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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:02 PM
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Cat owners 'more educated than dog owners'
Cats have long been thought to be cleverer than dogs - and now it seems the same is true of their owners.

By Matthew Moore - Published: 7:30AM GMT 06 Feb 2010

People with cats are more likely to have university degrees than those with dogs, according to a scientific survey of pet ownership.

The study also revealed that the combined cat and dog population of Britain is more than 20.8 million - 50 per cent higher than previously thought.

Researchers at the University of Bristol say that the superior intelligence of cat owners is unlikely to be caused by their exposure to the famously cunning and selfish pets.

Rather, more educated people tend to work longer hours and choose a pet to fit their lifestyles. Unlike dogs, cats require no walking and can manage with little human company.

<SNIP>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/7165164...
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:03 PM
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1. fiddlesticks. I have cats and dogs. and a parrot. what a crock.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:08 PM
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2. ....
:popcorn:
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:09 PM
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6. lol n/t
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:27 PM
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20. I predict 100 responses, at a minimum.
;)
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:30 PM
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22. I predict
that either dog or cat owners will demand a subforum where they can complain they're hated by DU's paid cat/dog operatives.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:08 PM
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3. "Cats have long been thought to be cleverer than dogs" - but only by cat owners
:)
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 11:10 AM
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62. Precisely n/t
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:09 PM
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4. Grrrrrrrr !!!!!
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:09 PM
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5. I Like Well-Socialized, Domesticated Animals of All Kinds
Edited on Sat Feb-06-10 06:10 PM by Demeter
Even the humans. When I can find one, that is.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:10 PM
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7. Oh please. I have had just about every animal a person can have.
I don't buy this at all. I, of course, say that as the proud mama of 2 dogs.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:16 PM
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8. *snort* that's impossible.
for all the obvious reasons.

maybe in the UK...

:hide:
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:17 PM
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9. hmm, i'll take my PhD and toss it when i get it...
i'm allergic to cats and don't care for them living in the house. who wants an animal walking all over your counters and getting in the cabinets? gross. who wants an animal pooping in the house? not me, because i'd have to clean it.
give me some tough barn cats any old day and i'm stoked.
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:18 PM
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10. how's about bunny enthusiasts?

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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:01 PM
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29. We have IQ's off the scale.
:)

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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:14 PM
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38. Well yes, a large negativer number can be considered as
off the scale as a large positive number
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:19 PM
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11. poppycock. Absolute nonsense.
I have a cat, whom I adore. I've had dogs. I've had skunks. I've had chipmunks and raccons and parrots and gerbils and guinea pigs...obviously, I grew up as a rural kid.

I've found animals of all kinds to be wonderful companions. I suspect that another of the reasons that the more highly educated pick cats is that they live in urban areas...not the best environment for dogs, always.
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:19 PM
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12. Cat "owners" eh?
No such animal. :rofl:
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:22 PM
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15. True. I'm a cat servant.
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:26 PM
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19. As am I
and a very happy servant I am, too :D

I even fit the profile (except for the bit about being University educated):

The study, published in the Veterinary Record journal, also found that cat owners were more likely to be older and female.


Of course, I only wait upon two cats. They wouldn't have it any other way :eyes:
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:11 PM
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72. Me too.
And I welcome the demands of my feline overlords. :patriot: :loveya:
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:24 PM
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17. My kitty rules the house.
This is Daisy. She is getting a brother tomorrow, as we are adopting a black little kitten named Blackberry. We shall see how she handles it, hope she doesn't go after him!
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:33 PM
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24. Cute name :)
I hope the introductions go well *crosses fingers*

My black cat still stalks the older tabby - we adopted her as a semi-feral kitten at about 16 weeks of age, and it didn't take her long to take over. She went from cowering to attack mode in about three months, and never backed down from there. Still, for the most part they tolerate each other. Barely.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 03:41 PM
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74. Congratulations on the new kitten!
Make it a slow introduction (i.e., over several weeks) and you shouldn't have many, if any, fireworks. May they be snuggling together before long.
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dragonlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 08:15 PM
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44. Dogs have owners, cats have staff
We are totally delighted to be on our felines' staff.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:21 PM
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13. That doesnt change the fact that Cats SUCK
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:01 PM
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30. I read somewhere that British cats are wimps anyway. n/t
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 08:57 PM
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49. When my mom and I went to England and Scotland
I was missing my own kids. No matter where we went, we encountered cats. We stayed in B&Bs the time we were there, and it was great. In one of our B&Bs, a farm, they had two little kittens (about 3 or 4 months old) and I ended up coaxing one of them to jump into our ground floor room the two nights we were there. We laughed going home that the next guest to have that room might be wondering why the cat wanted to get into the room!
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:20 AM
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51. Spoken like someone who has never stopped hating long enough
to be loved by a cat! I like both species, but I've noticed that cat haters often require others to worship THEM, so a submissive, fawning breed of dog appeals to them.Those who enjoy cats like giving affection as much as they like receiving it. Cats are generally a good judge of character: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_zRPWyATZw
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:06 PM
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68. Nope. Cat haters are the ones who SUCK.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 07:14 AM
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78. Only Kittens Suck... CATS LICK
eom.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:21 PM
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14. Dogs require no box to openly house their...
excrement for the household to behold..... So who's the smart pet owner? Case closed. ;)




(another "had nearly every pet possible, but I must admit--dogs rule the roost!)


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freeplessinseattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:26 PM
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41. neither does an outdoor cat
now if a dog can't get outside (to poop in plain sight of anyone passing), not a pretty sight.

(not that I am anti-dog in the least. I have enough love for more than one species)
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 11:09 AM
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61. Of course, cats won't go into that box and eat the contents. Dogs, on the other hand...
:P
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:24 PM
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16. Actually, any animal that
can get a human being to feed it, house it, play with it, get it health care, buy neat toys, and give it yummy treats, is probably way smarter than the human who is doing all that stuff.


But that's just the biased opinion of an animal lover, and "mom" to many kinds of animals over the course of the years.

:)

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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:25 PM
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18. How come there are no trained rescue cats?
Edited on Sat Feb-06-10 06:28 PM by Kingofalldems
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:33 PM
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23. They won't work or be subservient to a lesser creature like man for a pat on their head or a treat?
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:37 PM
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25. +1000
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:06 PM
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34. ...
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:28 PM
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21. Pass the butter, please....
:popcorn:
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:45 PM
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26. Only cat owners would be smart enough to think up such a survey.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:03 PM
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31. Only cat owners feel the need for this kind of validation. n/t
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:48 PM
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27. Those with university degrees are more likely to be too busy to care for a dog properly.
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quickesst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:09 PM
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37. Thanks....
"Those with university degrees are more likely to be too busy to care for a dog properly."

You would think that a professional study would have taken this simple fact into consideration. Goofballs.
quickesst
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:59 PM
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28. Huh? " Unlike dogs, cats require no walking and can manage with little human company.
Not my cats! If I don't take Puck on a daily "walkie" she throws a fit, and they absolutely mob me when I come hom after just being away for an hour or two. They CONSTANTLY want attention, petting, play, treats, you name it. Though it's true that I don't own dogs because they do require more of a time investment-at least if you intend to have a really HAPPY dog, which is a must!



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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:17 PM
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40. What IS that animal?
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:18 AM
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60. I guess that's an unintended consequence of leash training.
She needs her walk just like a dog! :D
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:03 PM
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32. So President Obama is dumber than a cat owner!
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:12 PM
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73. I think the allergic daughter (forget which) is highly allergic to cats, moreso than to dogs.
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david13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 04:13 PM
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75. And it's the daughters that have the dog, not Obama. Obama couldn't
be smarter? I think quite a few of us think Obama is smart, but that he COULD be smarter.
dc
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:05 PM
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33. I am currently the servant of two cats, and have served in
that capacity for many more.

I have come to the conclusion that cats have one, singular, important function: They are on the planet to convert expensive canned cat food into smelly, foetid poop.

That is all.
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:29 PM
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42. You forgot making sure that black clothes are never worn. n/t
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 08:29 PM
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46. Except for black cats.
They exist to make sure white is never worn after Labor Day - or before it either.

I have a black-and-orange tortoiseshell cat. Her black hairs stick to my light clothes and her orange hairs to my dark clothes. It's amazing how even their shedded hairs are still clever and evil.
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 08:48 PM
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48. I have a black cat, three tuxedos, a tortie, a calico, a gray and white, and a tabbie-and-white cat.
Edited on Sat Feb-06-10 08:50 PM by superduperfarleft
And a dog.

I should just quit wearing clothes.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 08:57 PM
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50. Yeah, no point in wearing clothes, or having cloth furniture either.
On the plus side, if you just learn to spin, card, and knit, you'll never have to BUY clothes either!
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:07 PM
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35. I have 2 dogs and 2 cats.
One of my cats is the neediest creature I have ever seen in my life.
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michreject Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:07 PM
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36. They ain't no trufh to this
My kiddy Kat agres wiff me.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:14 PM
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39. They're just more well-trained.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:29 PM
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43. "more educated people tend to work longer hours"
So much for education, huh?

:P
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 08:20 PM
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45. Cats aren't owned. They own humans.
But my dog thinks I'm his owner.

Big difference. And I love both dogs and cats.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 08:30 PM
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47. Note they say 'educated' and not smarter :)
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:24 AM
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52. Correlation is not causation
I'm smarter than your average whatever, but it wouldn't be fair for me to have a dog. I'm not home to take it out or take it for runs.

When I have a dog, I prefer larger ones but they make poor lap warmers.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:30 AM
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53. If cats were clever they'd shit outside.
A good dog will be with you through thick and thin.

Die for you and comfort you.

Dogs win. Hands down.
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david13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:42 PM
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65. "If cats were clever ... " Why do you think there is some
advantage to that? Is that what you do? Are you one of those not yet accustomed to indoor plumbing?
My cat will come inside, even if he is outside, to use his box. ? Just like I do. If I am outside and I need to use the bathroom ... I come inside. Why wouldn't my cat? Cats are not uncouth barbarians, you see.
dc
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 04:24 PM
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76. Cats get to go to the bathroom inside the nice warm house and that's not clever?
The question is why aren't dogs smart enough to do that?
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Brewman_Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:31 AM
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54. Of course, the cat agrees
dogs love you because they have to, cats love you because they want to.
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 03:14 AM
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57. Dogs love you because they are part of the family
Cats tolerate you because you pay attention to them.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:48 AM
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55. I wonder if they'd find the same pattern between working dog breeds and lapdogs?
Also, I wonder if the "longer hours" distinction would be better thought of as an indoor/outdoor distinction? Beyond that, do the people who are more likely to have dog pets also have barn cats that they don't consider pets?

This sounds like a rural/urban dichotomy to me - and they inappropriately blur 'education' and 'intelligence'.

(FTR: I have two cats and a Ph.D.)
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 03:01 AM
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56. I'll believe cats are smarter than dogs when I see a cat leading a blind person around n/t
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:25 PM
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64. and not just in to traffic, again!
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 03:27 AM
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58. Cats are Republicans because they are "cunning and selfish".
Dogs are Democrats because they are protective, friendly, and work in groups (packs).
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 10:13 AM
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59. Au contraire:
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:09 PM
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71. Liberals are more likely to be cat owners than Republicans.
Republicans tend to need dogs to slobber all over them to prop up their sense of importance.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:03 PM
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63. More educated, huh?


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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:44 PM
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66. You have to be to stay one step ahead of them.
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:55 PM
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67. Cat owners IQ's higher than dog owners?
.
To the cat owners: The flippant insouciance of the initiator's
comportment leads one to postulate that mayhaps he/she is
possessed of an overly discriminative if not purely idiosyncratic
worldview, no?
.
.
To the dog owners: Fulla shit, innit?
.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:07 PM
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69. Educated people are probably more likely to live in small city apartments
while less-educated people are probably more likely to live in the suburbs or country.

There are demographic reasons why educated people would have cats instead of dogs.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:08 PM
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70. No surprise here!
The stupidest people I've known have tended to be cat haters. Cats threaten their shaky little wannabe macho egos.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 06:10 AM
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77. Their criteria of "intelligence" is a university degree. Fail.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 09:55 AM
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79. Hitler, Napoleon, and Mussolini hated cats.
Hemmingway, Twain, and Lincoln loved them.

Just sayin'...
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 10:02 AM
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80. So if I own neither, does that make me a moron?
:rofl:
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 10:14 AM
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81. Yes.
Anyone who doesn't own a cat is a moron. End of story.

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