GRATEFUL DEAD=Best Dylan cover band evah!

[Bennyboy]

Tangled Up In Blue http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHlqEOCsovw

It's All Over Now, Baby Blue http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1AFFQ8zn60&feature=PlayList&p=12D38C6F33B9EAC5&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=92

From RollingStone: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/11216877/the_modern_times_of_bob_dylan_a_legend_comes_to_grips_with_his_iconic_status/4

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He expands on the explanation he offered for "Blind Willie McTell": "Strangely enough, sometimes we'll hear a cover of a song and figure we can do it just as well. If somebody else thought so highly of it, why don't I? Some of these arrangements I just take. The Dead did a lot of my songs, and we'd just take the whole arrangement, because they did it better than me. Jerry Garcia could hear the song in all my bad recordings, the song that was buried there. So if I want to sing something different, I just bring out one of them Dead records and see which one I wanna do. I never do that with my records." Speaking of which: "I've heard it said, you've probably heard it said, that all the arrangements change night after night. Well, that's a bunch of bullshit, they don't know what they're talkin' about. The arrangements don't change night after night. The rhythmic structures are different, that's all. You can't change the arrangement night after night — it's impossible."

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[no name no slogan]

1. These guys would beg to differ...

[mitchum]

4. Absolutely true, but Deadheads have trouble hearing...

arguments

[Bennyboy]

8. Gotta love the haters....

When you have seen 1/5 of the music I have seen then let me know. The one thing about being a deadhead for me is the different types of music that I have been exposed to through the GD canon. And how I heard them do it and explored that style of music.
jazz, Musique Concrete', country, Tribal drumming, rock all of it is in there, all profoundly GRATEFUL DEAD. even last week they brought some techno/house into their show and guess what, it was incredible. And sounded like GRATEFUL DEAD.

Nobody, but nobody, does shit like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BBa9bNyCns

[no name no slogan]

10. I don't know if it's hate so much

as it is the fact that the Byrds got their start out of Dylan covers. And not just covers, but re-interpretations. Their versions were literal re-inventions of the songs. Their "Mr. Tambourine Man" is nothing like Dylan's; nor is their "You Ain't Going Nowhere".

Covers are cool. Reinterpretations are something else entirely.

[mitchum]

12. I thought one "hears" music, rather than "sees" it...

but I guess that's because I'm a musician.
I really like all of the musical elements that those smug Bay hucksters drew upon- rock, jazz, free, musique concrete, blues, country, etc... but they just didn't execute it very well. And if you have truly checked out the original sources, I don't see how you can't agree.
The Grateful Dead sell an identity, not art.

[BlueJazz]

15. Amen to that.

[Bennyboy]

7. The Byrds were great....

But in terms of sheer numbers, the Dead wins out. The Byrds did a few, the Dead and Jerry Garcia Band did hundreds of Dylan songs.

[lazyriver]

2. Tough call for me...JGB covered Dylan pretty nicely...

Simple Twist of Fate, Part one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbXg3ZuJ7-k

Part two
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nluf1xfN1-I&feature=related

Tangled up in Blue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILhXlJp2hqE&feature=related

[mitchum]

3. I guess that's why the record company asked record stores not to give the release...

any instore play when they did that live record together in the hopes that it wouldn't hurt sales?

Granted, they are better at being a cover band...

[NightWatcher]

5. Dont you remember the Summer 87 tour?

I'd kill to go back for a select few years on tour and 87 would be one

[Bennyboy]

6. I saw a ton of those shows and funnily...

They did not work well for me. the Dylan at the end thing was weak sauce. Seemed almost anti-climactic. I prefer my Dead and Dylan without Dylan myself.

Which is even funnier, because I thought the Dylan/Tom petty and the heartbreaksers tour ws incredible. But Dylan popped up throughout the show mixed in with TP and the H....

[Mike 03]

9. Oh no. Is this a satirical post? Have any of you heard the Dylan and the Dead CD, from

their tour together?

Jesus God. It is absolutely Dylan's worst (or perhaps second worst album), and it is not flattering for the Greatful Dead either.

That is one of the few albums I actually listen to for the pure purpose of laughing. It was a horrible tour, a horrible album, and the GD cannot do Dylan.

[belpejic]

11. Huh

The '87 Dead/Dylan show I saw at JFK in Philly was pretty hot. And I have the bootlegs to prove it. Great performance of Joey.

[Bennyboy]

13. The Dead couldn't do Dylan......with Dylan.

They covered him just fine, but The way the sets were set up on that tour (as Dylan as the leader of the band)it just did not work with them together. For me it was like Dylan was holding the band back, and some the songs that were usually incredible live (watchtower)just did not have the musicality behind it that it used to have.Some of those shows werer pretty stellar though.

But the record (dylan and the Dead) is pretty bad, more representative is "Postcards From The Hanging" with Live GD Dylan covers. Queen jane. Masterpiece, Desolation Row,and a ton of others.http://www3.clearlight.com/~acsa/livedate/postcard.htm

[belpejic]

14. Benny, I think you're right

It was just cool watching Jerry play pedal steel in '87, particularly for those of us who were too young to catch him live in the '70s. Nothing for me beats '85 GD covers of She Belongs to Me. Or any version of Visions of Johanna, even in '95. And of course JGB barnbreaking versions of Tangled Up in Blue.