American Idol Reaction Thread... (SPOILERS INSIDE)

[jefferson_dem]

My opinion: America fucked up...

But that's ok. Adam will dominate.

[Justyce]

1. America fucked up when Danny left.

Now... meh.

[motely36]

2. I think he will do very well for himself

I'm just sorry he din't win

[GreenPartyVoter]

77. I think Adam and Alison will both do very well, AI title or no.

[blue_onyx]

3. I thought Kris would win

Adam will be fine.

[Kahuna]

31. I did too. Kris did better last night, IMO. Kara's stupid song did Adam in...

The only good thing about it is that Simon is pissed. :applause: He didn't get either his Gokey or Adam. Poor dear. :nopity:

[blue_onyx]

52. I thought Adam did a little better

All Kris really had to do was perform about as good as Adam (or better) and he would win. Kris has broader appeal which is what I think pushed him over the finish line.

[Kahuna]

68. Adam's descent down that staircase in that coat was a bad idea..

It was too "theatrical." It's like he was a participant in "Broadway Idol," instead of American Idol. His last trip down the staircase ended him in the bottom two. I don't know why it would work this time. :shrug:

[LakeSamish706]

55. No, Adam won last night... He has the much better voice and range... n/t

[ecstatic]

117. keep in mind that not everyone is into rock music

The performance with KISS tonight was a little dated, IMO.

[pdx_prog]

178. No, you are wrong....

Adam doesn't have any warmth to his voice whatsoever. Technically he can hit high notes all night long but lacks personality and originality in his voice. He could have won the rock star show hands down....

[mvd]

142. I thought Adam would win, but I never counted Kris out

I knew he was becoming more popular and yet flying under the radar. He must have gotten many of Danny supporters' votes. I also knew the producers might not want controversy, so if there is manipulation on the show, we'd see it here.

Only thing I'm happy about is that Danny didn't win. Kris is ok; he had some solid performances mid-season and then got on the bland side again near the end. I'm sure Kris is a nice person.

[Dappleganger]

4. Vanilla won.

But then again, America tends to like the same again and again and again.

[merh]

5. the last 4 contestants will all do fine

[bigwillq]

6. Adam was better.

But the people spoke.

Adam will be fine, and he's not limited to being under contract with them for a year. He's free to do his own thing. It worked out well for Daughtry.

[vard28]

AND

Adam won't have to sing that STUPID SUCKY song, as I posted in another thread.

[bigwillq]

14. That is true.

:)

[merh]

48. don't bet on that contract freedom

I would bet you that Simon signed Adam up already - he saw what he lost when he didn't get the Daughtry contract

[BarenakedLady]

7. It was a mistake

IMO. Adam is the better vocalist/artist/performer.

[ecstatic]

8. Simon is partly to blame

With his heavy handed endorsements.

[rucky]

43. Simon looked disappointed at the results. n/t

[DatManFromNawlins]

64. This played into part of it

The entire time they acted like Lambert had won the competition and that Allen should be so happy just to make it to the finals. This had to piss a lot of people off, and they like to play spoiler.

Also, Gokey had a lot of fans who had to decide where they placed their loyalty, and Gokey's style isn't the ultra-pop goofiness that Lambert portrays.

[K Gardner]

9. That was a jaw-dropping travesty. Unfreakingbelievable. How did that happen?

[Stephanie]

16. The fundies organized, that's how

[jefferson_dem]

23. Gokey's pastor even got into the game, and requested all "believers" vote for Chris.

Disgusting lot, they are. But their bigoted breed is dying out.

[blue_onyx]

34. Kris seems like a nice guy

He and Adam also seem to be good friends. I don't think Kris would approve or want this kind of support.

[Kahuna]

53. When Kris made the top 13, for the life of me I didn't see what anybody

saw in him. Then week after week, he was steady, original and entertaining. And a real sweetheart to boot. He just grows on you. I'd much rather that Kris won in lieu of Adam than that pompous, cheesey, no talent hack, gokey. The contrast between, Adam, Kris, Allison and Gokey is night and day.

[Left Is Write]

114. True. Better Kris than Danny.

[Left Is Write]

113. I agree with you. I don't blame Kris at all for what some of these fundie groups did.

And he and Adam really are good friends.

I believed and still believe that Adam should have won, but I don't hold it against Kris.

[ecstatic]

119. No...the real culprit is dialidol.com that lets the teens

vote hundreds if not thousands of times for their favorite. The "fundies" probably had little or no effect on the results. Voting once or twice for your favorite is pretty much a waste of time, so I don't bother anymore. I say this as an Idol viewer since season 1. What's ruined the integrity of Idol is the power dialing systems (and unlimited texting).

That being said, a lot of people genuinely preferred Kris' style and one shouldn't assume that a Kris fan is homophobic.

[Stephanie]

10. The first thing Kris said: Adam deserved it

I think it will actually be better for Adam's career not to be the winner of American Idol. You know?

[Dappleganger]

18. You're right...

and it's good that there's a history of that happening so Adam will know for sure he'll do better than ok. I'm really looking forward to hearing him perform HIS music rather than American Idol's.

[jefferson_dem]

19. Chris' humility makes this screw up a bit easier to swallow.

He seems like a genuinely good guy and will do the AI franchise proud, vanilla-style (as another poster in this thread put it).

[grace0418]

152. Absolutely. He won't have to record that piece of shit song that Kara wrote.

That "song" made me want to vomit.

[Mad_Dem_X]

165. True - Adam will have a long career

But I am still angry he didn't win. Fucking fundies.

[graywarrior]

11. I just caught the ending and having never watched it, I have to say the guy that won

bored me to shutting the tv off.

[Inspired]

15. That says it all.

[K Gardner]

27. This really SHOULD be the end of that idiotic show. There was a manifest, HUGE difference in talent;

and the most highly talented lost.. because a block of people who didn't like his sexual preference formed a voting mandate against him?

At least, that's what I assume happened.

[graywarrior]

29. I never heard him sing.

[Stephanie]

33. Videos here >

http://www.rickey.org/

[graywarrior]

45. At least he's not boring

[Stephanie]

32. That was the plan

But I doubt they had the block votes to sway 100M votes cast.

[ohheckyeah]

87. They found software that circumvented

the time limit and let them vote for 3 extra hours.

[Dappleganger]

36. WTF do you mean

sexual 'preference.'?

I tried to get through to vote for him last night but each time it rang busy, so gave up. AI is a farce, anyway...Adam is the first singer to be on the show who had the entire package from the beginning.
He's a star and will shine a long time.

[Stephanie]

47. It would be better to educate than to castigate

You could inform the person who clearly is on the right side of the issue what the correct term is.

[Inspired]

12. At least he doesn't have to sing that stupid song Kara co-wrote.

[lost-in-nj]

13. high five

I agree

:fistbump:

lost

[femmocrat]

17. I'm stunned.

Idol has finally jumped the shark.

[LakeSamish706]

20. America really Fucked up tonight.... Adam Lambert was clearly the more...

talented.... This is so much bullshit...

[ruggerson]

21. exact same reason Brokeback lost to that forgettable piece of garbage

[K Gardner]

37. I don't even remember what won that year. But I still watch Brokeback over and over. Same

will happen here.

[QC]

50. It was a Lifetime Thursday Night Movie sort of affair called Crash. n/t

[Mad_Dem_X]

166. Ding-ding-ding!!!!!

People will embrace Adam and he will be remembered for years to come, just like Brokeback.

[CBR]

46. Crash was pretty good and pretty important in its own right. nt

[ruggerson]

49. it was a tv movie of the week

[CBR]

62. OK. IMO neither Brokeback or Crash was best that year but they

both were very good. I feel bad for both Adam and Kris -- both just want to sing and yet they are being assigned to politics. Kris never knew he was or asked to be the red state candidate.

[ruggerson]

66. Some Fox station in Arkansas is reporting that ATT says

30 million votes came from there

[CBR]

70. He is from there -- of course they voted for him. Look, there

are some people who voted for him because of this but he himself -- Kris Allen -- has done NOTHING to deserve ire. He seems like a nice guy as does Adam. They both will get deals and Adam will probably do better.

[ruggerson]

81. I agree

I'm not referring to Kris, I'm referring to the people who voted for him.

[rzemanfl]

22. Not as surprising as the "election" of 2004, but Adam will be the

star and Kris will be the ex-Idol.

[Rhythm]

24. There's a zillion reps waiting for Adam with contracts in hand... can't wait to see what he does

He won't be constrained by AI's sucky contract crap (or that lame-ass song), so he can do his own thing.

And his own thing kicks ass...

[mvd]

25. There are a million Kris Allens IMO.. only one Adam Lambert

I'm stunned and wonder if the poster who says it is fixed is right after all. Only silver lining is that Adam will start with a single that fits him. :hi:

[ohheckyeah]

41. truly. How many Kris Allen's have we seen come and go? n/t

[ohheckyeah]

26. It's the last time I vote.

What a joke. The one bright spot is Allen is stuck singing trite bullshit A.I. pop/ballads while Adam will be much more free to do what he was born to do - rock n roll.

Adam kicked ass singing with KISS.

[mvd]

28. I might be done with Idol

Thought this year was SO calculated and manipulated.

[K Gardner]

I know you're right, but it still sucks. Anyone notice that Simon remained seated after

the announcement?

[ohheckyeah]

40. I did notice and yeah it sucks the big one. n/t

[jefferson_dem]

30. That was one for the ages and a sign of what's to come from this guy.

He will be a dominant force in the music biz for years to come.

Must be a dream come true for him too - singing with Kiss and Queen the same night!

[K Gardner]

35. Dominant force AND Iconic, I believe !

[ohheckyeah]

39. We're due for another great rock star. n/t

[ohheckyeah]

38. Did you see how happy he was?

I bet singing with KISS and Queen was something he dreamed about. I so hope he gets a contract for rock and roll. I'm so sick of ballad and pop music.

[mvd]

44. I think Adam will do extremely well.. as several non-Idols have

I'm just not sure I see the point of the show anymore. He could have tied Kelly Clarkson for best winner, but the winners don't seem to mean much now. I might as well do something else and after the season evaulate the albums.

[blaze]

65. Adam will do just fine!

And that's one of the things that is just fine, for me, about this show.

Maybe he didn't win (hasn't aired here yet... but I think I get it) but his talent is out there. He WILL get a recording contract because his talent deserves it.

Maybe he didn't get the golden "title" but he WILL make a living at making music. Something he might not have been able to do without the show.

So it's all good.

And. I totally enjoyed the pairings tonight. Idols/Stars. Thought they were very good mixes.

[mvd]

72. It's just there's not much in the title anymore

So I don't know if I will sit through week after week anymore. I loved the Adam/Queen pairing - that rocked!

[blaze]

99. Yeah, but what does the title really matter

if you end up with a recording contract after the deal?

Somebody gets a gold star by their name.... but someone with true talent (Adam) will do just fine because he's received the exposure he needed to be heard and recognized.

A chance he might not have had without the show.

I'll watch again next season.

[mvd]

102. That's precisely the reason I might NOT watch

To each his own. :hi:

[blaze]

104. LOL

:hi:

[mvd]

107. I might start the show and watch until the top 12/13

But the title seems to have less influence each year.. and it seems America just doesn't pick good Idols anymore (3 in a row I haven't agreed with) and/or the producers influence it. I figure that after the show, I'll know about the true talent anyway. :hi:

[mvd]

108. Actually 4 in a row

Liked Katherine more, but thought Taylor was good.

[undeterred]

42. Kris is a babe, but Adam has a better voice.

Remember that the biggest voting bloc is young teenaged girls, so it really shouldn't be a surprise that Kris won.

The thing is, winning American Idol means they get to control your career for a year. I actually think its better to be in Adam's position. Maximum visibility, and he is free to start doing his own thing tomorrow.

Good on both of them.

[LakeSamish706]

51. I guess I really Fucked up tonight by posting in GLBT the results... Damn...

I feel really bad, forgot that even though I am on the West Coast, I have some early channels..... Hope they forgive me there... ugh.

[Imperialism Inc.]

54. This was the first year I have ever watched the show. We all voted for Kris.

Though Adam had the better voice it was just a matter of style. He seemed to only have one gear. Falsetto ballads, even if that wasn't what the song was. For us it came down to the fact that we didn't think we would want to listen to a whole album of Adam but would of Kris. That said, in tonight's show Adam showed more of a range and , ironically, if we had to vote based on tonight we would have voted for Adam. Adam will get a record deal no matter what though so he'll be fine.

[DatManFromNawlins]

56. Hardly

The better singer last night won the competition. It's that simple. And when Lambert learns that screeching like a cat caught in a blender is not singing, which he will when he can get some professional handlers around him when he starts his solo career, he'll be fine. And Allen, as his voice matures, will only get better.

[underpants]

57. Southern contestants always do better

I was watching for the first time-Adam was amazing. Some Elvis in there some Bono but seriously the shoulder pads? My daughter said (I am NOT kidding) "He's a FAIRY!!!"

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[Lavender Brown]

74. wtf?

[lilyreally]

88. Yeah...sad but true...

[Dappleganger]

63. And both my girls yelled...

"We want those BOOTS!"

Really, a fairy?? OK, my girls are huge anime freaks so perhaps that's why they don't go there.

Now, off to try to find some of those boots for dd's b-day.

[DeepBlueC]

138. I wondered about that costume myself

But then when KISS came up in the screen with him instantly he was the conservatively dressed rocker.

[underpants]

160. Right, that is what I told my wife

we didn't watch Kiss the little one was up late as it was and we didn't want that imagine with her as she went to bed

[begin_within]

144. Adam is from San Diego,

which is at latitude 33 N, and Conway Arkansas is at latitude 35 N, so San Diego is more southerly, and believe me, San Diego is the south. I live in San Diego and it is the south.

[underpants]

161. Okay but it is the THE South

what I meant was the traditional meaning of "the south" Kentucky (for some) and below over to the east coast. I don't think Texas is considered "the south" it is just Texas and anything west of that is not considered "the south"

That is what I meant

[Shell Beau]

175. San Diego isn't the south!

It may be technically southern, but it isn't the south. Nope not at all!

[begin_within]

180. I disagree with you.

I have lived in San Diego for 27 years, and it is the south. It is warm and humid. It is very conservative, even though it is a big city and the city core is liberal, the county as a whole is deeply conservative and the city and county are run by an old-boys network, based on the entrenched money interests rather than the public interest. Quite a few of them live in my neighborhood. San Diego is different from Los Angeles and worlds away from San Francisco. San Diego is very much The South and is more akin to Dallas, Phoenix, Houston, etc.

[Shell Beau]

182. Well I live in MS and I know nowhere in CA is southern.

Ask anyone who lives in the real south. People will laugh at the thought I swear. And TX is southwestern, not southern. Just sayin'!

[Perky]

58. Its the Deomographics of who watchet the show unfortuntately

Teenage girls text with abandon.

People who Like Adam will call or Text once.


My guess is that more people voted for Adam, but because they allow multivoting Chris pulled it out.

[Muttocracy]

84. oh, they allow multivoting? that's lame. nt

[Perky]

96. Cha-ching

[ohheckyeah]

179. Not necessarily.

I and at least 4 women I know voted many times for Adam.

[lilyreally]

59. No, there is NO SCREWUP!

America does not want a homosexual to win the title as the American Idol.

Adam could not have possibly been better. His talent surpassed everyone in the competition. He was...hands down the best performer the show has EVER seen.

His only problem was that he was born "different...???".

I'm a straight woman. I have a family full of children who are straight but none of them could hold a candle to the talent this man has. To deny him the right to win this honor is just wrong.

[DatManFromNawlins]

75. Please

Kelly Clarkson is (and was) so far above Lambert in terms of both range and pipes that it's a ridiculous comparison to make.

Both Aiken and Studdard had performances that were vastly superior to anything Lambert ever did on the show.

Nobody denied him the right to win. He didn't win because he didn't get the support, which is the name of the game and has been since the program's inception, and he didn't get the support because he's vastly overrated by some.

[Hugabear]

78. Did you see Adam perform with KISS?

Adam is a true rock star.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

173. Your statement would have more truth to it....

....if KISS was actually a true rock band, as opposed to a mediocre singing machine with savvy marketing lead by the world's biggest douchebag.

[backtoblue]

176. yep..

KISS is not my idea of a "great" rock band, either. Overrated.

[BlueJazz]

100. Oh..Come on now!...Americans know talent when they see it.

I mean, who was our President for the last 8 years? :)

Funny thing is ..Every musician I know all said that the race was so lop-sided it was ridiculous.

Reminds me of the Musician's joke.

How's the Band?
They Suck...play out of tune and play cornball phrases.
Oh..the crowd really likes them?

[Metric System]

60. I feel sick. Ugh. I don't normally watch AI and I don't really like the "talent" AI produces, but

Adam really caught my attention this year with his uniqueness and vocal ability. The fact that he would have been the first openly gay AI winner was the cherry on top. And, oddly, even though I don't really care for the AI machine, I think it would have been cool to have it working for Adam and helping him with continued mainstream exposure. Otherwise, I can see the homophobic radio industry, for example, brushing him off as too niche and out of the mainstream. As the winner of AI it would have been a lot harder to ignore him. Finally, if he had won AI, the positive message that would have sent to gay teens struggling out there would have been a good thing.

[Lucian]

67. Oh good god who cares?

In a year from now, no one will remember who won this year anyways, so what's the big deal?

And just because Adam didn't win doesn't mean people voted against him because of his sexual orientation. It's a singing contest, for christssakes. The other guy was less pretentious, imo.

[Stephanie]

71. What took you so long?

It's amazing how people love to post on topics they don't care about to announce that they don't care.

[Lucian]

76. It's a public message board.

Last I checked, anyone can give his/her opinion on any given topic.

[Stephanie]

80. I'm not disputing your right to speak, I'm wondering why you bother.

Since you don't care.

[Lucian]

89. I'm just wondering why people get so worked up over things...

that don't affect their lives at all.

[ohheckyeah]

83. Well, if you read stuff on the internet

it was definitely the fact he was gay that hurt him.

[Hugabear]

86. Are you kidding? People were absolutely voting against Adam because of his sexual orientation

Fundie preachers all over the country were telling their congregations to vote against Adam. They absolutely did not want to see a homosexual win AI.

[Lucian]

91. I thought he sucked.

IMHO. The other guy had better singing talent, from what I saw tonight.

[Stephanie]

92. Oh, so you WATCHED?

Hah!

[Lucian]

94. Well...

the family had it on tv, so I was kind of forced to watch.

[Stephanie]

98. Forced to watch and forced to post in the thread.

When you actually do care you must be an unstoppable force, if this is how you spend your time when you don't care at all.

[Lucian]

103. Do you have a stick up your ass?

Seriously. Since when did you become the Lounge Police? Maybe next time I post in a thread, I should ask for your permission first.

:eyes:

[Stephanie]

109. I've just been appointed Lounge Police!

But I promise not to taze you, bro.

[grasswire]

154. links?

If you can back up that assertion, please do.

[Hugabear]

183. I've seen your posts over in GLBT

You seem to be in complete denial that there was any homophobic anti-Adam voting going on.

You really want me to PROVE that fundamentalists were opposed to having a homosexual American Idol winner?

[pot luck]

69. Kris needs the title more than Adam.

Without it, he would have been lost in the shuffle post-Idol. Both will get signed by 19E as all final 2 contestants do, and because the producers wanted Adam to win, his album will get as much promotion as Kris’s (see Daugherty, Chris and Aiken, Clay). If Adam had won, Kris would have been as forgotten as the past runner-ups. I thought Adam deserved to win, but Kris is a nice guy, so I can't hate on him.

[Mumble]

97. 3 years from now...

..Kris will be an unknown. Adam will be famous and around for a lifetime.

[Hugabear]

73. America did NOT vote. Kris was chosen by the corporate American Idol machine.

There was no way in hell that the stiff suits behind AI were going to allow some "controversial" flamboyant gay male to be their frontperson. The first album has already been written, they wanted some radio-friendly wholesome kid with boyish good looks to be their singer. This is the reason why so many people fucking hate American Idol - it's not about choosing the best singer, it's all about image. I really feel like Taylor Hicks was a fluke - after that, the AI producers knew they had to tighten their grip in order to not allow someone who didn't quite fit their mold to win.

[mvd]

82. Could be. It's not going to work

Elvis defied them and did well, and so will Adam. :hi:

[Yukari Yakumo]

111. Yes and no...

Yes, it could have been a fix.

No, because Kris is stuck with a 1 year contract with Idol.
Chris, OTOH, is free to pick and choose from whatever deal that comes his way.

[stray cat]

168. I think Americans voting overruled the corporate goal - much like with Chris Daughtry

Daughtry was the bigger star but he got voted off

[Odin2005]

79. GOD DAMN HOMOPHOBIC ASSHOLES!!!

:grr:

[blaze]

90. Adam is, clearly, the talent here

No matter the results of the contest...

He (Adam) had, and took, the opportunity to showcase his talent and will win out in the end.

Not to worry.

In the long run, Adam wins.

It's all good.

[DS1]

93. I don't watch the show

but look at the careers of the 2nd placers, vs the winners. It can't be that bad.

[ohheckyeah]

95. I'm not gay and I'm

fuming. I'm so god damn sick and tired of these puritanical, hypocritical assholes making everything about their beliefs and their religion. Fuck em.

[Orangepeel]

85. I wanted Adam to win, but that was probably the best thing for both of them

Adam will do better with more freedom. I think all of them signed their lives away when they auditioned, but he'll probably be on a longer leash coming in second. Kris is kind of dull, so he'll benefit more from the title.

[rucky]

158. Good point. David Cook is still shilling for Ford.

they own his ass.

[begin_within]

101. The same sort of fundies and "middle Americans" that helped propel GWB into office

worked hard to get "anyone but the gay one" as the winner, as if it somehow matters...

[Metric System]

105. "Adam deserves this. I'm sorry." Come on, even the winner knows the truth. I have nothing against

Kris but I'm just not interested in him or his music. He's just more of the same vanilla that AI keeps producing year after year. It's why I don't bother watching it. As soon as Kris's name was announced I turned off the TV. Oh well, I bought all of Adam's songs on iTunes so at least I have that to comfort me.

[Left Is Write]

116. I bought all of Adam's songs too, all the studio versions and most of the live performances.

[jefferson_dem]

106. Twitter's "Trending Topics" is interesting

:popcorn:

Here they are as of right now --

American Idol
Adam Lambert
#americanidol
Queen
LeBron
Mo Williams
Kris WON
Tatiana
KISS
Adam's

[Sebastian Doyle]

110. I've never watched a single episode of the damn show, and ordinarily wouldn't care

But if the "winner" was decided in a manner more crooked than a Presidential election in Florida because of homophobic hatred, then that's really fucked up. :evilfrown:

[Muttocracy]

112. Watching some video clips (no TV) and just realized Fox is behind this stuff

So it must be all about money and their plans.

[Left Is Write]

115. The big, huge silver lining to Adam not winning -

He doesn't have to do that hideous, horrible Kara DioGuardi song!

[GreenPartyVoter]

145. Or any other Idol style crap songs. He made a name for himself without the strings attached. Ditto

for Alison. I hope they perform together again in the future. His sweet voice and her sultry one make for an interesting combination.

[totodeinhere]

118. I like both of them. And they are both cute in their own way.

And after all, talent is a subjective thing. Both of them will have great careers.

[earth mom]

120. Wake up DU! The fundie nutcase Jesus freaks GAMED the show!

A DUer-don't know if I can say who-was warning everyone weeks ago that the fucking fundies had a game plan to make sure Adam did NOT win.

Kris is a crap singer and mark my words he will sink as fast as so many of the other past AI winners have.

Man, I'm really disgusted by this shit! :grr:

[Metric System]

122. Homophobia absolutely played a huge factor in the outcome. All you had to do was read comments

online to see the homophobic vitriol being spewed at Adam. On another forum, it was reported that a previous year's contestant named Mandisa was on some LA news show earlier today and she said that all her "Christian" friends were voting for Kris. A poster on another site also reported that he was watching his local news tonight and the anchor said that the guy's guy won AI. In my mind, this was another battle in the culture war and we lost this round.

[earth mom]

124. Yep & what really pisses me off is that DUers didn't get on the bandwagon to try and stop this shit.

Like seriously :wtf: DU?!

[Stephanie]

126. 10M votes

The votes of a few interested DUers don't amount to a hill of beans in that context.

[earth mom]

130. DUers got Obama elected didn't they? I think DU is a lot more influential

than some want to admit...which is why so many people come on here and try to control the dialogue and load the place down with disinfo and bullshit.

Oh well, I shouldn't be surprised, the nutcases will never quit trying to control this country and everyone in it that's for damn sure. :puke:

[book_worm]

133. Yes, the 100,000 plus thousand DUers of which only about 1500 or so are active participants

got Obama elected.

[earth mom]

134. There were a helluva lot of people participating here during the lead up to the election.

To me, it felt like DU had been invaded by a hundred thousand or more. :yoiks:

Plus, lots of people read DU and never ever post.


If DU were a inconsequential website there would not be so much bullshit, disinfo and so many people trying to control the dialogue.

[Metric System]

135. 10 million more vote? Really? Interesting. Of course you can vote as many times as you like, so...

whether that translates into actual support when Kris's CD is released remains to be seen. I've always found it funny how there's so much hype surrounding AI and so many millions of votes for the winner, but only a couple of winners have gone on to be true superstars.

[book_worm]

132. yes, DU could have changed the result.

[fujiyama]

156. I'll admit (with shame)

that I actually kept up with the show off and on this season. I also thought Adam deserved it. Kris really sounded so generic like a million other artists on the top 20 that get played a million times on crapola terrestrial FM stations.

Adam was definitely unique and I think it's sort of naive to believe homophobia had nothing to do with him not making it. Otherwise, why would those nutcase fundies go to the extent they were in opposing him? Even O'Reilly got into the game. It was irritating though to hear that hack Ryan Seacrest making this a cultural war before the show started last night. But of course, that kind of controversy gets better ratings. I don't think either contestant deserved to be stuck dealing with such red state vs. blue state nonsense.

However, it's worth mentioning that people can vote multiple times so Kris would probably have appealed to those demographics that really get into this (ie teenage girls). And of course, Adam was the judges' favorite all along and that probably didn't really do him any favors.

Also, considering the previous seasons indication of success for the winner vs. the runner up, Adam certainly has nothing to worry about. I think he'll be around. He's got a unique vocal talent and stage presence.

[Inspired]

159. Why the shame? I readily admit to being hooked on the show this year.

And it's all because of Adam Lambert.

[grasswire]

155. could you provide some documentation for that?

because the only thing that turned up by following the links reportedly documenting this was one anonymous message on one message board.

This is turning into an urban legend real fast.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

177. I don't know.....

.....I think while there were people who may have voted for Allen (and against Lambert) on the basis of Lambert's orientation, there may have been just as many people who voted for Lambert strictly on the basis of his orientation who may have not voted otherwise. The two sides could have cancelled each other out.

In the end, Lambert may not have been as palitable to AI's core audience as Allen was. Nothing to do with orientation, everything to do with singing style and presentation.

[cboy4]

121. Did the Mormons get involved?

:eyes:

[Love Bug]

123. I agree! I turned off the TV after the announcement, I was so disgusted.

Last week when I saw the hometown crowd for Kris was made up of 12-year-old girls, I knew he was probably going to win. That's the group that is willing to sit for 4 hours hitting "redial" over and over again. Older kids and adults have better things to do.

Once again, the "cute" wins over talent. Feh. I'm done with Idol until they fix the voting system.

I think Adam has a great career ahead of him but he really deserved this win. Maybe there was some kind of backlash because for the past several weeks you could tell he was being favored.

[LakeSamish706]

127. I'm totally with you, Done with Idol until they fix the voting... Adam should have won tonight...

He is certainly the more talented IMO....

[book_worm]

131. sometimes the best doesn't win.

[book_worm]

125. I don't think Adam lost because he might be gay/bi but because it was a vote against the judges pet

First of all AI's demographics are dominated by younger more inclusive people who (I don't believe) might vote against Adam because of his sexuality. It also hasn't been an issue on the show and except for a few right wing hacks it hasn't been an issue in the mainstream media. I think he lost because it was a vote against the judges favorite. I think people like to vote for the underdog. Adam is more talented, but Kris came across as a nice guy. Also, everybody expected Adam to win so maybe his fan base didn't turn out?

[Stephanie]

128. I think it was the tween girls voting for the Tiger Beat guy

Do they still have Tiger Beat? I'm dating myself. Anyway judging from the fans in the home visits AI's a craze with little girls, and they went for the one they found the cutest. I really don't think there were enough idealogues voting to turn the tide of 10M votes. I could be wrong.

[book_worm]

129. I think that is probably correct. And I remember Tiger Beat, too.

[Feron]

136. I liked both Adam and Kris equally.

They are both talented, but they are also two very different artists. I hope they both put out a good CD although my hopes aren't too high considering that it is 19evil. Regardless I think that both will have long careers.

Kris has been gaining momentum for weeks, so it's not surprising that he won. I honestly don't think that the Christian crazies care that much about a TV show to hit redial for four hours.

Adam had been pimped by the judges throughout the season and while he is talented, I think that there may have been a bit of a backlash. Which is unfair to Adam because it isn't his fault.

[slay]

137. My reaction is

*yawn*.. is this crapfest show over yet? :P

[Moses2SandyKoufax]

139. +1 n/t

[DeepBlueC]

140. Cheer up...tomorrow it's So You Think You Can Dance

my favorite talent show.

[slay]

141. Reality shows are killing off good scripted shows cause it costs next to nothing

to do a reality crapfest. No writers or actors. I understand the addiction, but ugh.. just not for me I guess.

[DeepBlueC]

149. Dance is performance..and it is stunning

I have seen some of the best choreography - ever - in contemporary dance on this show. This isn't Big Brother. No scripts but choreography done by some of the best in the business by some performers who have been training for many years for the chance to showcase their skills. I don't think this can be lumped in with The Two Coreys.

[GreenPartyVoter]

143. Can't wait. I much prefer the dance shows to the singing ones.

[DeepBlueC]

150. I agree

Although I loved this year's AI final...it was better than the Grammys have been lately. Idol was starting to go Lawrence Welk IMO but this year I think they tried to make it more current. Black Eyed Peas ROCKED. And Lionel Ritchie and Danny Gokey...wow. And Kara and Miss Thing!!!!

[Kahuna]

162. I love that one too. Those kids are mega talented. Can't wait..

:popcorn:

[bigwillq]

181. American Idol, the concept of it

is a good idea, imo. I say this only because I feel it is so hard to break into the music business, or the movie business (either as an actor or a director), and when a show helps people break into the field of their dreams, I think it's a good idea.

Who knows, maybe some of these people would've broke into the business on their own, maybe not, but the exposure they got on the show helped them fulfill their dreams, and I think that is a good thing.

Yes, some are not really that talented, but the ones who are seem to make it on their own, even after the exposure from the show wears off.

I do think the show is overrated and overhyped, the judges are useless, the host (Ryan) is a waste, but overall I think if it can help a person live out their dream, it's not all that bad.

[Dappleganger]

146. AT&T helped rig it, too

Here's the article: http://www.nwarktimes.com/adg/national/260040/

[JCMach1]

147. WTF

:wtf:

Idiots

[Duer 157099]

148. Well that sucked. Although we know Adam will fare better without the title

but still. Even Kris knew it wasn't a fair win, and that will always haunt him I think. He knew.

Brian May looked like he really liked playing with Adam. Like old days maybe. :sigh: I miss Freddie

[Metric System]

151. Brian May's interaction with Adam after the performance spoke volumes about what he thought of the 2

finalists. He barely looked at Kris.

[soleiri]

153. well

on the bright side, I never have to see that no talent hack Gokey ever again.

[Kahuna]

167. Gokey stunk up the stage last night. One thing it proved is that, Kris

deserved to beat him out for the finale. Gokey is so lame. :puke:

[LSdemocrat]

157. Geez. Am I the only one who actually likes both contestants?

Hell, I voted for Adam, but I'm still quite happy for Kris. He and Adam seem to be genuine friends who greatly admire each other.

I wish them both success in their careers.

Their duet of "We are the Champions" with Queen was an amazing highlight of the season.

[Kahuna]

163. I like them both. How can you not like little Opie..er...John Boy...er Kris?

:D

[stray cat]

169. Maybe in the minority on DU - but otherwise I think many of us agree and wish both success

[ScreamingMeemie]

164. 38 million of the *almost* 100 million votes came from Arkansas.

There's the answer.

http://www.comcast.net/tv/eyeonidol/84521/spoilerlivebloggingtheidolfinale/

[jefferson_dem]

170. Adam fans - Go here for video of his exit interview.

A total class act - and superstar in the making - http://www.rickey.org/?p=16374

[Cannikin]

171. One person in Arkansas voted over 300 times...

Unfortunately for her, she was trying to vote for Kris but voted for Adam by mistake.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

172. Meh. Adam shouldn't have been in there in the first place.

He basically was a professional singer already through his work in musicals. He had an interesting voice but came off too pretentious and self-indulgent for my taste. He'll get an album though, and might have a good career.

Kris was boring, but if the idea of the show is to have someone who is completely an amateur win, better he win.

I lost interest halfway through the Top 12 after everyone I could see myself rooting for was kicked off.

I can still say that the only Idol contestant I really enjoyed and rooted for was Taylor Hicks. He was just a lot of fun to watch. Unfortunately, gray haired guys singing old-fashioned soul songs don't play well to a Top 40 audience, and I knew that the moment he won, so the fact he's done squat since Idol isn't a shocker to me. I still liked the guy.

[Inchworm]

174. Whoa... Kris is a dude!

Just saw it on Today... glad I accidently left TV on :D

:hi: