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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 08:14 PM
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Godwin's Law and the Lounge
1. Godwins Law
See below for full explanation. I wonder what the average GD thread length is before reductio ad Hitlerum' is invoked. My guess is 12. I went there last night and left after 30 seconds.



"The most famous of all the internet laws, formed by Mike Godwin in 1990. As originally stated, it said: "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1." It has now been expanded to include all web discussions.

It is closely related to the logical fallacy reductio ad Hitlerum, which says Hitler (or the Nazis) liked X, so X is bad, frequently used to denigrate vegetarians and atheists.

Common Godwin's Law appearances include describing women's rights campaigners as feminazis, comparing the former US President George W Bush to Hitler, or saying Barack Obama's proposed healthcare reforms are the new Holocaust.

In its broader sense it can be used to describe any situation where a poster loses all sense of proportion, for example describing New Labour as Zanu-Labour after Robert Mugabes Zimbabwean political party Zanu-PF.

As well as the descriptive form, it can be used prescriptively: so if any poster does mention the Nazis in a discussion thread, Godwins Law can be invoked, they instantly lose the argument and the thread can be ended.

If this is done deliberately to end the argument, however, it does not apply. This codicil is known as Quirks Exception. "
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 08:20 PM
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1. Nice post, Hitler.
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 08:21 PM
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2. Exactly. We are much faster on the trigger than GD.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 08:42 PM
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3. You're just asking for a New Holocaust, aren't you? nt
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 08:51 PM
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4. Don't Make Me Invoke Law #10!!!!!!!!
10. The Law of Exclamation
First recorded in an article by Lori Robertson at FactCheck.org in 2008, this states: "The more exclamation points used in an email (or other posting), the more likely it is a complete lie. This is also true for excessive capital letters."

It is reminiscent of the claim in Terry Pratchett's Discworld novels that the more exclamation marks someone uses in writing, the more likely they are to be mentally unbalanced.

According to Pratchett, five exclamation marks is an indicator of "someone who wears their underwear on the outside".
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 08:54 PM
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7. THAT'S AN OUT-AND-OUT LIE 1)! 2)! 3)! 4)! 5)!___N/T
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 08:52 PM
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5. you facist, commie, hitler-loving, stalin-worshipping bastard!
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 08:54 PM
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6. You are clearly a sane and reasonable person in that you didn't violate Law 10 (see above)
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 08:56 PM
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8. There are eighteen Internet laws listed on rationalWiki
Edited on Wed Oct-28-09 08:58 PM by pokerfan
http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Category:Internet_laws

Learn them, know them, live them.

ETA: Except one, I see....
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 08:59 PM
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9. No. There are ten and I now invoke Law 7, aka Pommer's Law
7. Pommers Law
Proposed by Rob Pommer on rationalwiki.com in 2007, this states: A person's mind can be changed by reading information on the internet. The nature of this change will be from having no opinion to having a wrong opinion.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 09:01 PM
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10. You've changed my mind; there are only ten laws
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 09:15 PM
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11. Ok. I never gave it much thought, but after reading on the internets now know its 10
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 09:49 PM
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12. Fucking great. Another REICH WING poster on DU!
:hi:
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 07:38 AM
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13. Godwin's law was invoked with the first response....
proving that we are superior to GD, where it takes many more posts to reach reductio at Hitleram. Your thirteenth response is below the hair trigger reaction time expected in the Lounge, please try to work on that.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 08:10 AM
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14. Godwin is a National Socialist.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 08:12 AM
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15. Nice post, Kitler.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 08:16 AM
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16. Kathi has a problem with your post.
"Ohh POOR CAT!!!How can make people a homepage like this....ITS TERRIBLE!!!

bye

kathi"


"Oh shut up Kathi. Why poor cat? Does anybody harm this cat? I'm half german, my grandfather is a jew and I still love this site."

http://www.catsthatlooklikehitler.com/cgi-bin/seigboard...
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 08:23 AM
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17. I think we have a winner. Please no more phone calls.
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