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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:02 AM
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Poll question: Battle of the horrible states: which sucks more?
I have a habit of dating people from places that aren't fit for human habitation. For goodness sake, my first high school boyfriend was born in Winnemucca, which, if you're familiar with Dante, is in fact mentioned as one of the inner circles of hell.

So of my last two serious relationships, who's from someplace worse?

The kid's Dad is from Bluffton, Ohio, which, in addition to being the whitest place on earth, hosts a Mennonite college (like the Amish, but with cars, refrigerators and buttons,) a grocery store sized building, complete with shopping carts for your haul, which sells only fireworks (bonus fact: setting off fireworks is illegal there, so you have to say you're going out of state with them) and a movie theater with only one screen, which often shows the same movie for weeks at a stretch. Oh, and in a sign of progress it's gone from one stoplight to three. Almost nothing is open after dark or on Sunday, but there's absolutely nothing to do on weekdays either. People pointed out to me 27 times (I kept track) Phyllis Diller's childhood home, which is apparently the closest thing Bluffton has to a tourist attraction. I'm not exactly sure who that is, but apparently she grew up in a reasonably attractive house. Popular Buckeye state pasttimes include being nosy, rotating junk endlessly through the town in garage sales, and complaining about the heat when it's not even eighty. I'm not saying that it's bland, but people there drive below the speed limit and think that Italian food is exotic and foreign. Several helpful Ohioans, all apparently quite informed about political issues, let me know that California's taxes were too high, though closer investigation revealed that none of them had any idea what tax rates in California are, or for that matter what rates they were paying in Ohio, and in fact none of them had spent any time west of the Mississippi. Under no circumstances should these people be trusted with an election.


flvegan, who had the good sense to be born in Massachusetts (apparently his ancestors, weary after their long trip on the Mayflower, resolved never to move more than ten miles from where they landed- a streak that landed hundreds of years until he up and moved to, quite possibly, the worst place on earth.) I'm so at a loss to describe the virtues of the sunshine state that I'll let his favorite television show do it for me: "God Florida's awful! Nasty insects, old people, fat people. A lot of people who offer you cheese... And they'll shoot you." Popular Florida pastimes include being armed to the teeth, robbing and killing German tourists, concerting to Scientology, executing the retarded and being eaten by alligators. In fact, Florida is so awful that the best thing you can do for humankind is to go spray a can of hairspray into the sky, so it'll sink into the ocean a bit faster. The roads are awful, badly designed and the drivers are even worse than reputed. Most Floridians drive at Warp Nine, even if they are technically deceased. Under no circumstances should these people be trusted with an election.

So, I ask you DUers, which dreadful state is worse?

Sorry, polls are turned off at Level 3.

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dubeskin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:06 AM
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1. Worse. The State of Denial
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 12:07 AM by dubeskin
And obviously you've never been to other parts of Ohio. As a former resident, it was a great state. At least Cincinnati was...
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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:09 AM
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3. It ain't just a river in Egypt
Sailed that one too many times.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:10 AM
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4. Only the northwest bit (Columbus, Toledo, etc) because that's where his family is
That was dreadful enough that I'd place a return visit right below an unmedicated colonoscopy on my to-do list.
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dubeskin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:12 AM
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6. Ahh, then apparently you've never tried Graeter's Ice Cream
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 12:12 AM by dubeskin
Because after you've tried that you'll never want to leave the Ohio/Kentucky area ;)
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:15 AM
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9. Dairy?
:rofl: No.

That reminds me, I forgot to mention "hardly any decent food" to my enumeration of Ohio's faults.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 06:47 AM
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21. I don't think she's going to, either
Vegans are like that, and she is one.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:09 AM
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2. The Ohioan I've met were all very nice.
Middle class white-bread nice, but still, nice beats unpleasant any day. I have no particular beef with Ohio. Just its former Secretary of State. :mad:
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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:12 AM
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5. Pick one: Mississippi, Alabama(my home State), Georgia
Redneck red State havens. With a few of us thrown in.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:16 AM
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10. South Carolina's dreadful.
I think Columbia might be the most depressing excuse for a city in America.
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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:24 AM
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14. Inexpensive beer is one good thing
SC has a low booze tax.

:)
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:11 AM
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15. Which is why I deify William Tecumseh Sherman for burning it
:patriot:
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asteroid2003QQ47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 10:27 AM
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39. Am curious as to why you feel that way...
because my son recently moved to a town near Columbia.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:39 PM
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59. Giant flying cockroaches.
And the weather. Columbia just struck me as depressing and sort of seedy.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 08:05 AM
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109. Spot on. What an awful town, for a university town anyway. I went there
years ago to play a band gig - seedy doesn't begin to describe it.

BTW, the correct euphemism for giant flying cockroaches is "Palmetto Bugs".
They are even bigger in Florida. Gross, huh? :scared:
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:53 PM
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78. Mrs. Bake would say, without hesitation, Mississippi
In fact, I hear that almost EVERY DAMN DAY!!!!!!

:rofl:

Bake
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:12 AM
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7. .
:spank:
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:14 AM
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8. Hello.....VIRGINIA!!
:eyes:
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:16 AM
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11. I'm supposed to go for a drunken crime spree with Midlo in August.
I'll report back. :D
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:13 AM
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16. Are you going to use a baseball bat or a 2x4 to attack Hobos?
:D
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:44 AM
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19. I'm going to wave my college financial aid letter at them until they cry.
Midlo, of course, will just back over them in the MidloVan and then use the freeper grill to dispose of the bodies.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 10:09 AM
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38. ...
:rofl:

How did you know what I do for fun on the weekends? :o
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:03 PM
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47. I read it on the interwebs, hater.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:19 AM
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12. My dear LeftyMom!
*sniff*

I happen to have a few very good friends in Ohio!

It's a beautiful state!

So there!

Flvegan is the only good thing in Florida, now that graywarrior has gone home!

:P

:hi:
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:53 AM
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36. Ahem, Peggy....nt
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:19 AM
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13. Y'know, LM...
When you get on a roll, you're just about the funniest fucking person at DU.

:rofl:



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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:31 AM
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17. I once spent a night in the Liberty Motel in Youngstown, OH.
I haven't seen a whole lot of Ohio besides the Liberty Motel in Youngstown, but that one experience was enough to make me not want to spend any more time in Ohio. Florida has Epcot Center and beaches. Ohio has the Liberty Motel in Youngstown. 'Nuff said.
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 08:55 AM
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110. Judging Ohio by Youngstown is like judging Florida by Jacksonville
Both are horrible. Both are totally useless for representing the rest of the state.

I recently spent a week in Florida, and I live in Columbus, Ohio.

Here's my thoughts:

Ohio: too damn flat. Not enough snow in the winter. Too far away from our families. Ken Blackwell, Bob Taft. Election Fraud. Ohio State University football maniacs. But - Ohio has never elected a member of the Bush family to a state office. Good birdwatching. Graeter's Ice Cream. Pretty friendly and nice people if you aren't in Youngstown or the Republican stronghold of the Cincinnati area.

Florida: Hotter than hell and humid to boot. Even flatter than Ohio. Full of huge bugs. Has elected a Bush to office. Terry Schiavo. Kathleen Harris. the 2000 elections. Hurricanes. Has its own tag at Fark.com. But- great birdwatching, nice beaches, good Cuban food, lots of neat alligators.

I think Ohio comes out on top for me, but all in all, I'd rather be living in the Northeast or Upper Midwest.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:33 AM
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18. TX should be on that list...
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:47 AM
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20. I've never done anything more than change planes in Texas.
Since some stupid tropical storm tried to trap me in Houston (at George Bush airport, ffs) I took that as a bad sign, and in the future I'll steer clear.
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:12 PM
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49. By the way
Bush Airport used to be called Houston Intercontinental, or just "Intercontinental" to us natives. You'll still find us referring to it that way, kind of like "The Summit" (arena) for what later became "Compaq Center" and more recently as yet another Lakewood Church.

I would guess the FAA has changed their abbreviations, but for the longest time after the name-change they still had it listed as IAX.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 07:46 AM
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31. There's TX and there's Austin-two different countries.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 11:44 AM
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43. Nah. Barbara Jordan, LBJ, Mickey Leland, Ralph Yarborough, Molly Ivins
Ann Richards, Jim Hightower, Henry B Gonzales, Don Henley, Janis Joplin... Not to mention South Padre, the Davis Mountains, Big Bend, and the Hill Country.

We do alright. Not responsible for everyone who decides to move here from Connecticut or Wyoming.
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 11:56 AM
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44. Thar ya go!
Not to mention the Johnson Space Center and the distinction of having our wonderful Houston being the first word spoken from another planet(oid), i.e., the Moon :D

Austin is a nice place to visit (mostly for family living there) but I love Houston!
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:11 PM
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48. I like Houston a great deal, myself.
I'm a transplant. Moved to Dallas first, then to Austin for (like everyone else) grad school, and (like everyone else) stayed.

But I love Houston, and the surrounds. Kemah, Clearlake, Galveston (I'm a beach rat), even the yuppie Woodlands. The museums are excellent, there's plenty to do.

Nice town you got there.
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:17 PM
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50. Thankya, thankya
:D

I stay here for the variety of people, restaurants and climate. Plus the fact that the oil bidness is where I've been employed most of the time in drafting and design. I could probably get similar work in Austin if I had more training, but I would so miss the Middle Eastern and Indian places here. Houston has the second-largest Indian population in the country :)

Have you ever been to the Rothko Chapel? It is like the most tranquil place in the middle of the city...
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:34 PM
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56. Thanks for the tip. Rothko Chapel.
One of your Indian restaurants made its way here--Madras Pavilion. One of my favorite restaurants.
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:39 PM
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60. Really?
I didn't know they had expanded outside of the Greater Houston area. I was always surprised and impressed that they had a restaurant in Sugarland, but it wasn't their veggie version. They do sell meat dishes, so I guess that's the limit for GOPland out there ;)

I don't eat there very often, but I did moreso when I was married. I will likely be taking the next woman in my life to India-Central, i.e., Harwin and Hilcroft ;) (she likes saris and all the "exotic" aspects of that culture as do I)
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:56 PM
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62. No meat, which is why it's one of my faves.
Me no do meat.
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 07:16 AM
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105. Same here
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 01:57 PM
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138. .
:thumbsup:
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 04:37 PM
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89. Very cool Indian stores on Hillcroft/Harwin.
You can get beautiful saris and salwar kameez (the knee length dress with the long scarf and slacks underneath).

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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 07:16 AM
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104. That's cool.
Any particularly favorite store over there? I can see several just driving through and I know there's one in the Patel Brothers strip center. I've told my gf that we'd probably do best to find a parking spot and walk, since traffic is so horrendous and there's such a density of stores over there :)
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 04:40 PM
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90. No wonder Mark Rothko shot himself.
If I painted depressing dark purple, almost black paintings, I'd be depressed too.


I cannot see why people think the Rothko Chapel is "happy". Feh.

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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 07:18 AM
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106. Go inside of it sometime and see for yourself.
Forget the history and soak up the vibes of the place. You might be surprised.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 05:31 PM
Response to Reply #106
147. I HAVE BEEN THERE.
More than once.

I would not have said that if I had not been there.

I still say it's depressing.

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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 09:01 AM
Response to Reply #18
111. Willie Nelson and Roy Orbison.
TX has some bright spots.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 06:51 AM
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22. Definitely Florida.
I lived in Miami most of my life until I wised up and moved to the Atlanta area. Miami is the hell hole of the South.
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 09:32 AM
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112. I lived a couple of years in Ft. Lauderdale.
I thought that was the hell hole....

that was 14 years ago, wonder if it's gotten any better.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 07:03 AM
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23. For once NJ is not on the list
Woohoo!
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 11:57 AM
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45. Double woohoo!
:woohoo: :woohoo:
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:49 PM
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76. Yeah...why?
This undercuts the poll's credibility!
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 04:22 PM
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87. Because LeftyMom has visited here in NJ and she can vouch for it's niceness
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 04:22 PM by LostinVA
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 02:09 AM
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97. You guys live in a very pretty area and have at least one nice cop
which is one more than most places can claim.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 07:05 AM
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101. We're pretty positive you found the only nice cop
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 07:21 AM
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24. You do know that the people of Ohio are responsible for electing Kucinich, right?
Does that support or refute your statement "Under no circumstances should these people be trusted with an election"?

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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 07:26 AM
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25. It was clearly an error
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 07:34 AM
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28. The statement made or electing him?
:shrug:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 07:36 AM
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29. Electing him
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 07:41 AM
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30. Ah.
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 07:42 AM by PeaceNikki
Though it's not a popular opinion around here these days, I agree.

Based on some of the stuff here recently, I'd have thought Cleveland, Ohio was a "Bethlehem" of sorts.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:39 AM
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34. Just one section of Cleveland
Until recently...the rest of the state, not so good although I am hopeful with the election of Sherrod Brown et al.
This is the same state that brought us Ken Blackwell.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 09:15 PM
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154. Eight President were from Ohio and they all sucked.
Its amazing that one state gave us so many mediocre, inconsequential and failed Presidents. Its amazing that Bush isn't from there.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 07:26 AM
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26. Phyllis Diller was one of the first women to do stand-up.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 07:32 AM
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27. Almost all my family is from Ohio
Me and my younger sister were born in Cincinnati, my parents were born in Cleveland and my Dad still lives in the Cinci region. And while I can see that you do hit a lot of good points about the State..I can't COMPLETELY write off the state...There are some nice people there..but
I have said that I would MUCH rather live in Maryland than Ohio and my mom has said to me if she never goes back to Cleveland it will be too soon.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:34 AM
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32. Pennsylvania is really, really bad
1.) my least favorite aunt and cousin live there
2.) my friend got a $400 speeding ticket driving through it
3.) Scranton
4.) I used to live across the river from Philly and I needed to get my passport renewed and I had to visit my aunt anyway, so I figured I'll just drop my application off at the passport office in person and save the postage. I showed up and was told I had to mail it. They couldn't accept it in person even though I was standing right there with all the paperwork
5.) After all that they misspelled my name on my passport causing 10 years of confusion across four continents
6.) Worst flight of my entire life arrived in Philly, second worst flight originated from Philly
7.) Amtrack connection to Philly from Jersey is incredibly stupid and requires you to change trains and waste an hour on the milk train to travel 10 miles into the city
8.) has a town called Intercourse but nobody you'd want to have it with
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:45 PM
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66. The only thing wrong with Pennsylvania is its proximity to New Jersey.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 01:59 PM
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139. You mean Pennsyltucky?
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:36 AM
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33. Anyone who voted Florida, I'm taking notes.
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 09:53 AM by PeterU
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come February, all you little whiners going on about the cold and looking at all the barren trees around you. I'll be laughing my ass off.

For your viewing pleasure:











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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 11:02 AM
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40. Only if the sand fleas, ants, and roaches don't get you first.
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 11:18 AM
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41. Cause you know, those things are exclusive to Florida.
Actually, I had a lot more problems with bugs in Maryland than I ever did in Florida.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 11:40 AM
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42. I lived in Broward county for a whopping 18 months and couldn't abide the insects.
I was a swollen mass of itch the entire time, but the straw that broke the camel's back was when the plastic bumpers of my 1976 Corvette mildewed! I was out of there.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 06:35 AM
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99. I'd much rather have the barren trees in winter
than the heat and humidity of South Florida. Lived there too long and now love living in North Georgia.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:50 AM
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35. What's wrong with driving at Warp Nine?
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:29 PM
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54. It disturbs the homeless guy wedged behind your rear wheel, you heartless bastard.
:eyes:
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 10:04 AM
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37. WAIT A FUCKING MINUTE!!!! YOU'RE DATING FLVEGAN?????
Why I am always out of the loop?


:cry:
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:35 PM
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58. Don't worry, I made that up for comedic effect.
I mean c'mon. flvegan, really?
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:19 PM
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70. Thank God. You really had me going there for a while.
:thumbsup: to you

:thumbsdown: to you know who. Just kiddin'

I LURVE flvegan.
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:00 PM
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46. Missouri, the state where Democrats are more Republican than Republicans...
I'm really pissed off at my state government, at all levels right now.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:35 PM
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57. I sympathize...
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:23 PM
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51. They all suck!!
Nah! All of the states have their really bad sides, but they also have some good too.

I am a glass is half full kinda gal!! :P
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:24 PM
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52. From Ohio we've given you: Paul Newman, Gloria Steinem, Halle Berry,
Beverly D'Angelo, Doris Day, Clark Gable, Toni Morrison, Dean Martin, four of the eight Presidents who died in office (plus three others)..and the list goes on and on. There are large, white-bread sections of Ohio that (culturally) have nothing special to to offer -but the remaining enclaves (Cleveland, with all its warts and decay; Toledo and Columbus ..somewhat) often make up for the blandness everywhere else.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:26 PM
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53. John Glenn, too.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:31 PM
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55. Florida's not the worst state -- it's the best.
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 12:32 PM by SteppingRazor
:P
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:59 PM
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63. Amen, my Sunshine State brother! nt
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:38 PM
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64. I know, it's like everyone hates Florida till they read about it in a Hiassen novel...
and then suddenly, our weirdness becomes entertaining.

Screw you, America! You can't have it both ways!!!! :argh:

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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:51 PM
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77. No, MIAMI becomes entertaining in a weird way
Jacksonville is still Baja Georgia.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:55 PM
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80. Ah, well OK then.
As a South Floridian, I'm cool with that.
:D

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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:57 PM
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81. Don't mess with the Jax!
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 02:59 PM by PeterU
Every square inch of my fine state kicks ass! Jacksonville, Tampa, St. Petersburg, Tallahassee, Orlando, West Palm Beach, Fort Lauderdale, Miami, Pensacola, and Key West, and everywhere in between!
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 04:04 PM
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82. Ocala?
Come on. Ocala doesn't even kick Lakeland's ass.
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 04:07 PM
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83. Umm....let's see....
.....Ocala is good for gassing up your car. I did that there this past weekend on my way to Gainesville. Much cheaper than getting gas on the Turnpike or in Gainesville.

Or was it Wildewood? I forgot. Oh well.

Well, Silver Springs is nice, at least.
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Carnea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 08:38 PM
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94. Ocala is nice horse country and Pinellas Park kicks Lakelands ass. nt
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 09:55 PM
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157. Largo is pretty decent....
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Help_I_Live_In_Idaho Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 12:45 PM
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61. Idaho is the worst and why that is perfect for Idaho
Why Idaho Should Top the List

1. The pot holes are really bad but most of them have dirt roads out of them.

2. It is the only purely third world state in the US and third place isn't bad.

3.There is no other place on earth where 99.9 percent of the people believe in Creationism, but since most of the evolutionists have been killed or starved anyway, this is perfect for state harmony - no religious bickering.

4.It is a right to work state but there is no place to work anyway unless you can prove you are a Mormon or Evangelical so it doesn't matter.

5. There are no rooms or telephones that are not bugged by the right so you can't call your dealer and get him to send you some weed but they can make and sell meth in their barns - It keeps the economy going strong

6. Lots of people move here for the natural beauty and the lack of blacks, Hispanics and other minorities and the presence of the bomb shelters, the automatic weapons, the Neo-Conservatives and the Neo-Nazis. Idaho is a place where everyone agrees with each other because nobody who is progressive will come here.

7. The only TV Channel that is legal is Fox News but most people are retarded so that works perfectly.

8. Most people keep their chickens in the living room - and no chickens are killed by escapees from our many prisons and mental hospitals.

9. Homosexuality is totally taboo but bestiality, and incest (because it is "a family affair" is allowed but, well, kept out of sight.

10. Those who reject the above practices are not raptured and they will be forced to stay on earth in the and take care of the rattlesnakes at church which is compassionate conservatism.
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Sheets of Easter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:41 PM
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65. Sounds like you're in a dreadful state.
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 01:51 PM by King Sandbox
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jane_pippin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:54 PM
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67. Where are you posting from? Shangri La?
:o
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:18 PM
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68. what's with all the florida hate!?!?
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 02:19 PM by KG
ya bunch of florida-haters! just because it sucks in so many ways does mean it isn't a fine place to live so stop saying that!

haters!
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:19 PM
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69. Sunshine and palm tree envy. nt
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:20 PM
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71. yep, esp them northerners, when they're digging their asses out of 4 feet of snow!
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galledgoblin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:53 PM
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79. hey now
I happen to LIKE shoveling snow!



:cry:
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 04:10 PM
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84. Ha! You can't snowboard on sand.
Stop drinking the Haterade.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:35 PM
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72. Yeah, we totally don't get enough sunshine in California.
:rofl:
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:47 PM
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75. California has swimmable ocean envy.
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 02:53 PM by PeterU
Unless you've got your wetsuit handy.

Going to the beach in California consists of sitting on the sand and imagining what it would be like to be swimming in the water.
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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 10:04 AM
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116. Yeah I didn't just go swim at the beach last Sunday
:eyes: Florida blows, just deal with it.
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 10:09 AM
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117. I did too, sans the massive shrinkage.
Not to mention our oranges are actually functional for juicing and not just stand-ins for waxed fruit.

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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 11:00 AM
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121. I'm sorry that we keep our good eating oranges here and don't send any to you
:(

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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 11:02 AM
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122. "Good eating" implies there is some actual juice in them.


Suck on that!
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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 11:07 AM
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125. There's plenty of juice in our oranges if you could pick a good orange
:P
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 09:59 AM
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115. I lived in South Florida most of my life and I am definitely a Florida hater.
Bugs, crime, heat, humidity and nobody speaks English anymore. I finally got fed up and moved up here to the Atlanta area.
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 10:39 AM
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118. Really? I never knew that. nt
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galledgoblin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:45 PM
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73. someday I need to make a cross-country trip
just to confirm everything I've read.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:46 PM
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74. You must be a very miserable person, to have written this.
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NoGOPZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 04:12 PM
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85. One state gave us Ken Blackwell and the other gave us Katherine Harris
This isn't easy.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 04:13 PM
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86. I've never been to Ohio, but I have relatives there
and they seem to like it.

Wheras I HAVE been to Florida, and it is not habitable by humans. It should be left to the cockroaches.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 04:28 PM
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88. Florida
Flvegan's from there. :D
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 04:44 PM
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91. Oklahoma.
I used to go up there and attempt to visit my partner's relatives. Unfortunately, they all tended to blow up like volcanoes if you said some word that would set them off -- like, in one case, "New Orleans". I'm not kidding. This freaked me out. I'm not used to angry people and don't want to be around them. Ever.


It got to the point that we went up there one time to see some friends of his, and as soon as we crossed the Red River, and stopped at the first rest stop, I started crying like I had post traumatic stress. I had NO good memories of going to Oklahoma.

It's full of Bible beaters who are scared shitless of anything or anybody that is different from them.

Parts of Texas are just as bad and I'm a native Texan. It's just that relatively speaking, we're more progressive than Oklahoma or Mississippi.

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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 04:47 PM
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92. I fail to see what's so "awful" about anything you posted about Ohio
It's the "whitest" place on earth? Oh good heavens, no! Not those nasty white people! :eyes: Seriously, I get sick of the petty bigotry against small Midwestern towns that just happen to be 99% white - as if the residents are all hateful racists who run any minorities out of town with torches and pitchforks. There are no minorities because northern Midwestern states weren't slave states and because the towns are so small and out of the way that the only people who live there are the descendants of the farmers who moved there centuries ago. It's not some big racist conspiracy.

Have you ever actually met any Mennonites or Amish people? There is a large Amish settlement near where I am from (another one of those dreadful small white towns in middle America), and they are almost uniformly gentle, kind, peaceful people. That you would mention the presence of Mennonites as a negative presence in a town says far more about you than it does about them.

Yes, believe it or not, there are very small towns that have only a few stoplights. My hometown has two, so I guess it sucks even more than Bluffton, Ohio. It also has no movie theater. We just got a Mexican restaurant, which is the closest thing to exotic food we've ever had in my hometown; obviously, we're all benighted hicks because we don't have Ethopian, Moroccan, or gourment organic vegan bistros.

You know, I don't want to live in my hometown for the rest of my life, because it is too sleepy and boring for me. I've spent enough time in larger towns and cities to grow easily bored of the slow small town life. But I will always bristle when wannabe hipsters think that they can measure their sophistication through the amount of scorn they heap onto small rural towns. I absolutely dare anyone to post such disparaging things about dirt-poor predominantly minority towns in the South or inner city - then we'd see how far the tolerance for this kind of nasty broad-brushing goes.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 10:26 PM
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95. .
:thumbsup:
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 07:42 AM
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107. TRUTH
:woohoo:

Hick-bashing is arguably racism, inarguably classism, and it's exactly as progressive as gay-bashing, anti-semitism, pick a bigotry, any bigotry. You totally nailed it. Thank you.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 08:02 AM
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108. Great post.
As a native of a small mill town in western PA, I thank you. :patriot:
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 10:43 AM
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120. Everything I wanted to say, better than I could have said it.
Thank you.


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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 12:59 PM
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128. Thank you
broad, sweeping generalizations based on limited (or worse, assumed) information is getting tiresome. I left Ohio due to the economy and job situation, not because of the assumptions made by the OP.

:applause:

Well said!
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 01:04 PM
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130. No worries, I am sure WI is equally horrific and "whitebread" to the OP
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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 01:11 PM
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131. ...
probably...

Sigh...
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 01:39 PM
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137. No. Don't you dare sigh. The opinion expressed in the OP helps keep assholes at bay.
See, we're much better off without people who'd broad-brush and make such ignorant assumptions about places that they know nothing of.

Smile, it's really better that certain people keep their ignorant distance. ;)
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 09:36 PM
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155. >>>
:yourock: :yourock: :yourock:
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 08:37 PM
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93. wait...
aren't you in Sacramento?

That's like Paris Hilton complaining that Britney Spears is dumb.
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Sheets of Easter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 07:08 AM
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102. Oh snap.
:rofl:
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 07:13 AM
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103. .
:thumbsup:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 09:48 AM
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114. we are a cow town and that's that.
a couple of good spots here and there but it's cowy.

5 more years and i'm outta here!
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 10:42 AM
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119. Where ya contemplating going, crs?
Nosy fucks want to know. :D
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 11:04 AM
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123. the coast, hopefully. The plan is and hopefully this will work out-
daughter graduates from high school, gets accepted to the college of her choice (please be in ca so we get the in state tuition break) we sell the house and then we rent for a year maybe in Pacifica and then Monterey and maybe Bodega bay until we figure where we want to live permanently and then buy a small condo.

That's what we hope happens, elk grove has been a fine place to live but i have never considered this a permanent address and i really miss living near the coast.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 11:44 AM
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126. That is a great plan.
Edited on Wed Jun-18-08 11:45 AM by Richardo
When we got transferred to CA in 1989 (that long ago? :scared:) we started house hunting in Half Moon Bay and kept going east until we could afford a decent house. We ended up in Tracy. I was working at the foot of Market Street near the Embarcadero so it was quite the 62-mile (one-way) commute.

But man did we like Half Moon Bay.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 11:53 AM
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127. i'm going to half moon bay in september, my best friend is turning 40 so that's where
we're going. Half moon bay is lovely but hella expensive so i doubt we'll look there, well ok maybe i'll look at the mls and dream. Tracy to sf is a long commute because of the traffic, when my husband is actually in the country he drives from elk grove to Cupertino and he just stays there for the week instead of attempting to commute but some of his co workers do drive from sac to the silicon valley everyday.
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 01:26 PM
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136. OMG, post of the week.
:rofl:
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 09:37 PM
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156. LOL
Very good point! :rofl:
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 12:57 AM
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158. LMAO.
Ouch...but that was funny.

:rofl:
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 01:55 AM
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96. It's so funny how midwesterners love to rip on California.
There's at least a little bit of jealousy involved.
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Doug.Goodall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 05:56 AM
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98. Sorry Ohio, but you get the vote
When ever I think of Ohio, I think of the Pretender's song "My City was Gone"

'Way to go OH HI OH!'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb9dFs0KaXA

This is the music Rush Limbaugh hijacked on his show, so I hate the song, I hate Ohio.

Sorry Ohio, nothing personal
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 06:37 AM
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100. I'm not going to rag on a state where someone else lives
Some people may think my state, Illinois, is shitty.
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Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 09:43 AM
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113. I prefer both of them to New Jersey.
No state is 100% bad, but I'm truly bothered by how much of NJ fits its stereotype as a garbage receptacle.
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 11:07 AM
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124. I lived in OH
all my life until I married at 38 and moved to OK where my husband lived. I knew mostly all very liberal people in Columbus.

Trust me, no state has a market on either intelligence or stupidity.
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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 01:01 PM
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129. Amen...
oh no! I've admitted I have an imaginary friend I talk to by saying that word. x(
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 05:28 PM
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146. That's okay, sweetie.
I'm a Christian so I won't hold it against you. LOL Besides, I'm floating in a sea of the religious right all the time...I hear much worse on a daily basis. :eyes:
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 01:20 PM
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133. Everyone should come visit me before dissing Ohio

Party at my house!!! :party: :woohoo:

Seriously though, i *love* my neighborhood of Columbus! It is the gay/artsy/lefty/fun district, and full of some of the smartest and most progressive people i've ever met. There is a ton going on (ComFest next weekend!!! And then the Doo-Dah Parade! :bounce: )

I don't think Iza and i will stay in Ohio, but we'll just be going where the jobs are - i've got nothing bad to say about the Short North. :D

:hi:

:hug:
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 05:18 PM
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145. You do live in the best
Edited on Wed Jun-18-08 05:27 PM by hippywife
part of Columbus, that's for sure. :hi:

But it will be the lesser when you two leave. :cry:
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 09:05 PM
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150. ...

:loveya:

When are you coming to visit so we can go out to dinner??? :hug:
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 09:15 PM
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153. I'm afraid it won't be anytime very soon.
I was just up there in Oct. and we don't get away very often. I wish I had known you then. Definitely would have met you and Iza in the Short North. Maybe you and my sis can get together in my place. Her boyfriend lives very near you.
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Wcross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 05:35 PM
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149. I HATE OHIO! (but not the people who live there)
It isn't the people, its the fact that it is sooooo damn flat. I'm funny that way, I need a couple of hills or better yet some mountains to be comfortable. That stretch of road from Cincinnati to Columbus makes me sleepy! I did enjoy my visit to the Air Force Museum in Dayton though! They have quite the collection of historical aircraft. (It's a guy thing- we like things like that)
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 09:06 PM
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151. You should visit SE Ohio!

I did all my fieldwork down around Athens - it is actually quite beautiful there! Lots of topography, and the Wayne National Forest and Zaleski State Forest. It's the part of Ohio that wasn't steamrolled by glaciers, so it's very hilly. :)
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 01:14 PM
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132. For the pure imbecility and depravity of the residents, Florida wins
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 01:22 PM
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134. Well, I for one, thought this OP was completely tongue in cheek, but
apparently some folks took it seriously. :shrug:
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 01:23 PM
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135. I thought it was funny

and i live in Ohio! :P

:hi:
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Sheets of Easter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 02:23 PM
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140. That's some pretty powerful spin there.
Edited on Wed Jun-18-08 02:24 PM by King Sandbox
Are you her publicist?

I really didn't see anything in the post that lead me to believe she was being tongue-in-cheek. Perhaps I'm dense, or maybe her sense of sarcasm really sucks.


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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 02:24 PM
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141. .
Edited on Wed Jun-18-08 02:25 PM by Midlodemocrat
:eyes:
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Sheets of Easter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 02:27 PM
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142. I saw what you edited.
:D
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 02:28 PM
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143. I know you did. I saw your edit as well.
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Sheets of Easter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 02:30 PM
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144. Then we're even.
:P

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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 05:33 PM
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148. Don't forget Galveston, which is 50 miles South of Houston.
The beaches are horrible.
I can't believe that people consider it a resort.

The beach is brown, and the water is green-brown. Ugh.

People think it's a real beach. UGGGHHH.

:wtf:

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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 09:11 PM
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152. Pine Bluff Arkansas
God what a dump. All the poverty and racism of the old south but with none of the charm.
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