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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 10:44 AM
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Jetski or Seadoo (not sure where this goes)
I am looking ino purchasing a Jetski or a Seadoo this fall when the clearance sales start.
Need some help on a purchase, I have two kids 12 and 9 and I want to be able to pull a tube.
I don't know what it the difference between a Jetski and a Seadoo, but I bet someone on DU does.
Thanks in advance for your help.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 10:50 AM
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1. Aaaaaaaaaaaargh!
I hate those things. Goddamn nuisances that absolutely destroy the tranquillity of the lake.

Hey you kids, get that fucking thing off my lawn lake!

OK, so I'm a curmudgeon. Make what you want of it.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 10:51 AM
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2. "Gigadittoes on the lake thingy." - J. McCain (R)
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 10:53 AM
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3. Me, too. Hate 'em.
Edited on Mon Sep-07-09 10:56 AM by The Velveteen Ocelot
Nice quiet day on the lake, maybe you're relaxing, fishing or sailing, and some asshat comes roaring by on one of those things. They seem to like to cut as close as they can to slower boaters, apparently just to deliberately disturb them. Loud, nasty things.

If you want water fun that actually takes some skill, buy a small sailboat and have the kids learn to sail. It would be cheaper, less annoying and less polluting.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 10:57 AM
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6. Hey, I won a tag in the hunting Jetski Lottery!
Edited on Mon Sep-07-09 10:57 AM by havocmom
Been trying for years, finally got my tag. Wanna come hunting with me? :evilgrin:

Can't wait to mount that hood on my den wall, right over the fireplace. Yep, so satisfying to know I made the world a little quieter.

Someday, I'll get an ATV tag and have a complete set of dead annoying vehicles on that den wall!

Edited for clarity
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 01:16 PM
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17. I really didn't want to get into (i.e. admit) the homicidal impulses those things
arouse in me.

But yeah. Count me in. Just remember, they're fast, so you have to lead them quite a bit.
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Po_d Mainiac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 01:32 PM
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18. Been pushing for
Edited on Mon Sep-07-09 01:33 PM by Po_d Mainiac
"no closed season, no bag limit" on the obnoxious machines for years! :grr: Add snowmobiles to the list also!
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 10:53 AM
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4. Besides contributing to climate change, they both make a lot of noise,
and have ruined many water-related vacations of mine. Not much difference between the two, IMO.

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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 10:54 AM
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5. I'm not a big fan of them either...but
The main differences between the two... Both are brand names of personal watercraft, but both also are often used in a generic sense for PWCs.

Jet Ski is Kawasaki and generally refers to the standup type. Seadoo is generally known as the sitdown type (like a snowmobile for water).

Beyond that, I don't know much else about them.

I'd suggest a kayak for water fun, myself.

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The River Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 11:10 AM
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10. Kick
for human powered watercraft.
Canoe or kayak is the way to go.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 11:06 AM
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7. http://www.electricseadoo.com
http://www.electricseadoo.com
Not sure exactly when these will come out :(


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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 11:07 AM
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8. Heh. That'll teach ya'. No fun allowed at DU.
If you want advice on just how scared you should be of rw'ers (really scared or terrified or too petrified to leave your house) then you've come to the right place.
I'm not a jetski guy, but I do know that this isn't the right place for advice.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 11:09 AM
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9. New PWC are neither loud or dirty environmental global warming evil..(useful information in post)
they run 4 cycle motors and are on par with outboard motors for sound pollution. There is little difference in the products major design now. They all have the riders in a sitting position and run an impeller. That layout makes them able to turn and accelerate quickly. Not making high speed passes near others is an operator choice.

That being said they are not designed for kids to operate, they reach high speed and can and do have fatal results with operator error. Their cost runs from 9000 - 15000 new.

If I had three people to move around I would look for a used inboard/outboard boat. Ski or ski fish setups are plentiful due to motivated sellers. They are more comfortable and do more. Toting 2 people around on a jet ski will get annoying. Dealers will have CPO boats with warranty.

All these vehicles have maintenance schedules and require shop time, I suggest you follow them. If you are mechanically inclined you can do some work yourself.

Nautique makes great inboard boats and we have found them to be reliable. They are fun and very very fast. There are lots of boats that are similar in design that may be in your price range. A nautique will last years and hold value pretty well. You will need a place to store whatever you buy.

Be sure you have a safe tow vehicle. Even a jet ski should be towed behind a vehicle in good working order designed to tow, not a civic. A boat requires a bit more, crossovers may cut it, however a truck or truck based vehicle (4 runner, etc) will do the job best.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 11:14 AM
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11. I think you should look into one of those sail powered jetskis.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 11:19 AM
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12. This is what you want.. Trust me.
Edited on Mon Sep-07-09 11:20 AM by Pavulon
22' of badass. 50mph top end. 450HP 8 cylinder engine and room for you friends and and your cooler. I get teary eyed just thinking of the fun we had on these things. Would be out there today but it is amateur hour on holidays.


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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 11:22 AM
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13. I bought a stand-up jetski about 15 years ago.
Edited on Mon Sep-07-09 11:30 AM by tridim
That's the extent of my knowledge. It's an 84 Kawasaki 550, bought used for $400. The thing is unbelievably reliable for a 25 year old vehicle. It starts right up every season.

My parents have two sit down skis and they're fun for a day or two, but quickly get boring. I still ride my stand-up model all the time, because it's a challenge, and it's fun, and you can do tricks on it. The only issue is that it tends to break/sprain lots of toes. I've never broken mine, but two friends have on their first ride. :)


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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 11:43 AM
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14. Jetski is a standup craft, Seadoo is a sit down craft (like a motorcycle)
I had Waverunners (the Yamaha version of the Seadoo) 15 years or so ago. I had a LOT of fun with them. And being in Florida, it was nearly year-round use of them. Easy to maintain, easy in/out of the water.

If you want to pull a tube, you're going to want a Seadoo and you'll want to make sure it has some power.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 11:45 AM
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15. Let me offer some data here, not reproof...
Edited on Mon Sep-07-09 11:49 AM by ProgressiveProfessor
Jetski has become a generic term today. It referrers to single rider standup machine. Great fun, but not useful for tubing. Not sure if they are even made today, it was down to one manufacturer last time I looked. Seadoo is a brand of sitdown (vice standup) though it tends to be generic these days for what are also called runabouts. As a group standups and sitdowns are called personal watercraft or PWCs.

Rules for water skiing or tubing include all people have to be able to get aboard the towing boat. There also has to be a spotter aboard with a flag. This can vary by state, so check your state regs. That means a 3 place boat. Some states also have age restrictions on who may operate a boat and where PWCs may be operated. Check into that as well.

A new 3 place is some serious coin, even on sale. You may be better off with a used power boat.

Finally and most importantly take a boating course. It may be mandatory, and if its not, it should be. Way way way to many people get a boat and then blast off with it, having no idea how to handle it and what the rules of the road are. Have your 12yo take it with you. Its a fun family activity.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 12:02 PM
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16. I've never ridden either, but I've never seen a tube pulled behind a jetski
I'd also guess that a sit-down model would be better at keeping kids on board.

Really, I'm just posting to air my pet peeve: dive flags aren't slalom markers! Stay at least 50' away. (Also, no wave jumping when surfers are in the water...) :)

Have fun!
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