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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 01:44 PM
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Are children being taught cursive writing in school these days?

It seems there is less and less need for it.









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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 01:46 PM
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1. You still need to be able to sign your name
And to fill out a check.

But yeah, other than that, I don't really use it anymore.
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 03:23 PM
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10. But there's no legal requirement that the signature actually be in cursive.
An "x" can be someone's legal signature.

Just sayin'.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:34 PM
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25. Try it in practice. Folks insist it be cursive. That's happened to me. nt
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 12:50 AM
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34. It don' gotta be cursive
to be illegible.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 12:51 AM
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36. But people require you to sign your name in cursive. nt
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 12:56 AM
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37. prove a squiggle isnt cursive?
I have a hard time getting places to check my ID, even though all the cards say to check ID. How I sign my name is rendered pretty irrelevent. I occasionaly dont even sign, or make a symbol, just to see what they will pass. Ill formed squiggle always passes. Stylized smiley face generally passes. Print passes. "Mickey" passes. Blank only passes about half the time.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 01:48 PM
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2. yes, but early on, and then it seems to have been abandoned since kids
print and type things so much.


My son learned to write in cursive, but he doesn't actually do it much. :shrug: I bet there is some research that says that it is developmentally useful despite how little it is used.

I used to have lovely Catholic grade school handwriting, but you should see how bad and illegiible my chicken scratch is now! :hide:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:35 PM
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26. But most kids don't seem to be learning to type either. It's maddening watching kids hunt and peck
on a keyboard.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 11:11 AM
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39. you mean formal typing training?
good point. I think the kids at school did have some as part of their computer training. My son seems to type pretty fast from what I can see....
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nomorenomore08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 01:49 PM
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3. I learned cursive back in 2nd grade (circa 1992-93), and my handwriting still looks like that.
Which is to say, I still write like a 2nd-grader just learning cursive. :P
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 01:51 PM
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4. Hell, they don't even teach spelling or grammar any more.
Of course they don't teach penmanship.

More important for fourth graders to learn how to do reports on Power Point.

:eyes:

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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:23 PM
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20. Yes, they do. If it's on a standardized test, thus it will be taught.
NCLB, ya' know!
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 11:13 AM
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41. well, they do teach spelling - but not grammar, from what I have seen


They do teach writing skills early in many schools now and also the follow-up - my 7th grader is learning to write a formal-type research paper this term.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 01:51 PM
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5. Yes.
Edited on Mon Mar-30-09 01:51 PM by redqueen
I use it for writing letters. I can't send people typed letters. It's so impersonal.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 01:51 PM
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6. I hope not. They swear too much already.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 01:57 PM
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7. Do you still write in cursive? Aside from my name, I can't remember the last time
I wrote anything in cursive. I can barely fill out my checks by hand anymore. Everything is typing, texting, or voice.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 02:02 PM
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8. I still do, in my journal, grocery lists, etc.

But then, I'm also trying to brush up on my shorthand. Just for my own use.

I can still do it, just not fast.












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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 02:05 PM
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9. p.s., there isn't less need for it. The problem is that too many people just don't give a shit.
Even when the idiots can be bothered to send a letter to someone, it's usually just a fucking Hallmark card with a shitty canned sentiment on it, to which they merely sign their name, shove it in the envelope, maybe hand-address the thing (though likely spend the extra time to print it out in a sticky label), and then slap some fucking idiotic return-address label to thing, instead of showing the respect of hand-writing it, and mail it off.

All nice and antiseptic and easy as can be, to tell the person receiving it, "You should just be damned happy that I bothered to send anything".
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 03:36 PM
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11. Yes.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 03:40 PM
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12. There is a judge I appear before that has the most beautiful handwriting
SHe'll on occasion draft her own order. She could be totally screwing me over and all I can do is look at the paper and go "wow".

My only D- in grade school was in writing in second grade. Now if there ever was a class prejudiced against small boys it was writing - fine motor skills and all that. And I was a year ahead...I just could not get my hand to work right, despite practice. Catholic school cursive rocks.

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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 03:44 PM
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13. They did when I was in school, it's one of the reasons why I have anger issues
x(
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schmuls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 03:56 PM
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14. I know the 8 year old girl upstairs is learning it. She goes to a
Catholic School.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 03:59 PM
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15. In Russian class, yes
:D
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:33 PM
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23. Man, did I have a tough time with that!!! Samaia plokha! nt
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:57 PM
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28. Kal!
Edited on Mon Mar-30-09 09:58 PM by XemaSab
Ya hochu mnet!

(But really... Russian improved my cursive immeasurably.)
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 11:31 PM
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31. huh?
Oh I thought you were talking to me, but I see the i is upside down.:P
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 12:38 AM
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33. You too
:P
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 04:02 PM
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16. I still write in cursive.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 04:07 PM
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17. I always did, when I was still in the classroom.
My students liked it because I was also teaching them how to take notes and they thought they could actually write faster in cursive than printing. These were 2nd and 3rd graders.

I write in cursive on everything, as I, too, find it much faster than printing. I only type if I have to... like now!
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 11:15 AM
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42. hey KT!
How have you been? :hi:
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 04:09 PM
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18. Fuck cursive!
that is all.

x(
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:22 PM
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19. Of course they do.
And the younger children cannot wait to learn cursive! They try to write instead of print as early as kindergarten. Hard to read, but hey, they still want to learn it!

And they still write in cursive on their spelling tests! So cute ... neatly numbered lists of spelling words. :)
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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:28 PM
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21. Yup, just ask my third grader
He's been complaining about it.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:33 PM
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22. Any writing. Adults now have the handwriting 5 yr. olds used to have. nt
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lightningandsnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:34 PM
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24. I learned it in the late 90's.
Edited on Mon Mar-30-09 09:35 PM by lightningandsnow
And, honestly, learning it kind of hindered rather than helped me, because I have issues with my fine motor coordination, and it was hard enough for me to write in the first place. I definitely wasn't ready to learn it in grade 3, and since it was a subject in school (I went to a private school), I got terrible marks in it.

Actually, maybe it's a good thing that I learned it. It's all I use now, since my printing is atrocious. My cursive is also atrocious, but slightly less so.

Oh, and just as an aside; you have no idea, as someone who struggles to be able to write by hand, how much it pisses me off when people attribute messy handwriting to laziness or stupidity.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 07:47 AM
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38. I have some idea. I'm left handed and some of my teachers gave me hell about my

handwriting. Well, duh, I was trying to write in a right-handed desk.




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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:39 PM
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27. My last kid just finished high school, but they all had to learn cursive in grade school.
Seems kind of obsolete. I still write letters and cards by hand but I print.
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 10:26 PM
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29. Sometime during undergrad I realized...
...that nobody would ever make me write in cursive ever again, and so I quit doing it, as my own tiny little rebellion against rules and regulations. :) Besides, I could take notes in print at least as fast as I could write in cursive.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 11:29 PM
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30. It's a waste of time, IMO
Why learn a way of writing that is only half-readable? Manuscript/Printing/Whatever looks neater and is easier to read.
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Lethe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 11:32 PM
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32. Not sure, but penmanship is admirable
look at our founding fathers and what they wrote.

you can't exactly exposit grand theories of politics or philosophy without having outstanding penmanship. (back then of course)
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 12:50 AM
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35. My father had the most gorgeous signature
My mother wrote like a school teacher. All perfect, just like the charts.

I was a lefty so cursive was always a challenge and my defiance to conform to the standard style kicked in early. Today, my natural handwriting is a mix of cursive and print.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 11:12 AM
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40. I hardly ever write in cursive.
I like my printing better.
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