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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:56 PM Original message |
Am I wrong to be offended by prayer in the workplace? |
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backwoodsbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
1. most of the time they dont bother me...but |
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HopeHoops (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
2. I've been in that situation. I scoot my chair back and let the sheep reach through my spot. |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. This is so typical of Christians (especially here in Texas) |
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HopeHoops (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Back in 83 or so, I worked for a place where "EST" was a requirement for advancement. |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. ha, ha, ha... that's funny! |
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hamsterjill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:09 PM Response to Reply #6 |
52. I hear what you are saying. |
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Pool Hall Ace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
3. Hmmm . . . I don't know |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. The thing is this is a state office building. |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:32 AM Response to Reply #5 |
36. these fundies--how annoying they use any excuse to put their |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
4. I used to work in a small office with a fundy boss who did that. |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Ha! I used to work at a homeless shelter that that did that. They asked me once to offer a prayer. |
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Chemisse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Excellent! |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:16 PM Response to Reply #11 |
48. Love it! |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
7. You are never wrong to feel what you feel. |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
8. "Thinking" about going to H.R.? What are you waiting for, another prayer circle? |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
10. Sounds like you're an outlier |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:04 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. And I sort of feel that if I make waves, I will never get anywhere. |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:20 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. If you don't mind my axing, how'd you end up in a town you feel so out of sorts with? |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:37 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. For my job. |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:08 PM Response to Reply #13 |
25. + 1 |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #13 |
81. "I am an atheist living among the religiously insane" |
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rcrush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
12. Is there usually an anonymous number you can call? |
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BuelahWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
14. No, you aren't wrong, it's not appropriate |
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abq e streeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
16. not wrong whatsoever--and this coming from someone who prays every night |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
18. Do you feel pressured to participate or that there will be a negative impact on you? |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
21. From someone who used to work in HR: |
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pink-o (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
22. Unfortunately, as I found out the hard way, the 1st amendment doesn't hold at the workplace. |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:56 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Well I was thinking all I have to do is show up late to these things. |
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pink-o (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Oh, hell no. Not cowardly at all--in these days we need to keep our jobs |
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hippywife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:03 AM Response to Reply #22 |
61. I believe there is protection |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
24. i did some work down in Clear Lake at NASA back in the 90s |
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elshiva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
27. Please go to HR. No prayers at work, at least no audible, public ones. |
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seemunkee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
28. My boss did something similar |
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Dyedinthewoolliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
29. I don't think you are wrong. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
30. No, those people are freaks. Watch your back. nt |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Well they are freaks but not in a good way. |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:31 AM Response to Reply #31 |
40. Erect a huge phallic statue in the break room.... |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
32. Prayer circle jerks should be saved for OUTSIDE work. |
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GoddessOfGuinness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
33. In this case, I'd say no |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
34. No you are not wrong. |
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astral (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
35. What's wrong with just bowing out and not participating |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:52 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. "Ask them, if you dare." |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:00 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Because it forces people to declare their beliefs or lack thereof |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:47 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. That's how I feel about the issue |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:13 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. What you've described is a classic case of illegal religious discrimination |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:55 AM Response to Reply #35 |
43. I'd be uncomfortable being reminded that my coworkers were irrational |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:08 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. "Prayer allows people to feel important and involved while |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. Self delete |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:40 AM Response to Original message |
37. No, and it's fucking stupid for the employer to condone it |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:36 AM Response to Original message |
41. They're doing it wrong. |
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emdistortion (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
44. I'm religious but even I would be offended. |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
46. Yes, you're wrong--unless you DON'T work in a cathedral......... |
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LeftyFingerPop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
49. No, it is not "wrong", you believe what you believe after all, however, |
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newcriminal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:17 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. +1 |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #49 |
63. What they did was certainly in poor taste, if not actually against the law. |
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newcriminal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 12:04 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. I'm talking about here in the lounge not necessarily at work: |
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LeftyFingerPop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 12:19 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. What would have been wrong with doing the following? |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
50. I get offended by public prayer |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
53. Your headline is kind of ambiguous - private prayer is one thing, forced public prayer another |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:10 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. The laws are federal |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
54. No, you're not wrong. |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
56. What workplace? This was a retirement party, and only... |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:18 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. The OP was specific that the activity happens in the workplace |
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astral (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 01:17 AM Response to Original message |
59. there is no forced prayer in a group of people who want to pray |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 04:17 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. The part you're missing is this is a work environment |
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hippywife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:13 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. If it takes place in |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:39 AM Response to Reply #59 |
64. You absolutely do not get it. |
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hippywife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. I work in a similar environment |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 11:07 PM Response to Reply #64 |
75. Can you email the head office about it? Anonymously. |
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gbate (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #64 |
80. I have been in this situation. It really is better to just stand there and not say anything |
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MissMillie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 12:48 PM Response to Reply #59 |
69. I think that businesses, as well as schools, should avoid |
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astral (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 10:54 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. That is exactly what I said you (the group you) would say |
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MissMillie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #74 |
76. I think it can be VERY harmful |
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MissMillie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
68. I think it's fine for you to be offended |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
70. yeah, esp if 1. it's a govt workplace, and 2. not everyone is a Christian |
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Beer Snob-50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
71. i wouldn't be offended by it |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
72. i've done this before when people do stupid shit like that: |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
73. certainly it is inappropriate at work |
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gbate (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
77. It is wrong to assume that everyone prays. However, sometimes you have to suck it up. |
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keroro gunsou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
78. i wouldn't be offended |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
79. It's bad enough when peers seize on a captive audience to demand lip service to their faith... |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
82. Not unless you work in a church or other place of worship. |
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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
83. I went to a blood drive at my workplace and a tech was singing |
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