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OrwellwasRight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 01:08 PM
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Red Dawn in a really crappy movie.
It came out when I was in middle or high school, but I never saw it. All my friends said it was so great. I just watched it on G4 instead of doing my laundry or going to the grocery story like I was supposed to. And you know what?

Poor lighting, poor sound quality, weak character differentiation, lame special effects, unimpressive dialogue.

I mean, other than a cool premise, it pretty much sucked in the execution phase.

Thoughts?
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 01:16 PM
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1. Thats what makes it a classic
I am not looking forward to the big budget remake however.
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OrwellwasRight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 01:26 PM
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2. Who would the enomy be in the big budget makeover?
Afghanistan, Iraq? That wouldn't be believable. I think it would have to be China.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 03:12 PM
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6. Yeah, I'd say either China or generic terrorists (nt)
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 11:47 PM
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11. But China was on our side in the original.
One of the best exchanges in the movie:

Kid: "Who IS on our side?"
Pilot: "800 million screamin' Chinamen!"
Kid: "I thought there were a billion screamin' Chinamen."
Pilot: "There were."
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 01:47 PM
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3. Let me put it this way: the movie was made by John Milus
John Milus is the real life person the Walter Sobchek character from Big Lebowski was based on

Nuff said
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OrwellwasRight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:19 PM
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4. Even geniuses have craptastic failures.
Eyes Wide Shut
Mars Attacks
Plan 9 From Outer Space
Troy
RV
War of the Worlds
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:23 PM
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5. You don't understand - John Milius had nothing to do with Lebowski, except he inspired Sobchek
If you look at his film credits, you get the picture

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0587518 /

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OrwellwasRight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 10:09 PM
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7. Conan the Barbarian
Got it! I think. . . :dunce:
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 10:27 PM
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8. It's so bad, it's good.
Just like "Road House".

:hi:
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 11:57 PM
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12. No, Road House was so bad it was awful.
Feces-flinging awful.
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OrwellwasRight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 11:37 PM
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18. I agree.
Although Road House was ridiculous, if I recall correctly, at least it had a soundtrack, and professional lighting.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 10:44 PM
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9. My thought is that you're crazy!
Red Dawn was 80s gold!

"Wolverines!"
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 10:52 PM
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10. It's a terrible, yet *awesome* movie.
:hi:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 12:12 AM
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13. maybe you were supposed to watch it twenty six years ago
ya know?
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OrwellwasRight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 11:38 PM
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19. Best theory I've heard yet! Nt.
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 12:16 AM
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14. Well that might be true, but I got one word for you
"WOLVERINES!!!!"


:hide:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 12:20 AM
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15. pure 80`s paranoia.....
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travelingtypist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 12:45 AM
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16. I was in the Army stationed in Germany when this came out.
I loved it, watched it over and over and over. I especially liked the girl who fell for the
pilot. I understood that really well.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 02:48 AM
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17. It's a great movie. I saw it way back in the theater.
The action was there. Where Rambo II had only 1 replica Hind helicopter, Red Dawn employed 3 replica Hind helicopters.

Freaking cool.

Wolverines!
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OrwellwasRight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 11:40 PM
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20. Maybe it translates better on the big screen.
Because i found it just couldn't hold my attention. I wanted more action, more plot, more C. Thomas Howell.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 07:21 AM
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21. It was during a pretty wild time during the Cold War, I remember clearly
I was stationed in Texas then, we had invaded Grenada the year before.

One time, the Air Force sent a propaganda team to the base and we all sat in the base theater to see a presentation/briefing about how bad the Godless Russians were. There was even one guy dressed up in a Russian uniform and he was telling us all about the Commie's wonderful motivation behind their efforts to scare the living shit out of America.

Reagan's Pentagon had thrown out a bunch of lies about the so-called effectiveness of Russian missiles, all so they could sell Star Wars to the rubes.

And St. Ronnie his damn self was scaring up the folks about how the Sandinistas were about to roll into Texas.

Then we had Red Dawn...


Boy, were those fun times.

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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 07:27 AM
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22. It's the most shining example of Reaganesque paranoia-driven triumphalist propaganda
Edited on Tue Jan-19-10 07:27 AM by Rabrrrrrr
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 07:41 AM
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23. It scared away any Central Americans who were thinking about invading
the U.S. of A! Ask Ronnie!

:sarcasm:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:46 AM
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24. I think just invading local high schools
:shrug:
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:34 AM
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25. dammit
You can tell I've never seen it, right? :hide:
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:46 PM
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26. Also, bears shit in the woods.
:7
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