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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 05:24 PM
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Poll question: TV has sucked since...

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Sans Culottes Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 05:28 PM
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1. The day
the FCC got involved.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 05:32 PM
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2. Hello.
Welcome to DU! :hi:
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Sans Culottes Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 06:45 PM
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5. Thanks, bigwillq!
:hi:
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 05:35 PM
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3. ...Will & Grace ended.
The last truly funny show out there, although The Big Bang Theory has potential.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 04:17 AM
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53. Will & Grace still runs, and I still watch it
I agree, it was a fantastic show.

The Big Bang Theory is one of my favorite shows, I absolutely love it.
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Jkid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 06:39 PM
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4. The day that reality tv became popular and infested cable tv
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Va Lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:45 PM
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6. I think we have a winner!!
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:30 AM
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7. Ding! Ding! Ding!
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:31 AM
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8. You win the thread,
:thumbsup:

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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:33 AM
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9. Even without reading this thread, that was my first thought.
What we need to replace it is surreality-TV :D
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 03:06 AM
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16. +1
You've got it! x(
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 04:29 AM
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20. He shoots! He scores!
Reality tv is a classic oxymoron.
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1gobluedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:14 PM
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32. We have a winner!
Exactly what I was going to say.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 03:32 PM
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37. That's certainly one of the landmarks in the slide toward suckage
Yes, indeed.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:44 AM
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10. TV's no different than anything else
Ninety percent of everything is crap. (Sturgeon's Law)
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:29 AM
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12. I just LOVE disproving "absolute truths".
.
ONE HUNDRED PER CENT of my crap is crap.
.
.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:01 AM
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11. It's gotten better as time goes on.
When I was young, we had one channel that went off the air after the late news. Today, I can watch channels covering whatever I'm interested in at the time and at anytime of the day or night.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 03:47 AM
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18. and that's a good thing?
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 11:31 AM
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58. I would postulate,
you're not interested in all that much, then.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:58 AM
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13. 1653 BC. (nt)
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 03:00 AM
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14. Since The Incident
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 03:04 AM
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15. "Night Court"/"The Cosby Show" went off the air. nt
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 03:17 AM
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17. There's plenty of great TV.
Plenty of good British TV. And some decent stuff here and there in the states.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 04:19 AM
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19. I'd go further.
I'd put Lost, Six Feet Under, Arrested Development, Mad Men, Weeds, The Sopranos, Breaking Bad, 30 Rock, Dexter and Battlestar Galactica in a top 20 shows of all time list and all of them are from the '00s.

TV sucked in the 80's and 90's. Then it got better when HBO and Showtime got into the field and started recruiting writers, directors and actors from films.

Most reality TV sucks, but The Amazing Race and Biggest Loser are both watchable and even have moments of real profundity.

If you don't watch TV on principle, I respect that. But to say '00 TV is worse than '90s TV is just silly.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:42 PM
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34. I agree, the 90s was a lost decade aside from a handful
of shows, the Simpsons and Seinfeld come to mind. There are probably a few others I'm not remembering right now.

I think that there are a fair number of good shows on right now. And some that I hear are good but I'm not watching (I don't have cable or a lot of time).

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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 06:21 AM
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21. Since the beginning of time.
I am sure that if the ancient Egyptians or the Mayans had had TV, it would have sucked - and the Mayan's schedule would have ended in 2012.

mark
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 06:28 AM
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22. Survivor began.
I hate reality TV. I much prefer the idea of life in a fantasy alternate universe where we have a Democratic president, I can afford to live in midtown Manhattan on a $25k salary job and a goonie bastard like me can marry a Hollywood starlet.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 06:44 AM
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23. Downhill since Carol Burnett came down the stairs with the curtain rods poking out of her dress.
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 06:45 AM by Captain Hilts
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 08:07 AM
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24. I disagree with the premise. Some of tv has always sucked, some has not.
I tend to chose to watch the tv that doesn't suck. There's always something to watch.
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 08:14 AM
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25. Since 4 or more channels appeared
When there was only 2 or 3 channells producers had to really think about what to put on.
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 08:20 AM
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26. Rob Lowe left the West Wing.....
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 11:43 AM
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27. commercials took over sports broadcasts
Used to see a football game and it took @ 2 hours. Now it is 4 hours mostly commercials. College basketball takes a TV timeout every 4 minutes for 4 minutes. On and on........
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mochajava666 Donating Member (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:43 PM
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28. TV has sucked since the Sopranos ended
Best TV series since Twin Peaks
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:45 PM
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29. So, for those with such high standards who insist TV sucks...
just what form of information or entertainment do you find acceptable? Or is it just another case of anonymous snobbery again?

In the past year I've noticed every form of entertainment from "Pants Off Dance Off" to grand opera, with every conceivable legal variation in between. And you don't need cable to get a lot of the better stuff, although you do need it to get the worst.

Information? Well, for starters, I've seen the formation of the universe recreated, an interview with Fidel Castro, and how pioneers found water.

So, if TV sucks so bad, how DO all of you TV haters spend your time oh so productively?

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Jkid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 08:40 PM
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44. Anything other than TV.
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 11:37 AM
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59. Great cinema
Great books
Good books
Increasing my harp-playing skills
Increasing my fiddle-playing skills
Increasing my Photoshop skills
Increasing my political awareness via the Web
etc...
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:00 PM
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30. The day you couldn't change to channel or shut it off.
:shrug:
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:01 PM
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31. -around 1948 or so n/t
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:41 PM
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33. Since "Cleopatra 2525" went silent.
:cry: :rofl:
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 05:48 PM
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41. A moment of silence for those who were great and dearly departed.
Remember when it was paired up with that "Bruce Campbell as a masked pirate in 1801" series? Ah, those were the days.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 05:57 PM
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42. Yeah...a complete mis-use of Bruce.
:cry:
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RT Atlanta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:49 PM
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35. Coy & Vance ruined the Dukes


just dont match with:

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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 03:11 PM
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36. I would say since it was invented.
%$#@ you, Philo Farnsworth!
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 03:34 PM
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38. There has always been bad TV, but I began drifting away when
WWF wrestling appeared on all the channels.

The media began treating Survivor and American Idol and all the other fakey "reality" shows as Subjects of Importance.

Sitcoms began consisting entirely of people shouting unfunny insults at each other

Dramas became concerned exclusively with doctors and lawyers.
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 06:14 PM
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43. "Dramas became concerned exclusively with doctors and lawyers..."
ADD:

"...very little of which they show concerns the actual practice of law or medicine."

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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 02:01 AM
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52. You nailed it there
I find myself watching PBS Masterpiece Theater more often and TCM because the quality of some older movies are pretty high compared to what's on TV these days. I was a big fan of SNL for years but the last few years it's become way too much about potty humor, body fluids, etc., so I stopped watching. I refuse to watch the dance shows. And I miss Johnny Carson.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 05:40 PM
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39. Since the X Files ended.
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 08:54 PM
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46. That's about when I stopped watching, too.
There are no hour-long dramas that I watch anymore. The last sitcom I watched was "Malcolm in the Middle".
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 05:46 PM
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40. When I think of Mad Men, Battlestar Galactica, Lost, Saving Grace...
I regret not having a TV. I think TV's always been about 90% crap. A hundred years from now that ratio will still be a constant. The relative suckage level has not altered over time.
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JTG of the PRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 08:46 PM
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45. TV has kind of sucked since Battlestar Galactica ended last year.
Sigh. At least I still have Fringe to fill my sci fi needs. :)
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existentialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 08:58 PM
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47. "Amusing ourselves to Death"
It has always substituted canned remote "entertainment" for actual dialog and discussion, and dance and locally produced drama. It continually substitutes an artificial and trivialized vicarious experience for reality.

People watch and discuss fictitious people's "lives" and watch others participate in sports instead of living their own actual lives and getting a little exercise of their own.

How has this not always been bad? How has it not substantially contributed to American intellectual (and moral) decline?

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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 09:44 PM
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48. Something about increasing the number of channels made aspirations lower.
I have a couple hundred channels available to me, and none of them are interesting. Nobody even tries.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 11:23 AM
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56. "I got 13 channels of shit on the TV to choose from" - Pink Floyd - "The Wall"
You can multiply that by 100 but you've still got shit.

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NoFace Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 11:55 PM
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49. Gimme the remote. TVLand, Torchwood, Sci-Fi Channel, Sundance, IFC...plenty of good stuff here still
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 12:07 AM
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50. The Cowboys lost in the playoffs.
Although it got good again the next week when the Saints won the NFC Championship. :rofl:

Face it, if you can't find something you like on TV's brazillion channels these days, the problem sure as hell ain't with the TV.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 01:03 AM
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51. since phil hartman died.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 11:25 AM
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57. Hartman did the voice of the cat in the movie "Kiki's Delivery Service"
I think that was his last role.



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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 05:40 AM
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54. Other.
Since Hitler showed his ugly mug during the broadcast of the 1936 Olympics in Berlin.
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 07:56 AM
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55. I dunno really
I think the tv shows Big Bang Theory, How I Met Your Mother and Glee are really well written. The writer's strike really gave them that extra kick of inspiration.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 03:33 PM
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60. Infomercials
and Paid programming filled up the schedules.
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