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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 10:59 PM
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Kava-Kava root baby
Tastes like dirt mixed with water , feels like Valium.

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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 11:34 PM
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1. Is Kava-Kava legal?
Edited on Fri May-01-09 11:39 PM by SKKY
By that I mean, is it detectable on a urinalysis??
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 11:42 PM
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2. I bought it from Amazon.com , so I guess it is legal
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sammythecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 11:52 PM
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3. Yes
and it makes a nice nightcap. It's available from a bunch of online vendors. Perfectly legal.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 12:34 AM
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5. I got mine at the Hy-Vee in Ft. Dodge, Iowa.
So, it must be legal.

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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 12:38 AM
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8. the Hy-Vee cartel owns law enforcement in Iowa
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sammythecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:03 AM
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12. I get it from Z-Eclectic.com
If I order on a Monday it's in the mailbox on Wednesday. I don't know how it's sold at the Hy-Vee, but I like what they call "Kaviar Instant Kava Powder". $11 for 30 grams. I think I used 5 grams per drink. It's completely soluble and doesn't require any straining. If I remember right, I think I just mixed it in some warm tea and drank it down like a medicine. I've read that steeping it like a hot tea destroys some of its effectiveness.

Like you I think, I found it to be a mildly pleasurable relaxant that I'd recommend to anyone, my own mother if she was still alive. I haven't had it in almost a year, but, after all this talk about it, I plan on ordering some tomorrow.

BTW, I'm not affiliated with Z-Eclectic in any way.

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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:07 AM
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13. Mine is in capsules. nt
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S n o w b a l l Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:57 PM
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15. Thanks for the info!
I just ordered 100g from them.

Been having terrible insomnia and this will be a lifesaver if it works for me. I have such a tolerance to anything sedative like.
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sammythecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 02:52 PM
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22. Here's just a bit more you might find interesting
It's informative and from an authoritative source. There's a LOT of info out there on kava kava.

Hope it works for you. :)
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S n o w b a l l Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 07:12 PM
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26. Hi sammy..
I got mine in today and I was wondering what the normal dose is for the powder? I've seen everything from 1 teaspoon to 2 tablespoons. I tried 1 tablespoon and I can definitely feel it but it's not extreme or anything. I hope I didn't take too much though. Also, how long does it take for this to wear off?

They sent me some pill samples too. Do you know the dosage on those? They're 4g each.

Thanks for any info you or anyone can give!
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we the tweeple Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 02:28 PM
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17. It's sold in health stores, so it's not something that would be tested!
They have capsules, sprays and teas.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 12:29 AM
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4. It never worked on me
In medium doses it is supposed to act as a euphorant, but I never noticed anything.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 12:35 AM
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6. Helps me relax. When I'm having trouble with insomnia--
the kind where my brain just won't stop working--kava kava works great.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 12:36 AM
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7. Can you mix it into anything else to not make it taste like dirt?
Orange juice?
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 12:47 AM
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10. I take capsules. I don't taste a thing.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 12:53 AM
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11. That's a good idea.
:thumbsup:
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 12:44 AM
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9. If you like Kava-Kava, you'll probably like
Valerian (smells like dirty feet, but works wonders for sound sleep & relaxation!)
and
Melatonin

ALL LEGAL

These are so much better than Sominex & other chemical pharma.
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:20 PM
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14. Advice for those who want to try Kava
1) Never mix Kava with alcohol. I normally abstain from alcohol 3 day before and 3 days after I have Kava.

2) ONLY get Kava root , and preferably prepare it the traditional way ...stay away from supplements in pill form , those may contain leave and stem parts , that can possibly cause liver damage.
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we the tweeple Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 02:27 PM
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16. Why do you need it? Just would like to know...
I've never taken Valium and I have never taken kava.
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 02:32 PM
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18. well, why do you need soda ?
Edited on Sat May-02-09 02:37 PM by UndertheOcean
you don't , but you might like to drink it sometimes nevertheless
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we the tweeple Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 02:34 PM
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19. "Soda" as a verb? You mean, why do I drink soda sometimes?
To quench my thirst. I don't put food items in the same category as intoxicants.
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 02:38 PM
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20. So you never drank beer or wine ?
you are a saint then. I am unworthy.
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we the tweeple Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 02:41 PM
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21. Of course, and other things...Not now, though. Nothing to do with
sainthood...I just realized it wasn't cool anymore.
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sammythecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 03:16 PM
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23. You really should try to blaze your own trail sometimes
Edited on Sat May-02-09 03:25 PM by sammythecat
I eat a peanut butter and jelly sandwich every day and a small glass of cheap ($6/bottle) fortified "wino" wine nearly every night. I haven't' got the slightest fucking idea whether this is cool or not.

Read a little about kava kava and then maybe you'll understand why some people "need" it to satisfy their insatiable cravings. Here's a link I posted upstream. It's short and a trusted source:
http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/kava-kava-000259.htm

on edit: BTW, welcome to DU. It can get a bit contentious sometimes, but I'm sure you're already aware of that. :hi:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 03:41 PM
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sammythecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:00 PM
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25. Read this sentence again jerkwad
"I haven't' got the slightest fucking idea whether this is cool or not."

Let me try it another way shithead: I don't give a fuck if you or anybody else thinks what I do or don't do is cool or not cool. The "blaze your own trail" bit was a sarcastic recommendation to your friend to not give a flying fuck whether or not something he, or anyone else, is doing is cool or not. Doing, or not doing, something based on whether it's perceived as "cool" is pathetically juvenile, don't you think?

I really, really, wish some people, like you, would at least fucking TRY, for a moment, to comprehend the words they read.
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lightningandsnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 07:15 PM
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27. Will it kill me?
I don't want to get high off of it, it's just that anxiety sucks, and I don't have a psychiatrist. Heh.
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