the fact that NONE of my cats like the high-quality moist, though they all like high-quality dry). But with six babies and a budget to keep, I have to resort to a mix of good and 'commercial grade'.

Both my sister (a vet) and my vet have suggested some of both - wet and dry.

Feed moist in the morning and evenings. Dry kibble is out all day in limited quantities. No food at night except for the oldest girl, who sleeps upstairs. All the young'uns (6 and under) sleep downstairs.


How are you, Bertha? :hi: :hug:
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 11:09 AM
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4. We keep a bowl of dry filled at all times
and let the two kitties share one can of wet every evening. It seems to work. they eat the dry a lot, but they are very active so they aren't over weight.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 11:10 AM
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5. Here's what my vet says (she's a cat specialist)
Should be mostly wet with just a little bit of dry food. She says that dry food is like candy to cats and causes more weight issues.
I give them Science diet Oral Care to keep their teeth clean but mostly I give them a couple of cans of Fancy Feast Elegant Gourmet food. The vet says thats pretty high quality food all things considered (there is better but she says as long as my cats do well on it she has no problem with it). My cats could do a "Whats got into that cat! FRISKIES!!" Commercial and have soft and shiny coats so I think my feeding regiment works.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:50 PM
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20. That's what we do. And for the dry we use a formula for older indoor
cats that's lower calorie and helps with hairballs.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 01:14 AM
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34. That's close to what my cat's vet says (also a cat specialist.)
She also cited weight problems especially with older indoor-only cats when fed only dry food.

It's moot here because my cat is now on an all wet food diet after a serious UT problem. Since he's gone to an all wet food diet his coat has become amazingly soft and silky and his claws need trimming more frequently so for him it is a better diet.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 11:16 AM
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6. Mine get a high quality dry food.
I've heard mixed things on which is better, but with four permanent cats and the occasional special guest cat, I need the more convenient and economical option, and the smell of wet cat food makes me want to yak anyhow.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 11:38 AM
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7. My five get both wet and dry
Edited on Wed Mar-24-10 11:38 AM by supernova
I keep dry kibble and water out all day and they can snack whenever. I use Nutro Natural Max Cat kitten food. I also throw in the occasional Royal Canin small bag. They love it, but boy is it expensive; that's why it's only the small bag. :P I like that the dry food keeps the hairballs down. Though one has a tendency to gorge and I will find an upchucked mouthful in the morning sometimes. :eyes:

I'm up for options on what to feed them once everybody's off kitten level. :P

At night I split a human tuna can for two kitties. They get that about 4-5 times/week. I get the single serving can of the house brand at the grocery store. It's usually on sale for 60-70 cents/can. They also get the occasional raw trimmings from whatever meat I fix. Boy do they ever love that!

They zing around here like there's no tomorrow. :rofl: And their coats are very soft and shiny.

They're pretty good about tasting everything. Though they don't like salmon as much as tuna. :wtf:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 11:47 AM
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8. My cats split a can of wet in the morning and always dry food available
If they don't get their wet food in the morning they will bug the living bejesus out of me til I end up with cat litter in my mouth - used cat litter

:cry:
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Betty88 Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 12:57 PM
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9. Dry often has a lot of fillers
If you are going to just feed dry make it one of the good ones, Evo for example. I feed mine a mix. I have one cat that is diabetic, have to watch the carbs in his food, and dry can have lots it. Another is allergic to poultry so no chicken (which btw is in almost everything.)

I have found that Instinct Rabbit dry works well for both of the above cats and the third loves it.
http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=instinct+cat+food&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=4074900715&ref=pd_sl_27epbwd49l_b

check this out for some brands
http://www.naturapet.com/


bad food now ='s big vet bill later.

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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 01:12 PM
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10. My vet, who specialized in diabetes, feels that dry food is the reason for the spike in
feline diabetes over the last decade or so. He used to believe the stuff about dry food keeping their teeth cleaner and their bowels more regular, but the more he researched the more he changed his mind.

Now I'm a believer because both my cats had diabetes and I used to give the first one diagnosed the dry "diabetes" formula. He never got much better even with daily insulin injections and died almost 7 years ago. By the time my second one was diagnosed, my vet had me do a special insulin treatment and get him on wet food right away. He's 17 now and has lived without insulin injections for 5 years. I'm careful what wet food I give him because even a lot of wet food has fillers and other carbs that cats don't need.

The food he loves the most is a frozen food called Country Pet. I can't always get it though, so I look for canned food without rice or corn or other fillers and a fiber content below 1%. Right now he eats the Whole Foods 365 Brand beef and liver. He doesn't like it nearly as much as Country Pet, so I alternate it in case I can't get the Country Pet.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 01:19 PM
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11. It's amazing how much cat food
has rice in it.

RICE!?! :wtf:

Cats don't need rice or any other grains. They need MEAT.

If I could afford it, I'd feed them raw food that I fix myself and freeze into portions.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 01:24 PM
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13. I know. It's crazy.
I tried making him raw food for awhile, but he likes the Country Pet even more so I don't bother. He goes crazy for the stuff and I don't get it. It has the texture of a hunk of baloney and is kinda grayish, but he eats it like it's going out of style.
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Betty88 Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:33 PM
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17. This is what probably gave my cat diabetes
he would not eat anything but dry food, and we fed him what we thought was good food. However after a week in the hospital and hours on the internet reading up on cat nutrition we learned better.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 04:20 PM
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23. I know. Even when I was broke I spent money on the "premium" dry food because
I thought it would keep them healthier (and would save me in vet's bills). Lesson learned there. It drives me crazy that Science Diet has a dry "diabetes" formula and a lot of vets still prescribe it. Great, I get to pay even more to make my cat's diabetes worse. :eyes:
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mockmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 01:21 PM
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12. Just switched to mostly wet
We have 12 indoor only cats and go through two 13 oz. cans a day. The whole cat food thing (Dry? Wet? Home Made?) was making me insane. After talking to our Vet he said that a "low carb" wet food would be better than the dry with an occasional can of wet that we had been doing. The moisture content in the wet food is part of what makes it more desirable.

As far as dry being better for the teeth the Vet said that they are finding that dry really doesn't offer any benefits as tartar build up tends to have more to do with the genetics.

We have been trying different wet foods to find one that the majority will like.

"Felidae" Premium for Senior and Overweight Cats is the one I buy most. I also buy "California Natural" Chicken flavored. The cats hate any of the Beef flavored cat foods for some reason. I have been reluctant to buy duck, venison, and lamb flavors. :shrug:

The Dry food consists of either "California Natural"" Chicken and Brown Rice or "Evo" Herring and Salmon which only a couple of the cats like.

I give them the Wet food before and after work. Anything they don't eat within an hour gets thrown out. Which usually isn't much. I don't give them a lot of dry food when we are gone. The can directions say 6 to 7 oz. per 7 or 8 lbs. I'm sure that most are not getting that much food in a day. Titus our overweight cat is always there anytime wet or dry food is put down. Sometimes I try to "shoo" him away.

Time will tell if we have any success with keeping their weight down. We have two cats that we are keeping an eye on for weight issues. The heaviest being 16 lbs. I've been trying to buy them more toys to keep them entertained. We have a large apartment so you seldom see more than 4 cats at any time.

We took three cats in this month to be spayed. Now all of them are fixed. Ten cats have had their yearly checkup this month and only two are left to do in June. Hopefully this makes some sense, it's way past my bedtime.


:woohoo:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 01:25 PM
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14. They have a bit of kibble at their disposal all day long, and get a bit of the wet stuff in
Edited on Wed Mar-24-10 01:26 PM by GreenPartyVoter
the morning and at bedtime to make up for me giving them teh evil pills. :D

Kibble is usually some sort of indoor cat grass formula. Cans are Friskies, I think.
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tango-tee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 01:56 PM
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15. Both dry and wet.
For all of my cats I've alway kept their bowls filled with dry food, so it's always available. In the morning and evening, they get a small helping of wet food in addition. Seems to work, most of my sweeties reached a fairly ripe old age without a lot of health problems.

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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:06 PM
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16. If you let them outside, they will find their own food.
:hide:

Well we fed ours and they found their own food anyway! And brought it home! That's their way of saying, "Listen human, I know that you are so fucking stupid that if I don't bring dead rodents home for you to eat, you will starve."

Let me translate that into cat-talk to prove it to you. "Mrow." *stares expectantly*
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:44 PM
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18. Pretty much all dry food
I'll give her half a can of wet food every couple weeks or so as a treat.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:47 PM
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19. If we use only canned food our cat's breath is terrible and her teeth
get really icky. Plus she has more trouble with hairballs with just canned food. So, I'd go with both. We use canned for her main meal but keep a little dry food in her bowl during the day for snacks.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 03:24 PM
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21. Both
Partly because one of them doesn't care for canned, and dry is somewhat easier for me. They get dry in the morning. I use a corn/soy/wheat-free variety, usually one of Blue Buffalo's formulas, although sometimes I switch that out with By Nature weight control. Both have a grain-free formula, which I will buy if the price is right. Can't afford it normally. At night, they get canned, again soy/wheat/corn-free. Usually, it's the store-brand version of Fancy Feast or Whiska's seafood in the pouches. Some of the "Authority" brand from PetSmart are also grain-free or have only rice in them, and I sometimes buy that, as well. The old man prefers canned, and I may eventually switch him to 100% canned, as he has gum disease. And, he's pushing 16, so why not make him as happy as possible in his golden years. The other one is somewhat picky about canned food. She's partial to the fish-flavored ones, but still only eats more than a few bites only when the mood suits her.
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catbyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 03:57 PM
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22. My guys get unlimited kibble & canned at suppertime
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 04:23 PM
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24. Mine got 95% dry food...
.
...but always got a little canned tuna when I fixed it and I would buy
her some expensive tiny little gourmet treat wet food about once a week
or so.
.
She never came running Pavlovian-style at the sound of a can opener --
didn't get it enough to make the connection.
.
She really liked sharing birdy with me (chicken) -- even though cooking
kinda ruined it.
.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 05:05 PM
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25. My cat gets daily dry food
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 05:36 PM
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26. Mostly dry food.
Kyra has digestion issues, and the only food I found that she can eat is Halo Sensitive Stomach. It's great high quality food and all of the cats like it. It's a bit expensive, but they eat less and poop less.

They get Halo's Spot's Stew wet food for an occasional treat. Wet food is just so gross. I can't deal with the smell of it on a regular basis. Sorry, kitties.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 06:47 PM
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28. Where is the love for semi-moist?
Once we came home to find our dear Kwan Yin tearing open her third or fourth pack of Tender Vittles in the pantry! I sent the evidence to Purina, hoping they would make our beautiful, talented shiny black girl a star, but they were having none of it. :(
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 07:40 PM
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29. My Gang of Fur gets both canned and dry food.
They each get 1/3 of a small can of canned Wellness food, and can help themselves to dry food as well. The dry food is either Wellness or Indigo Moon. Neither the dry nor the canned food contains grains or corn gluten. Every now and then I mix in a raw egg.

I have been told that too much dry food, at least the kind that's mostly made of corn gluten, tends to cause diabetes in cats.
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MrsMatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 07:54 PM
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30. I feed both
a 1/3 of a can or a full small can of food in the a.m. and p.m. and a scoop of dry for all day nibbling.

We feed EVO dry and either EVO canned (chicken & turkey flavors only) or Fancy Feast. The Fancy Feast usually is used for when we run out of the good stuff. My old girl (17 years) actually prefers the FF, even though I know it's not the best food (we avoid the "in gravy" as that seems to upset her system - ditto anything Beef). She also LOVES LOVES Halo's Spots Stew.

We also feed leftovers - my husband usually roasts a chicken every week, and our two cats will get the little leftover bits over the week. No bones, of course.

I keep a jar of baby food meat on hand too - used as a treat, or if someone's appetite needs stimulation.

They both used to be strictly dry food cats, but that has changed in the last 3 years as Nancy has gotten older, and also when Stanley (aged 7) developed a taste for canned when he went in for tooth extraction (again 3 years ago).
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 07:54 PM
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31. There is dry food available all day..6 cats, four bowls with Merrick BG Chicken. Grain free food.
Edited on Wed Mar-24-10 07:59 PM by BrklynLiberal
filled each morning.
In the evening, when I put together the dog's feast...the cats get to share canned food - 2 cans of Weruva, Merrick or some other grain free cat food..
I am lucky..My furbabies have always eaten whatever I put down for them.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 08:18 PM
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32. It is true that low quality dry food, and even low quality wet food can
result in Feline Diabetes.

Eliminate as much of the carbs, grains as you can from their diet.
http://cat-care.suite101.com/article.cfm/feline_diabetes_a_growing_epidemichttp://yourdiabeticcat.com/diet.html
Feline Diabetes And Your Cat
Prevention Is The Best Cure
Diabetes in cats is becoming an epidemic in the US. What causes a cat to develop diabetes? What can you, as a cat owner, do to prevent your cat from becoming a victim?

First we need to learn a little bit about cats, and how their bodies utilize nutrients.
Cats Are Obligate Carnivores

What is an obligate carnivore? It's an animal that was designed to eat a diet that's high in protein, with very few carbohydrates. Cats in the wild are predators who eat other animals. As distasteful as this is to some humans, you can't change biology. Cats just aren't designed to eat large amounts of carbohydrates. Their bodies don't even produce the enzymes needed to break down carbs efficiently.

Unfortunately, nearly every commercial dry cat food on the market contains large amounts of carbohydrates, in the form of grains. Dr. Elizabeth Hodgkins is a vet who has been studying feline diabetes for over ten years. At her website, YourDiabeticCat.Com, she says that "Diabetes in the cat is a man-made disease, which is completely preventable by avoiding the "kitty junk-food" that is dry kibbled cat food."

A wild cat's diet is high in protein, and very low in carbs. Dry cat food is very high in carbs due to its high grain content, and contains only a moderate amount of protein. This is almost the exact opposite of a cat's natural diet. According to Dr. Hodgkins, feeding an animal that isn't designed to eat large amounts of carbs a high-carb diet can only lead to the disaster of a diabetic cat.


What Should You Feed Your Cat?

Dr. Lisa A. Pierson is another vet who believes that diabetes in cats is a direct result of feeding a high-carb diet of dry cat food. In her article, Feline Diabetes and Diet: The High Carbohydrate Culprit she points out that a bird or mouse contains only three to five percent carbs. Dry cat food, on the other hand, contains 35-50 percent carbs. All these extra carbs are stored as fat, which is why so many cats are overweight these days. And a fat cat is more likely to beome a diabetic cat.

Dr. Pierson recommends feeding all cats a high-quality canned food, which is much higher in protein and lower in carbs. Canned food also has the additional benefit of a much higher moisture level than dry food has. Many cats don't drink a lot of water because they were designed to get most of their moisture from their food. A cat who eats dry food all the time is always somewhat dehydrated, which can lead to urinary tract infections (a very common problem in cats) and even kidney disease later in life.
Diabetes In Cats Is Easier To Prevent Than To Treat

Both Dr. Pierson and Dr. Hodgkins are firm believers in preventing feline diabetes from developing in the first place. Both vets think that since feline diabetes is caused by feeding cats a low-quality, species-inappropriate diet high in grains, the best way to prevent it is to feed your cat a high-quality canned cat food throughout his life. Feeding a proper diet will also prevent your cat from gaining too much weight and becoming obese.

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If your cat already has diabetes>>>
Diets for Diabetic Cats

One of the questions that diabetic cat owners ask most frequently is “what should I feed my cat?” It is an excellent question, because diet is the cornerstone of health for all cats, but especially the diabetic cat. As a result, there are many pages of recommendations written elsewhere about the nutrient composition of diets for diabetic cats. Unfortunately, great deal of this information is imprecise, at best. What we know about most pet foods, and what is published about the nutrient content of cat foods on other sites, is simply a compilation of information supplied by the pet food companies about their own products (this is because of the high cost of actually conducting independent laboratory tests on each food independently). This nutrient information is NOT the result of third-party testing of current “runs” of these foods produced by those companies. In fact, the information provided by pet food manufacturers is often years-old and hardly representative of the food you are planning to purchase at the supermarket or pet food warehouse today. Often enough, the formulation of the food you buy with has a very different ingredient composition from the food with that same name that was tested for publication months or years earlier. Even when published information is recent, you cannot rely on the pet food companies to report the nutrient content of their products accurately. A very good example of this is the carbohydrate content claims made by a company that manufactures a new, “low carbohydrate” dry cat food. The company claims that its food is 7% carbohydrate. Actual nutrient analysis of this food conducted by the author shows that the carbohydrate content is 13%, almost twice the amount stated by the company, and that carbohydrate is doubly harmful because it is from highly processed potato! Relatively small differences between foods, for example and most importantly, the carbohydrate content of a food on a “percent of calories” basis, cannot be relied on unless the very cans of food on the store shelves have themselves been tested for this value. Needless to say, it would be highly impractical for pet owners to test every case of food they buy! What is important about this information is the idea that we simply cannot rely on information from pet food companies when we make decisions about what food to feed our diabetic cats. You are kidding yourself if you believe that the numbers on pet food nutrient content charts based on pet food company information really tell you what is going into your cat. So, does this mean the situation is hopeless?? Absolutely not. What it means is that you will want to rely on a completely different set of criteria when you select the food for your cat. What are those criteria?

1) First and foremost, always choose a canned, pouched, or raw meat diet for your cat. No type, brand or variety of dry food is acceptable for any cat, but especially not for any diabetic cat!! This includes every single food that is labeled as “for diabetics” (such as Hills m/d dry, Purina DM dry and Innova Evo dry). I CANNOT emphasize this point enough. I have had several clients whose diabetic cats have been released from their dependence on insulin who subsequently relapsed because their people believed what they read on a bag of dry cat food. There is simply NO dry cat food, and there likely never will be any dry cat food that will be an appropriate food for diabetic cats!

2) Look for a food that contains little or NO cereals, vegetables or fruits of any kind. Some of the most expensive of the “wet” cat foods available today contain hideous amounts of completely unnecessary plant-derived ingredients like corn, corn flour, corn grits, corn gluten, rice, rice flour, wheat, wheat gluten, soy protein, potato, sweet potato, carrots, apples, cranberries, blueberries and similar. These ingredients might be part of a well-balanced human diet, but they have no place in the diet of even a healthy cat, much less a cat already debilitated by the ill effects of a high-carbohydrate diet. Pet food companies put these ingredients in their canned foods because they are cheap and plentiful, and because they appeal to the pet food buyer’s mistaken ideas about what is “good food” for cats. These ingredients have no scientifically-demonstrated value for the cat; in fact these ingredients contribute unacceptable amount of carbohydrate, sugar, and fiber (gastrointestinal residue) that the cat is not equipped to handle. The use of these ingredients is solely the result of corporate profitability and marketing considerations!

3) Find foods that have a predominance of acceptable meat ingredients, like chicken, turkey, and beef, or even meat-by-products, that your cat likes. Palatability is very important because your cat can only benefit from foods that it is willing to eat. Meat by-products have been given a “bad rap” by pet food companies that wish to market their vegetable ingredients successfully against meat-based foods. The fact is that meat-by-products in most canned foods are nothing more or less than the wholesome parts of meat animals that humans do not usually consume. For example, the clean spleens, lungs and udders of meat-animals would be discarded in most parts of the world if they could not be included in pet foods. They are perfectly acceptable meats for pets, if handled properly. As I have told many of my clients, I would much prefer my cats eat such by-products than corn, rice, potato or other vegetable ingredients.

4) Having just stated that wet foods with meat ingredients are acceptable for the feline diabetic, I nonetheless always suggest to my clients that they consider feeding at least some fresh, raw or lightly cooked meat to their diabetic cats. My own cats eat ONLY raw meat and, while this is not mandatory for good results in the diabetic cat, it is a very good way to provide some of the natural, unprocessed nutrition the cat evolved to utilize best. While some carbohydrate-addicted cats do not take readily to meat, many diabetic cats seem to instinctively recognize unprocessed meat as their natural diet. It is fun to watch a pet “attack” a meat diet with the same zest that its ancestors displayed after a successful hunt! To summarize: Diabetic cat owners should not become slaves to pet food nutrient charts. Such charts are, by their very nature, inaccurate, incomplete (new foods come along every day) and self-serving to the pet food companies. You simply cannot be sure to make the very best food choices for your cat by this method. Foods which charts may show as “lower in carbs” than others may not actually be lower in carbs and other nutrients listed. It is much more sensible to understand the basic rules of cat food selection as these rules apply to all foods, whether they are listed on charts or not, and whether those charts are accurate or not. After working with a great many diabetic cats, and watching them achieve good remissions on a great many diets, (even some that did not rate as well on charts as others), I am convinced that common sense and a few basic “rules” work extremely well in helping pet owners make good choices when they shop for foods for their diabetic kitties.
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nclib Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 09:01 PM
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33. Wet food.
I used to feed only dry food until one of my cats got diabetes and almost died. After we got him past the critical stage I started doing some research and most of the information I read said dry food can contribute to diabetes. It's all the grains and fillers they have in them. I switched the diabetic cat to low carb canned food and in less than a month he didn't have to have insulin anymore. It also helped with his megacolon so no more enemas or pills. And his coat was so shiny and smooth. One of my cats refused to eat the canned stuff so I started looking for a dry food without a lot of the grains. I found Wellness Core which is supposed to be grain free. I also switched my diabetic cat to Wellness canned. So I have one cat who eats just canned, one who eats just dry, and one who eats both. So far it's working.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:17 AM
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35. Cats were made to eat mice and lizards
My parents always fed our cats dry. Then again, most of their cats died under wheels. Except the most recent, who was put down because he couldn't pee anymore, due to crystals and pain. They refused to listen to me about diet, and by the time trouble hit and they tried higher quality foods, the cat refused to eat anything different than his accustomed brand of super-value crunchy dry food, per my depression era minded bargain shopper mother.

I on the other hand say one should keep a tank of mice. Start them at a young age with the pinkies, and soon they will be gobbling up mice by the bushel load. The ultimate wet food, no?
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 06:52 AM
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36. I have fed my cats only dry food: Purina Pro Senior Hairball.
My cat is over 16 years old, weighs 7.5 pounds and is in good health. My first cat lived to be 20 (I found her by the side of the road when she was 3 days old) and she had dry food for most of her life. My current cat gets feed very small amounts of food multiple times throughout the day and so she seems to digest it well and her bowel movements are regular and firm.

My philosophy has always been to dispel my cats of the myth of the magic food bowl which is somehow always full for them. They make a clear connection with me being the source of their food and so I don't get an attitude from them. Also, I have never had a cat die which had food in its bowl so I don't coddle the finicky cat appetite.
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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 07:18 AM
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37. Crunch Crunch Crunch, They Are Eating Now
Dry only, my 20 Y/O won't even go near canned food.
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 07:20 AM
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38. Daily, they get dry food, a set amount for the three boys to graze on
Three times a day they get their "treats" (they know the word, so I'm checking to see if any are circling me right now) which can be either a crunchy or soft treat, depending on what we have around.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 08:16 AM
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39. Dry food only -- her choice.
We tried feeding her canned, but she would not eat it.

Right now she gets Meow Mix Indoor Formula. We only fill her bowl when it's empty, or near empty. We check it several times a day so she doesn't go without.

Another thing -- she's never been a fan of catnip or treats, either.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 08:54 AM
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40. Mostly wet, with dry if they want it.
My vet says wet food is better for them anyway, more moisture content and less fillers. They each get a half can in the AM and a half can in the PM. The small cans, usually fancy feast or Iams or something like that. Since they are so all-fired finicky, I open three different cans to make sure they have a choice of food. YES they are spoiled. Especially since -- get this -- one of them seems to be having teeth issues, at least if it's the big chunky kind of food, she licks off the "goodie" and doesn't eat the meat -- so if it's too chunky I have taken to throwing it in the blender with a little hot water. LOL! Mmm, catfood frappe at 6 am! DEELISH! Hehehe.
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