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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 06:23 PM
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Boy banned from kindergarten because of long hair
NEEDVILLE, Texas - A Texas school board will soon decide if a boy's long hair should keep him from attending school.


The Needville Independent School District said 5-year-old Adriel Arocha's long locks violate school rules.

Adriel's parents say long hair is a sacred tradition in their Native American culture
http://www.9news.com/news/watercooler/article.aspx?stor...
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 06:31 PM
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1. what year is this?
Edited on Wed Jul-16-08 06:31 PM by fishwax
:wtf:

:shrug:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 06:33 PM
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2. Aschool has a rule against long hair? Does it apply to girls as well as boys?
This is beyond absurd.
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pagandem4justice Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 11:08 PM
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23. You may have a point here...
I wonder if they can sue under Title IX, which as I recall (I teach in TX, but am no legal expert!) is a federal statute that bans discriminatory behavior on the part of public institutions on the basis of gender. If that's so, someone with standing (i.e., this family) can bring suit challenging not the right of the school board to set dress code (which is supported by precedent), but their right to set it on the basis of gender. Basically, if boys' hair must be short, so must girls'...or else no rule. ;)

If so...victory! (no school board hoping to be re-elected will tell girls to cut off their "feminine" hair!)
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 06:34 PM
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3. Oh for crying out loud
Schools don't have enough problems that they need to make an issue of stuff like this? Are they going to deny Sikhs and Orthodox Jews a place in school as well? Those groups also have strictures against cutting all or part of their hair.

Ah, Texas. At least there's still one state in the union determined to make Florida look good.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 06:34 PM
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4. home school him. its Texas. nt.
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loveable liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 06:35 PM
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5. Stupid is as stupid does my momma used to say.....
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 06:35 PM
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6. Where's William Tecumseh Sherman when we need him?
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 07:37 PM
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11. What? Marching through Texas with a torch maybe?
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 07:37 PM
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12. That'd be great if that was true
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 06:44 PM
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7. Oh, good. That's just what he needs.
First off, for an institution to even be making an issue of it; second, for his family's completely peaceful practice to be held up by the institution as "unacceptable" and third; encouraging his classmates to see him as "unacceptable". Adults to children. Oh, that's really good.

:nuke:
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Tikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 06:47 PM
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8. Could that little guy be any cuter....and do you...
think any of his classmates are even going to notice his hair after they see that smile?!!!


Tikki
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 06:58 PM
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9. My 8 year old
asked me if he could grow his hair long. I told him I didn't care one bit. If the school makes any kind of scene over it, they will be asking for a fight. Last year, a kid had a mohawk - he was 5. The kindergarten teacher sent the little guy to the principals office who in turn told his mother the mohawk caused a distraction - of course it did... Sure, the little 5 year olds were all horrified by the kids mohawk. What a crock of shit. I told the mother to take it up with the school board, which she did. It was really stupid that the woman had to waste her time protecting the rights of her little boy who looked fine - She ended up taking her kids out of that school and moving them to a different school. It was absurd.

So... it doesn't just happen in Texas. It happened here in Red County San Diego. Oh... and the little boy's Daddy? He was on a ship in the Persian Gulf deployed by the idiot chimp.
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fizzgig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 07:35 PM
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10. i'm not thrilled about how litigous we have become, but i think this family has a law suit
it's discrimination couched in administrative bullshit.

i knew plenty of boys with long hair when i was a kid and it didn't distract me from my school work one bit
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 10:07 PM
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19. They may very well be suing, once they hear back from the ACLU.
And even if the ACLU doesn't take the case, they have said they will hire a lawyer on their own. The article I posted further down details that better than I can faithfully remember ;)
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 07:53 PM
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13. why is it appropriate for a girl to have long hair?
This is gender discrimination, plain and simple. If one child can't have long hair, then NO CHILD she be allowed long hair, girl or boy.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 08:07 PM
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14. I don't see anything wrong with the kid having long hair, but my kid has an orange mohawk.
Well, it's orange again this week. Last week it was blue.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 09:17 PM
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15. Flip flopper, that kid needs some direction
:eyes:




























:D
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 09:20 PM
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16. Not the first case of this sort in Texas
the problem is that the first few times around the Texas court took the side of the schools, so now there's a precedent. A ridiculous and probably unconstitutional precedent... but hey.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 09:35 PM
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17. Oh, what a fucking load. All the problems we have in schools and THIS is what they
want to make a big deal about?
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 10:04 PM
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18. This story was covered in greater detail in The Houston Press
but they're also known for their investigative journalism.

I've had this copy sitting in my car all week and finally got around to reading it. A somewhat progressive co-worker lives there, so I'll have to ask her tomorrow what her take on it is. For me, it's yet another example of the rednecks that surround Houston. They can stay out in the boonies, too.

Here's the HP story if y'all want to read more:

A Native American Family Fights Against Hair Length Rules: When five-year-old Adriel Arocha ran afoul of the Needville school district, getting cut off wasn't an option for his parents
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txwhitedove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 12:21 AM
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27. Great article. Too bad the family bought their land. Always check
out the school system first. All it takes is one backwards superintendent.


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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 10:11 PM
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20. Just crazy
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 10:41 PM
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21. This, presumably, is Needville's god
Or, at least, their image of him.







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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 10:53 PM
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22. Needville was originally called Schendelville
although the "need" portion came from the founder trying to jokingly name the town "Needmore" due to needing more of everything there ;) The Post Office changed it to Needville since there was another town elsewhere in the country (maybe Texas, tho I don't know about that) using the name.

More info on Needville from the Handbook of Texas Online so you can get your facts straight when taking the superintendent and their school board down another few notches :)
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 11:18 PM
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24. That happened in my school.
Of course it was Catholic school.

Oh yeah...and it was 1966.
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txwhitedove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 11:35 PM
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25. School Boards everywhere take up this issue from time to time. It is not
just Texas. Spring I.S.D. has some odd rules, runs the high school like a prison with too many inmates, tbe kids have to say the Pledge of Allegiance -AND- a Texas pledge, can get an actual ticket to go to court if a teacher even "thinks" they say a curse word, BUT the boys can have long hair, facial hair, and wear pretty much what they want as long as they have their I.D.

Schools are different everywhere. Please don't just bash Texas. We don't like Georgie either.

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/football/other_nfl/v...

http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=12135

http://www.pamspaulding.com/weblog/2005/03/politics-of-...

http://cache.search.yahoo-ht2.akadns.net/search/cache?e...

http://www.ksat.com/news/14214756/detail.html




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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 11:41 PM
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26. Why the fuck do they care how long a kid's hair is?
As long as it's clean and cared for it should be none of their damned business. x(
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