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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 02:12 PM
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Why would any of you root for Manning and Co.?
I know we will have another two weeks of relentless ballwashing from the ESPN crowd, but there's no good reason for any of you to support the Colts over the Saints:

1. Manning is a right-winger; he donated serious money to Corker during Tennessee's last Senate campaign.

2. Manning has been sued for being a sexual harrassing dickhead, having stuck his junk in the face of a female Vols trainer (the taxpayers of Tennessee settled that one for $300K).

3. He throws his teammates under the bus. Say what you will about Tom Brady, Brett Favre, or Kurt Warner, they never blame a loss on Randy Moss, Adrian Peterson, or Larry Fitzgerald.

4. He has whored out and endorsed pretty much every product up to and including Colon Blow Breakfast Cereal.

5. He plays for the most sanctimonious franchise in sports; the Colts bloviate about being "classy" while cranking up the heat in the visitor's locker room while a flu virus was going around the Patriots, used canned crowd noise on repeated occasions, and saw their team president scream "break his leg" when a Colts pass rusher was chasing Tom Brady, a stunt that nearly got him banned from the Gillette Stadium press box.

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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 02:17 PM
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1. hated Manning since he was a Vol. I was hating him before it was cool
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 02:18 PM
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2. Coming from a Patsie fan, I'll take your comments with a grain of salt.
Got any links to your assertions???
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 02:34 PM
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4. As a matter of fact...
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:38 PM
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53. You're stretching it a little by calling it "teabagging".
Unless you define mooning someone as teabagging.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 02:22 PM
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3. Well, the argument could go the other way
Last night, Poppy Bush and his lovely wife Cruella were special guests of Tom Benson, the owner of the Saints. So, like I try to mention to the folks over at Sports Forums, you need to keep out the politics from sport. The other reasons you have may be good ones, however. I have heard about numbers 2 and 4 (obviously), but numbers 3 and 5 are new to me.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 02:50 PM
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5. I agree...lets just root against the Bolts b/c Payless is a sanctimonious dick...
keep politics out of it.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 03:18 PM
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12. That's the Dolts
the Bolts are the San Diego Chokers Chargers.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 04:14 PM
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16. Nope, Bolts, as in bolting from Baltimore!!
:evilgrin:
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:04 PM
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23. Hey, this is DU. Politics MUST be inserted in EVERYTHING!
No exceptions.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 09:39 AM
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39. Don't worry, it always is!
:P
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 02:56 PM
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6. Because I like the Colts better than the Saints?
And the Saints aren't exactly, uh, saints either when it comes to right-wing associations.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 03:03 PM
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7. I root for Eli as I am a Giants fan
Eli seems to be a classy guy.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 03:14 PM
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8. Makes me glad that I live in New England and get to root for Tom Brady.
Edited on Mon Jan-25-10 03:15 PM by Jennicut
Manning is puke worthy. And the owner, Bob Kraft, has given tons to Dems over the years.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 03:18 PM
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11. Well besides having a problem with monogamy.
Tom Brady is no better or worse than anyone else in the league.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 03:21 PM
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14. He does not throw his other players under the bus
He totally backed up Moss when there were attacks on him. Face it, Manning is the kind of guy who is used to getting what he wants in life.
Not that it makes the Saints any better. Most of the NFL is overrun by conservatives.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 04:03 PM
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15. Brady doesn't posture the way Manning does
Brady is actually a very private guy, and doesn't try to come off as the paragon of all that is righteous. Manning and his squeaky-clean image is a tiresome farce.

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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 06:26 PM
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19. Thank you.
I have a whole other list of quarterbacks that I like way more then Payton Manning.
My husband got me into the Patriots about 10 years ago and I am that is the team I am loyal too though.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 09:40 AM
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40. Well, I like EVERY Quarterback better than Payless Manning...
...even Bret Favor I'd take over him.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 11:27 AM
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44. I'm from a "mixed marriage"
I'm a lifelong Patriots fan, my wife is a Saints fan. We "converted" each other to a certain extent, so that we root for each other's teams as long as they aren't playing each other.

On Saturdays, it's all about the Arkansas Razorbacks for both of us!
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 03:17 PM
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9. Just because he's a republican doesn't mean he's a bad person
Joe Gibbs is a RWinger but he's also one of the nicest, most classy guys in the NFL.
Can we just STOP stereotyping people who don't share our political beliefs? Thank you.. :banghead:
BTW, there are many much more jackass franchises..Like the Baltimore Ravens whose fans continue to be hypocrites and bash the Colts while having a franchise that behaved exactly the same way.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 04:17 PM
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17. SNYDER!!!!
:evilgrin:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 06:36 PM
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21. ?
Not used to you being the reconciling type, but :applause:
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:06 PM
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25. Well, stereotyping based on political beliefs is a cherished past time here at DU.
That's just the way it is.
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 09:45 AM
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42. Or DC fans....
....who moaned and complained about Baltimore keeping them from getting a MLB team of their own, while all along attempting to block Baltimore from getting an NFL team. :P :P :P
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 03:17 PM
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10. 6. See below.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 03:19 PM
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13. Art Modell.
I guess two wrongs make a right? You need to face the fact that y'all did the same thing to Cleveland. That franchise hasn't been competitive since it was "restored". At least the old Browns got to the AFC Championship game.
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 09:47 AM
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43. Baltimore isn't the reason that the Browns II have sucked.
And the fact there is a Browns II called the Cleveland Browns, as opposed to what--the Cleveland Steamers?--is call enough for Cleveland fans to quit their bitchin'.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 05:04 PM
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18. GO COLTS,ALL THE WAY.
I didn't know you personally knew Manning. Small world.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 06:29 PM
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20. SAINTS, BABY! ALL THE WAY!
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 06:47 PM
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22. You just made my list, Buddy.
I'll be cheering for the Saints, not against someone.

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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:06 PM
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24. Using Your "Logic", Why Are You A Sox Fan?
Curt Schilling anyone?
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:31 PM
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28. He retired
so there. :P
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City of Mills Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 06:27 PM
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56. Schilling's a Yankees fan
At least that's what I hear around these parts...
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:18 PM
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26. Because some people can separate the player from the man.
I am a Vikings fan so Im pissed, but, I can't stand all the Saints love. The only reason half the people like them is because they feel bad about Katrina. Love New Orleans if you want but the Saints are over rated and got lucky in the win over the Vikings and are filled with just as many douchy people as any other NFL team. New Orleans is an awesome city, if you want to support them visit it, go to their restaurants their bars or donate to a local charity. Do not act like you are an honorary cajun or whatever a lot of people do. As an Alabama Alum I have hated Manning for a long time but he is the best QB ever. No debate. Sure he may be a right-winger and all that and for that I dislike his politics and his personal views. On the other hand he is an amazing player and his commercials are funny. I am pulling for the Colts because I dont like the Saints. Maybe just to piss off all the Saints fans I know but whatever.
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:44 PM
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27. I am too
I hated what the Saints did to Favre (they deliberately injured him so he couldn't play well, the helmet into his leg was bad sportsmanship). There were two touchdowns that should NOT have counted (his knee touched the green before the zone, and knocking over that tip of the orange pole without touching the end zone doesn't count). I saw several first downs that shouldn't have counted as well, but the Saints kept challenging and winning those challenges.

I am supporting the Colts because of the Saint's behavior on Sunday. I watched the game online (neutral site) and all the commentators agreed that the Saints were playing dirty tricks.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:33 PM
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29. No debate?
Edited on Mon Jan-25-10 10:34 PM by KamaAina
Montana, Unitas, Bradshaw, Staubach for starters.

edit: Throw Marino in there, too.
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 11:59 AM
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46. I'll take it
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 12:02 PM by JonLP24
Manning-%64.8, 50,128 yards, 366 TD-181 INT, 7.7 YPA

Joe Montana-63.2, 40,551 yards, 273 TD-139 INT, 7.5 YPA(Manning tops these numbers)

Johnny Unitas-54.7 40,239 yards, 290 TD-253 INT, 7.8 YPA(Manning has the better completion percentage and TD-INT ratio but Johnny's YPA is very impressive considering the completion percentage.)

(This is a joke)Terry Bradshaw-51.9%, 212 TD-210 INT, 7.2 YPA(Manning tops these easily, you would have been better off listing Otto Graham, Steve Young, Bart Starr, many others)

Roger Staubach-57%, 22,700 yards, 153 TD, 109 INT, 7.1 YPA(Manning, easily)

Dan Marino-59.4%, 61,361 yards, 420 TD, 252 INT, 7.3 YPA(Manning wins why? Marino has 1,827 more pass attempts which explains the more yards and TD's and Manning still has some years left. If you take Manning's 7.7(if he continues at that pace) and times it with Marino's career pass attempts-(8,358)-it comes out to 64,357 yards. I'm sure he's on pass to pass Dan's career TD totals as well. You can make a strong case for Marino for sure but you gotta figure the better completion percentage and better yards per pass attempt)
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:27 PM
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50. And Manning is not done.
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 02:30 PM by bamacrat
Probably has atleast five more years.

On edit:

Brett Favre: 62% completion, 69,329 yards, 497 TDs, 317 Int.
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keroro gunsou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:00 PM
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31. the viqueens lost because
1 - stupid penalty
2 - favre threw up another INT.

that said, both teams played amazingly. it really was anyone's game. he who fucked up the least, won.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 11:31 AM
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45. "Honorary Cajun"?
Actually, I'm New Orleanian by marriage. My wife's family is one of those old New Orleans families that has been around since Andrew Jackson had that little scuffle over in Chalmette.
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:25 PM
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49. You know who Im talking about then.
The people who say Nawlins even though they are not from there have no cajun let alone french blood in them. The only thing they really like about New Orleans is Mardi Gras and think that because they went there once and got shit faced they are an honorary cajun. Real people from there who are cajun or a New Orleanian can do it all they want, its fun to go there and hear the people talk and a great place to people watch. But, I don't visit Boston and all of the sudden love chowda and drop every r in every word. Same as when people dont visit the South and automatically want to have sex with their family. That hurt a bit since I am from Bama. And only know of one or two family fuckers.
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:40 PM
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30. Ummm,,,,,,because I live in Central Indiana?
I was 15 when the Colts came to Indianapolis. At that time I was too busy cheering for the Bears to notice. After I moved to Indiana, I became a Colts fan. It happens.

GO COLTS!!!
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:07 PM
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32. Who or what is "Manning and Co."?
And why would I or would not be "rooting" for them? Isn't that what hogs do when looking for truffles? :P
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nolabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:45 PM
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33. Who Dat Nation gon' break dem Colts! Who dat?
Actually Saints fans are really conflicted, since Archie Manning was the closest thing to God in Mississippi before he joined the Saints early on, and equally loved in LA. But that was long, long ago and N.O. is more than willing to hand them their hats and show them the door. With the game the week before Mardi Gras, if the Saints win there is going to be a bender in the Crescent City the likes of which hasn't been seen in a looooong while. I hope it confirms everything Pat Robertson thinks about us (even though I'm typing from far away these days).
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 03:47 PM
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60. And I knew many conflicted Saints fans last Sunday because
they were playing Favre.
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 07:31 AM
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34. Because I am a Vikings fan and want them to thoroughly crush the Saints
I am very sick of the NO hype. Bread and circuses. (Of course the media would just hype something else if it were some other team).
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1gobluedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 08:39 AM
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35. I've disliked Peyton Manning since he was in college
And cried like a baby when Charles Woodson won the Heisman -- "B-but, that's why I came back for my senior year!"

He and most Tennessee fans still think he deserved it even though Woodson played both sides of the ball and on special teams for an undefeated team that won the national championship. Yet he got death threats from Tennessee.

That did it for me. Plus I love everything Drew Brees has done for NOLA and he's from the Big Ten. Go Saints!
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 08:48 AM
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36. not me
I hate the mother fucker. He is an egotistical POS.

that's all
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revolution breeze Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 09:01 AM
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37. COLTS =
C - Count
O - On
L - Losing
T - The
S - Superbowl
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:26 PM
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48. They won it 3 years ago
And once when they were in Baltimore. If you want to pick on a team who is winless in the SB, try the Vikings, who have a stellar 0-4 record in the game, and haven't been since 1977.
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:29 PM
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51. The Colts won one Super Bowl.
Super Bowl V in 1971.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 03:16 PM
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54. Nope
They beat the Bears in Super Bowl XLI, unfortunately.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs06/series?series=...
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 09:34 AM
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38. Same reason I turn up Stranglehold when it comes on.
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 09:45 AM by Iggo
I can separate the politics from the performer.

(For you young'ns, Stranglehold is a song by Ted Nugent that was very popular when I was in High School back in the mid- to late 70's.)
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 09:43 AM
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41. How about the fact he plays for the Indianapolis NFL Franchise?
That alone is totally worth rooting against him.

That being said, the dude is a seriously talented quarterback. But the mere fact he plays under an Irsay and the media talks about him being the "greatest Colts quaterback since Johnny Unitas" gives me reason to root for the Saints.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:24 PM
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47. That's very fascisty of you
Let people pull for whoever they want.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:33 PM
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52. GO COLTS!!
They're going to beat the Saints like red-headed stepchildren!
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 11:22 PM
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57. Nice to another Colts fan
Lonely as we may be.....

:hi:
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 03:21 PM
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55. Who Dat?
Geaux Saints!
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Mudoria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 02:47 PM
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58. Manning is one of my favorites..
Wouldn't matter who was playing really I'd be rooting for anyone other than the 'Aints...


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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 03:42 PM
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59. Dude, lighten up. I will be rooting for the Saints, but I
like the Mannings. Archie is from around these parts, and I know many who know him and Eli. I don't know any of them personally. I don't care if they are all republicans. It is football. I am rooting for the Saints because this is their first SuperBowl not because I don't like Manning. I actually laugh at some of the commercials he is in.
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Paper Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 05:59 PM
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61. To keep peace in the family. My son-in-law is a huge Colts fan.
Besides, Payton Manning is cute.

I'm from MA so think Tom Brady is cuter.

Too bad for out Patriots. Maybe next year.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 06:07 PM
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62. Well Brady is cuter.
But the Mannings all just happen to be awesome in football. The oldest one would probably have had a career in football if he hadn't been diagnosed with some spinal thing. It is just in the genes.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 06:27 PM
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63. Attention Dolts fans...
I'm keeping track here. Santa knows who's been naughty and who's been nice...
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