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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 10:41 AM
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Stupid bible question
Is the 10 commandments in the old or new testimate of the bible?
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3.14158675309 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 10:43 AM
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1. Old. Exodus 20 specifically
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 10:45 AM
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2. Thanks,3
I wasn't sure. I hear a lot of people say that they only follow the new testament yet they still follow the 10 commandments.
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3.14158675309 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 10:50 AM
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5. Well, Jesus DID say that he didn't come to abolish the Law, but to fulfill it.
Further, he issued a New Commandment: Love each other as I have loved you (John 13:34).
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 10:52 AM
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7. Nice!
thanks!
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 12:31 PM
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11. And in fulfilling it
Edited on Sat May-02-09 12:32 PM by hippywife
he didn't mean he was enforcing it. Just that his life and sacrifice were the embodiment of the penalties. Hard to find the right word to explain it. But it goes way over the head of the fundies.

Ex-believer here. :hi:
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:29 PM
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20. No, he said the fulfillment would not come until the end of time. nt
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 10:47 AM
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3. There are actually three versions of the ten commandments
(all old test.) Two are in Exodus (20 and 34) and one is in Deuteronomy (5)

pretty good bible knowledge for an atheist eh? :P
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 10:49 AM
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4. I am starting to wonder about you...
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 10:53 AM
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8. I keep trying to tell you people that I am sweetness and light personified!
O8)

:rofl:
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:48 AM
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10. keep trying...
:P
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:06 PM
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17. Hey! you're still alive !
I haven't seen you in a looong time. :)
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:32 PM
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21. Hi sweetie...
alive I am :P
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 03:55 PM
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25. Cool !!!

I don't like cadavers ! :P

How are you ?

Curious I am.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:06 PM
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27. Better every day !
getting divorced agrees with me ;)
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 10:51 AM
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6. Wow! Not bad!
Very interesting!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 12:40 PM
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14. Theres should be six...
That way, FOX, WB, and UPN can get involved too...

Mind you, FOX would concentrate on Leviticus and Exodus -- how's that for a pair: Mixing punishment for false sin and encouraging slavery mixed with what is tantamount to pornography with how the lady lusted after her lovers who are the size of horses and have the emissions of donkeys and all that... only one Biblical translation site has the correct translation; all the others muck it up an an embarrassing attempt to hide the embarrassing truth... :D

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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 03:59 PM
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26. Or, Jewish, Catholic and Protestant - they all divvy up the verses differently!
So much for posting the 10 Commandments on public buildings!
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:08 PM
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28. Any fan of Mel Brooks knows
there were originally 15. :P




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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:24 AM
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9. The one about not giving a chicken bone to a dog is from the Apocrypha
Specifically, the Book of Guido.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 12:34 PM
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12. Old - The Jews got them from the "burning bush" via Moses.
Oh, and it's "testament", not "testamate".

mark
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 12:37 PM
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13. Before I separated
I had a testimate.
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:00 PM
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15. Thanks for that, Mark
eom
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:13 PM
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30. Roon, I'm always happy to give out
the wrong information.

Have great weekend.

mark
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:03 PM
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16. Nope, the story says that Moses went up to the summit of Mount Sinai
and met God there. The burning bush episode was earlier, when Moses had fled Egypt after killing an overseer who was abusing a Hebrew slave, was tending sheep in the desert for his father-in-law, Jethro the Midianite.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:12 PM
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29. Must have fallen asleep that day in catholic school -
not hard to do - I think I slept through the last 2 years of high school.

mark
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 05:23 PM
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32. So, the burning bush gave them to Moses who floated down the river carrying the
commandments, but then Moses looked back whence he came and turned into a pillar of salt. His brother turned into pepper, hence the phrase, "Am I my brother's keeper?" Then, the Lord God Yahoo sent the flood and Moses dissolved into saline solution.

I know my theology.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:17 PM
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18. George Carlin's Ten Commandments
"Here is my problem with the ten commandments- why exactly are there 10? You simply do not need ten. The list of ten commandments was artificially and deliberately inflated to get it up to ten. Here's what happened..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkRYaMiP4K8

"Spooky language!"

:rofl:

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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:28 PM
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19. Exodus. There are two versions.
In the version before Moses wrecks the original stone tablets, commandment 10 is the prohibition on the emotion of envy which apparently god regretted his final design decision to include that in our programming. The second restored version has #10 as a prohibition on cooking meat in milk. Both versions give different reasons for the commandments they have in common.

Of course, there really are no "10 commandments." There are 613 commandments of which the 10 are pretty much selected at random.
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bluesbassman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:36 PM
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22. There was originally fifteen.
But Moses dropped one of the tablets. :)

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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:48 PM
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24. Was gonna go there
But you did first :thumbsup:
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sohndrsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:47 PM
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23. Just make sure you don't try to look for the word "marriage"...n/t
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:23 PM
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31. They're found in two places in the Old Testament. Exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5. nt
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