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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 04:46 PM
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Man vs. Wild or Survivorman?
Edited on Fri Dec-05-08 04:47 PM by The Night Owl
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 04:47 PM
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1. Survivor Man
The Man vs. Wild Sierra episode might be the funniest shit I've ever seen.

And not in a good way. :eyes:
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 02:11 AM
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10. Yep! I was excited when I saw that on the schedule, but I was appalled
at some of the nutty-ass stuff he did. Especially the rafting down the river bit - in the time he spent building a raft, I could have walked down to Bishop, had a burger, and walked back up with enough time to set up a safer bivy than he did... :eyes:
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 08:51 AM
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15. Was that the one where he tried to ride a wild horse out of the wilderness?
That one had me in tears. Not sure if it was the one you mean.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 01:06 PM
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19. That was the one
NOT ONCE have I seen a wild horse in California. NOT ONCE.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 05:05 PM
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25. That's because it wasn't wild
The two "wild" horses were trailered in for the shoot.
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 05:00 PM
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2. Man vs Wild guy allegedly caught
sleeping at a motel when he was supposed to be in the wilderness. I will say Bear seems to be much better at getting food than Survivorman, who is usually starving at the end of his adventure.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 08:43 PM
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5. Mr. Grylls may not take risks when the cameras are off but when they're rolling...
Edited on Fri Dec-05-08 08:44 PM by The Night Owl
...he takes enormous risks. I almost wish he would play it more safe. I get nervous watching the guy in action. He almost seems to have a death wish.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 08:47 PM
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6. It wasn't a motel
It was a swanky resort in the "Sierra" episode.

My great-aunt lives a block away from there.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 05:01 PM
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3. Survivorman.
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 05:26 PM
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4. Les Stroud is my homeboy
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aquaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 10:11 PM
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7. I watch both....
But I like Survivorman much more. It appears more "real."
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midnight armadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 10:29 PM
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8. Survivorman.
He lacks a camera crew - do you realize how much work he does to do his filming?
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 12:15 AM
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9. Survivorman, hands down
If you're ever unfortunate enough to find yourself in a survival situation, try to forget everything you ever saw on Man vs. Wild.

Bad Advice and Inaccuracies
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 07:46 AM
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12. Watching the most recent episodes of Survivorman, I get the sense that...
Edited on Sat Dec-06-08 07:48 AM by The Night Owl
...some of the comments Mr. Stroud makes are veiled criticism of Mr. Grylls for the needlessly dangerous or gross things he does.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 12:54 PM
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16. I've noticed the same thing
Edited on Sat Dec-06-08 12:56 PM by pokerfan
For example, Grylls has advised drinking urine (about as useful as drinking salt water). In response, Stroud has demonstrated a couple of times how to build a solar still which allows you to drink your urine safely.

My favorite Bear moment was when a black bear wandered into his camp in the Rockies. Never mind that he had simply dressed one of his assistants in a silly bear costume! Again, the really funny part was the bad/dangerous advice. To be fair, he's a Brit and I don't believe that there are many bears in the UK. :)

First off, he cooks and eats in his camp which is a great way to attract a bear. This is something I never do when I'm in bear country. We would simply eat our last meal around six, then cache the food and hike a mile or so down the trail before setting up a food-free camp. Yeah, it's added hassle and it assumes a long summer twilight. I understand that in a survival situation your options may be more limited. Apparently, in Grylls' world, one of those options is becoming bear food.

And his advice for a bear in your camp in the middle of the night: Abandon your camp and run away! Ugh! I think even urbanites have heard that running away from a bear or a large cat or even a little dog can trigger a predatory reflex but apparently Grylls never got that memo. I also think that most people know that you can't outrun a bear anyway.

He then went on to claim that the bear was "stalking him" and playing "mind games" and that the only way to "break his scent trail" was to throw himself off a seventy foot cliff into an unknown river. In the middle of the night. :rofl:

I suppose it's all highly entertaining but hardly educational and I really don't understand what it's doing on the Discovery Channel when it belongs on Cartoon or Comedy Central. If I was still with the Mountaineers, I might use his show as examples of what not to do.

Can you tell I don't much care for Grylls' "survival" show?

Don't get me started on his food choices. It's all in the link I provided anyway. His "Fear Factor" stunts (and most of them are staged, I suspect) can make you very sick (something to avoid at all times but especially in a survival situation) or at worst, even lead to your demise, i.e. the opposite of survival.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 11:02 PM
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27. Nope, there are no bears in the UK, but...
...there are giant hounds.

:rofl:
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 02:15 AM
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11. I don't watch. I refuse to watch someone ring out poo for water.
Unless they are REALLY desperate for water.
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 08:06 AM
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13. Both
I like Les because of his crankiness and that he does show you can survive without food for longer than most of us would care to experience.

I like Bear too. Despite his having cheated on the premise of his show he is a real adventurer. Youngest Brit to summit Everest(after breaking his back in a parachuting accident. Crossed the north Atlantic in a Zodiac. His books are a filled a bit too much with talk of his faith for my tastes but still interesting reads.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 12:59 PM
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17. Food
is pretty far down the priority list. The Rule of Threes is a way of memorizing the order of importance for each basic survival necessity. In an extreme situation you cannot survive more than:

Three hours without shelter (think hypothermia)
Three days without water
Three weeks without food
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 08:50 AM
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14. I love Les! My husband and daughter like Bear.
So we insult each other's guy when we watch, but actually we all love both shows. I just wish they'd get some new episodes.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 01:03 PM
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18. There was a new Survivorman last night
and there was a new one last week as well. I think they repeat so look for an episode titled Deep Woods. Last week's was Baffin Island.

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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 01:37 PM
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21. Cool. I haven't checked for awhile cause they were all reruns
for so long. Thanks! :)
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pinstikfartherin Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 01:33 PM
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20. Survivorman!
The man carries all of that camera equipment and stays by himself for a week in the wilderness. He's pretty resourceful and I feel like I'd do better with remembering his actions if I were lost.

The Man vs. Wild guy was interesting to me before I saw Survivorman.

Survivorman all the way!
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ThePowerofWill Donating Member (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 03:28 PM
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22. Les ftw!
Simple reason being if it was veiwed in a sports context Les Stroud = Boxing, Kick boxing, Mma. On the other hand Bear = scripted pro wrestling. ones for real, the other a scripted work.

As far as the apperance of danger, Les camping out in the artic with polar bears mere feet away at night, or set alone adrift on a rubber raft.... way more dangerous > than anything Grylls has done on Man vs. Wild.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 05:23 PM
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26. In the "lost at sea" episode
they did pull him in and tie him to the boat when a big storm hit. They showed him staying in the raft but the crew was right there just in case. He wants to make it realistic without being suicidal.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 03:30 PM
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23. Les Stroud by far Bear is a poseur
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 04:41 PM
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24. Survivorman, no question. n/t
Edited on Sat Dec-06-08 04:42 PM by Blue_In_AK
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City of Mills Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 07:24 AM
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28. You all jinxed Bear Grylls!
'Shock and agony': Dangerous airlift rescue for injured explorer Bear Grylls after Antarctic fall

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1092537/Shock-a...

Daredevil SAS man-turned-explorer Bear Grylls was being airlifted to South Africa last night after being badly injured filming a TV documentary in Antarctica.

The 34-year-old adventurer broke his shoulder in a life-threatening fall and was said to be in shock and agony from a serious fracture which left the bone protruding from his body.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 09:31 AM
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30. Ouch! Like I said in post #5...
Death wish. I wish the guy would play it more safe.
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sohndrsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 07:28 AM
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29. House. n/t
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:11 PM
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31. Survivorman n/t
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 07:03 PM
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32. Survivorman! Les is the BOMB!
My husband makes fun of me for watching it, but one day when we're stranded in the artic tundra, he'll be sorry!
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