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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 12:36 PM
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'Jon and Kate plus 8' dad in cheating scandal - report is he's living in garage
wow. Eight kids at home and he's with a babe at a bar.

http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_27...

'Jon and Kate' Plus 8 Dad Scandal, Photos: Which Gosselin is to Blame?
By Leslie Warren
May 2, 2009

Who is to blame for the wild accusations, photos and late nights for dad Jon of 'Jon and Kate' Plus 8? Many are saying their is no excuse for a man with eight kids and a wife being out late at night with another woman. Others have chimed in and blamed Kate, saying her antics anf the way she treats Jon are just too much.

Neighbors spoke to us Weekly magazine and their cover photo showing a shocked Jon in a car with a mystery babe at a bar at closing time has everyone scrambling trying to get some sort of statement out that doesn't make either look bad.

http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_27...

he report adds, and while the two still appear together and shooting continues, whispers abound that they have actually separated. A neighbor that spoke with Us said they had heard that Jon "is living in the apartment above the garage."

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cherish44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 12:40 PM
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1. Passive men like him are usually the ones who have a huge mid life crisis
They won't divorce though, too much $$$$ to be lost
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 12:42 PM
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2. Hey, I'm passive and I'm not out boinking everyone and everything...
Still, I am in the middle of a midlife crisis, hence the evil of going back to school and being the only commie lib'rul pinko socialist in marketing class... :evilgrin:
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 07:44 AM
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28. Maybe you are and you don't know it
One of those Jekyll/Hyde kinds of midlife crises, perhaps?
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 03:39 PM
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47. And you don't consider that cheating?
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 12:50 PM
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3. Yeah, he's having some kind of crisis over his wife's career success.
Shortly after, the couple told PEOPLE that raising their children in public has been stressful for their marriage. "Kate's career is taking off and I'm a bit lost," Jon admited. "This struggle has definitely put some tension in our marriage."

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/30483027/
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 10:31 PM
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18. what career?
Just being well known? (granted I think taking care of that many kids is a full-time job, but...)


I think she's great with the kids, but I think he is much more likeable. I'm sorry to hear that their marriage is in trouble (assuming it actually is)
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 01:33 AM
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21. reality TV mom, I guess. She's happy with it. He isn't, He wants to have a regular, go to work,
job again.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 06:24 PM
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53. I thought he was a computer programmer....
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bbernardini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:02 PM
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4. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that she appears to be an overbearing browbeating nutjob
Edited on Sat May-02-09 01:03 PM by bbernardini
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:05 PM
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5. She doesn't seem like a nice person but that's no excuse for him getting out of control
Edited on Sat May-02-09 01:06 PM by Liberal_in_LA
He had an incident recently where he was flirting with and trying to kiss college students.
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bbernardini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:08 PM
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7. I completely agree.
I should have clarified that while I don't necessarily condone his actions, I can see why he might be driven to those actions.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:05 PM
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6. I have never watched the show. I have heard she can be evil.
Not trying to blame her, but I am sure 8 kids can put a strain any marriage.
Especially when you are out there for the world to see. Who knows why he strayed(if he did). Sucks because they have a damn football team to raise.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 10:33 PM
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19. I like the show, it's kind of addictive
and I don't usually watch those kinds of shows.


It's impressive just to see them maintain their sanity with that many kids. I watch in awe and gratitude that I don't have that kind of stress. Plus the kids are very cute.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 10:12 AM
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32. My mom loves that show
:shrug:

She has never told me about how the mom is mean or anything. I think she just loves watching all the little kids since she is a grandmom now.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 11:19 AM
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37. In the one show I watched, they were all taken to a place where
the kids could fingerpaint. The mom decided what colors each kid would use because she wanted to frame every one of them to use as art in the new house. That's totally taking away the kids's creativity....smacks of major control freak. The finished products didn't even look like little kids had done them because of the colors she selected. :(
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:08 PM
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8. Freak show.
Barf! :puke:
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 03:50 PM
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9. I can almost understand how someone needs to be the Order Nazi to survive sextuplets
but I get the feeling she was like that before their birth, too.

Not that that excuses him if he cheated. That was one marriage that NEEDED to survive at least until the kids reached teenhood.
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:05 PM
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10. All of them need to go away forever
I can't stand this family!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 03:43 AM
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23. This thread is the first time I've heard of them and I agree.
Kudos to him for sabotaging the family.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:19 PM
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11. Gee, raising 8 young kids while being followed around by TV cameramen
Edited on Sat May-02-09 04:20 PM by Critters2
isn't the recipe for a healthy, happy home life. Who knew?


Someone should slap the big wigs at TLC. And all the people who take their money in exchange for being part of their freak show.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:40 PM
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12. I bought that magazine yesterday and the article is really, really ugly towards Kate.
Okay, I know she can be a bit of PITA, but c'mon. She's got 8 kids!!!!!! I would have lost two or three of them by now.

I feel sorry for her. She can't be as bad as she is portrayed on the show and there's no doubting she loves those children.

It's sad all around.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 10:35 PM
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20. yeah, she is pretty cool with the kids - I can't imagine that kind of stress
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 04:27 AM
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26. Kate is an asshole , both parents are assholes who exploit their kids


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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 11:04 AM
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35. Well, it's all her fault for not recognizing his manly authority.
:eyes:

I've seen the show only a couple of times and in one she was very snippy, but I suspect that if I watched the whole series it wouldn't change my opinion on his possible stepping out -- he's the father of 8 kids under the age of 10 and he has no business exposing them to anymore public scrutiny than they're already under.

I hate the The Largeorunusual Family channel.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 03:51 PM
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48. I've only seen about 10 minutes of it, but my assessment was that she
was all business and he was a bit of a child who wanted more playtime.

Either way, I'm not a huge fan of any parents who would put their kids in this situation, but once the situation has been created I think that even the appearance of stepping out for a fling is unacceptable...
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 11:15 AM
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36. Exactly -- and, as they say, it takes two
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FedUpWithIt All Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 06:56 PM
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58. Kate doesn't raise her kids. Here is her schedule for two months.
Edited on Sun May-03-09 07:03 PM by FedUpWithIt All
HERE IS THE SCHEDULE:
West Coast Tour Dates

Tuesday, 4/14
Barnes + Noble #2303, Glendale, CA
1:00 - 3:00 pm
210 Americana Way Glendale, CA 91210

Tuesday, 4/14
Sam's Club #6240
Glendora, CA
7:00 - 9:00 pm
1301 S. Lone Hill Ave. Glendora, CA 91740

Wednesday, 4/15
First Christian Church, Huntington Beach, CA Interview & Book Signing
6:30 PM
1207 Main Street
Huntington Beach, CA 92648

Thursday, 4/16
Borders #212
Fresno, CA
7:00 - 9:00 pm
7722 N. Blackstone Ave. Fresno, CA 93720

Friday, 4/17
Borders #351
Pleasant Hill, CA
7:00 - 9:00 pm
120 Crescent Drive Pleasant Hill, CA 94523

Saturday, 4/18
Sam's Club #4835
Renton, WA
1:00 - 3:00 pm
901 South Grady Way Renton, WA 98055

Saturday, 4/18
Barnes + Noble #1915
Bellevue, WA
7:00 - 9:00 pm
626 106th Ave NE Bellevue, WA 98004
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

East Coast Tour Dates
Friday, 4/24
Southern Women's Show
Barnes + Noble #2171 on-site @ show
2:00 pm
Raleigh, NC

Saturday, 4/25
Books-A-Million
McDonough, GA
1:00 - 3:00 pm
Henry Town Center 1774 Jonesboro Rd.
McDonough, GA 30253

Saturday, 4/25
LifeWay Christian Store Buford, GA
7:00 - 9:00 pm
Mall of Georgia Crossing
3125 Woodland Crossing Blvd, Suite 2000; Buford, GA 30519

Sunday, 4/26
Family Christian Stores #428 Lakeland, FL
5:00 - 7:00 pm
3700 US Highway 98 N Lakeland, FL 33809-3809

Monday, 4/27
Sam's Club #4772
Sarasota, FL
1:00 - 3:00 pm
300 N. Cattleman Rd. Sarasota, FL 34232

Monday, 4/27
Books-A-Million
Sarasota, FL
7:00 - 9:00 pm
Gulf Gate Mall 6591
S. Tamiami Trail
Sarasota, FL 34231

Tuesday, 4/28
Borders #682,
Newport News, VA
7:00 - 9:00 pm
12300 Jefferson Ave, Suite 100, Newport News, VA 23602

Wednesday, 4/29 TENTATIVE - The 700 Club Virginia Beach, VA
Wednesday, 4/29 TENTATIVE The Washington Post Interview
for Web Site Washington, DC
Saturday, 5/2
Pennsylvania Women's Conference Bookseller TBD
12:00 - 2:00 pm
Harrisburg, PA

Monday, 5/4
Barnes + Noble #2932
Clifton, NJ
7:30 - 9:30 pm
395 Route 3 East
Clifton, NJ 07014

Tuesday, 5/5
Barnes + Noble #2255
New York, NY
12:30 - 2:30 pm
97 Warren St.

(at Greenwich St.)
New York, NY 10007

Thursday 5/7
The Today Show NYC


Wednesday, 5/13
Frauenthal Center of Performing Arts
Hages Bookstore
7:30 PM
425 W. Western Ave. Muskegon, MI

Thursday 5/14
Metro Parents Women's Expo
Bookseller TBD
Detroit, MI

They have three shifts of nannies according to recent reports. Jon purchased a condo in Utah that is too small to house his whole family. He purchased a new sports car for $40,000 (see pics of him and his "friend") and the house is in a "revocable" trust. They claim that all the money goes to the kids. Not quite true. But then neither is the coupon pinching, hands on mom and dad image they present to the public. These live off the kids they no longer seem to spend any real time with.

Edited to add...Kate has mentioned that she would like to host a talk show. :eyes:
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islandgirl808 Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:54 PM
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13. their family scares me
the over bearing wife, the passive aggressive husband...eight kids within the same age range aaagghhh :yoiks: !

i'll take the duggar family any day, they seem mild manner enough (despite their constant need to procreate).
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:55 PM
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14. Overzealous fundies vs. Jon and Kate.
:shrug:
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islandgirl808 Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 05:20 PM
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15. agh i forgot about the fundie part
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 06:29 PM
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16. How could you forget?
It's like their whole raison d'etre. They're creepy.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 03:53 AM
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24. I find the Duggars less creepy than these people.
With the Duggars, I get what's going on. It's pretty clear when one reads their website that they have guilt issues about that miscarriage that happened before any of the kids were born. Michele thinks it was caused by her use of the birth control pill. So while it's still creepy, I can understand it as some kind of attempt at compensating for that event.

This couple, I know little about but they seem very plastic and fake. Like the Pinks in SubGenius teachings.
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 02:01 PM
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44. Actually, the Duggars are having babies for Jesus
I find that more honest than having babies to get on TV or to get attention and stuff (octomom). Not that I don't think the Duggars are nuts, too.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 02:13 PM
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46. I hate to pull a Frist on them, but the babies for Jesus is putting a brave face on it.
I stand by my assessment that they still have unresolved psychological issues from that miscarriage.
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 03:53 PM
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49. Yeah, that too.
They probably believe using birth control is contrary to God's will, so he punished them by demanding they hand over their first-born.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 04:28 AM
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27. in this case the Duggars are a lot more better than Jon and Kate
watch the 2 shows and you will see a difference.
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ACTION BASTARD Donating Member (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 09:10 PM
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17. This news delights me to no end.
I love to see these freak shows crash & burn in awkward, glorious explosion.
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 10:10 AM
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30. watch one show be replaced with an Octomom show
it could be worse
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 10:11 AM
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31. Not me. There are children involved.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 03:14 AM
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22. So if you're married, you can't be in a car with anyone besides
your spouse? I guess I'm in a sh!tload of trouble.
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 04:07 AM
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25. Actually I think it was more of the Bar. Closing time. Leaving with.
1 2 3

Up to no good.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 09:26 AM
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29. ...and calling your bar friend, "babe".
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 12:31 PM
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41. What!?!????
Do a Lounge search for the term "babe" and see how many jillions of threads and posts you find. It's a common and casual term. I don't personally use it for anyone except my cat and my six-year-old nephew (neither of whom I'm sexually involved with), but I don't have enough fingers and toes to count the number of times I've been called "babe" by friends, both male and female. I don't perceive it as sexual or overly friendly at all. It's just the way some folks express endearment.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 10:23 AM
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33. I'm more focused on the fact that he looks hammered
in this pic (if it's from that bar/night)and he got in the car to drive.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 12:25 PM
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40. The woman is behind the wheel, not him, in the photo.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 10:23 AM
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34. self delete, double post
Edited on Sun May-03-09 10:24 AM by maddezmom
:hi:
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 11:39 AM
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38. I just love how, even on a progressive board, the wife is blamed for a husband's indiscretions.
yes, it's her fault. :eyes:
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 12:32 PM
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42. What's indiscrete about going out for drinks with someone other than one's spouse?
If he fucks around, he'll pay the price. But I've seen no evidence that this guy has been unfaithful -- just a lot of jumpin' to conclusions.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 02:10 PM
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45. Oh, I agree.
But even if he is/was, it's nobody's fault but his own.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 12:43 PM
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43. Not from me, my friend
Haruka and I think he sucks, and said if either of us did something like this, that would be it.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 11:44 AM
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39. I misread the thread title.
At first I thought it said "Jon and Kate plus 8-foot dad in cheating...."
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 05:19 PM
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51. Everybody knew they were swingers, that's old news.
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oregonjen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 04:04 PM
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50. Exploiting their children for money, wonder if he's dealing with the guilt
Their children's privacy being thrown out for all of us to see. Pretty sad. One of the reason they are in PA is because there are no child labor laws for children in reality tv.

Imagine how living in a fish bowl and their friends making fun of them because of what has been shown on tv for everybody to see is doing to them. I'm sure the older twins are getting it from their classmates.

The parents are living a lavish lifestyle thanks to their children. I wonder if they will ever see a penny or if the parents are spending it all.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 05:29 PM
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52. The kid's lack of privacy crossed my mind also. They'll talk about how a kid has poo in his diapers
At what age will these kids be allowed privacy?
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 06:50 PM
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55. They've done more than talk about the poo. They've shown the poo.
Edited on Sun May-03-09 06:52 PM by LibDemAlways
On an early episode Kate held up the diaper of a child with diarrhea. Nice.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 07:07 PM
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59. ewwwwwwwwwwww.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 06:48 PM
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54. They are indeed shameless. They've alienated friends and
family in pursuit of the almighty buck. And no facet of their children's lives is off limits. I hope they've put aside significant money for therapy, because those kids are going to need it.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 06:51 PM
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56. I don't know if I agree. I think they realized that they had an opportunity
to make some serious coin for a limited amount of time and took it.

The show isn't going to be nearly as popular when the kids are teens. I think they realized that they had a window of opportunity and seized it.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 06:56 PM
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57. I think they realize their shelf life is limited. However, when
the kids get older and realize that the contents of their diapers was displayed on tv, they just might have a very negative reaction and some issues to work out. Jon and Kate truly have sacrificed their kids' privacy for their own ends.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 07:09 PM
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60. But, on the other hand, if you've got 10 mouths to feed ... you do what works for you.
They probably thought the show was a way for the parents to spend time with the kids and get paid for it.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 11:25 PM
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64. I'm sure they thought they had stumbled upon a gravy train and
decided to go for it. Somewhere along the line they got greedy though and now it's all about a new million dollar house, free trips to Hawaii, and product endorsements. I don't think it can sustain itself much longer, particularly with this kind of negative publicity.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 07:49 PM
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61. *shakes head*
Anyone who exploits their children in front of the television as often as these parents should have their heads examined. You cannot convince me otherwise that those kids aren't constantly acting in front of the camera, negatively shaping their behavior. It's disgusting beyond words.

BTW, we have four kids (1 pre-teen and 3 teens) and I think Kate is an over-controlling FREAK.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 07:59 PM
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62. who the fuck are these people?
Google time I guess
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:04 PM
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63. Why do people care what garbage does? Put it in the landfill, and ferget about it.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 11:37 AM
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65. A pox on both of them.
They are pimps, plain and simple.

I don't give a shit about either of the parents, but there is a household full of children whose lives have been put on full display -- to think what is happening to them is in any way healthy is insane.

Shame on both those pimps.
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