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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:30 PM
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Well.. i've managed to get my feminist blood boiling again
x( how you might ask? just by watching a few of these videos.

we've "come a long way baby" indeed ... i'll be damned if we ever go back. ;) it's sad when you realize that most of those videos were made 50 or less years ago. what's even sadder is the fact that our society, while it has greatly improved, still sets "gender roles" and usually with women that role is staying at home and being a good little wife/mother. at least now a-days most women get to choose whether or not to play the stay-at-home-wife role. still we put a lot of pressure on women that don't stay home with their kids(especially young kids). it is made out that to be a good mother you have to be there at home with your kids 24/7. my mom was a working single mom. i think she did a damn good job raising us. women are honestly still not see as equals to men when it comes to working. for example our culture still sees men as the "breadwinners" and i'll tell you what... when i get married, if i even get married, lol... i'm going to be the damn breadwinner.

:rofl:
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lost-in-nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:33 PM
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1. What on earth are you doing
looking at
FreeRepublic??????

geesh


that crap is scary

Did you take a shower?????

lost



:rofl: :rofl:
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:35 PM
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3. lol.. lord don't even associate me with that name!
:rofl:

i've never been to that site except once. i will never go again :rofl:
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:34 PM
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2. If you were my age I'd totally take that last line as an invitation
to start hitting on you.

'Cause I'd totally be cool with sitting on my ass at home while somebody else does the work. :P

I keed, I keed. I'd probably be a crappy house-husband. I'm messy as hell. Although I am a good cook... hmm...
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:36 PM
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4. i'm a neat freak and an organization freak
whoever ends up stuck with me is one unlucky bastard.. he'll be in hell :rofl:
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:38 PM
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5. Heh... in that case, even if you were my age I'd never try to date you.
I'd drive you INSANE. I'm not unsanitary... I'm just a pack rat who keeps WAY too much stuff that shouldn't be kept, and likes to keep things in nice little piles. Little piles that eventually become big piles. :P
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:41 PM
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6. my mom does that
i hate it! my room is like my safe haven in our house. i am such a neat freak that i my clothes are color coded. i think i have a tad bit of ocd. :rofl:

i keep getting told that when i go to college that'll change. my mom was actually the same way as i am when she was young. god did that change. :rofl:
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:43 PM
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7. My mom is a working woman
She divorced my dad when I was 8 because he was an abusive asshole. I saw him hit her once and that marriage was over right at that moment. She had a job working retail before then, but she went out and got a much better paying, but much more difficult job, after that. She remarried a couple of years later to a nice man but she hung on to her factory job. She swore that from then on out that she would not let herself be dependent on a man no matter how much she loved him. She and my step-father have since led a good life in part thanks to her efforts. And she provided and set a good example for her two children- me and my sister. I love my mom and I'm proud of her. She feels the same way about me.
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:44 PM
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8. sounds like you have an awesome kick-ass mom
:hi:
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:46 PM
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9. I had a good Friend when I lived in California who was an expert ....
...in Electrical Engineering.
His Wife was a Doctor (MD)...After they had their first Daughter, They chose to have him stay home with the Daughter
and her be the breadwinner (She made about 3 times what he did).

Man...oh Man...Did he catch hell from the neighbors ..."Why aren't you working"..."It's not right for the Women to support the family"

I told him more than one time (when People got nosy) to say "Why do you want to know" and "I don't seem to recall prying into YOUR Life"

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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:56 PM
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11. exactly! i think people should make their own choices of who in the family(if anyone) should be the
"stay at home" one. it should be the choice of that person though. it shouldn't be caused by the influence of society, the spouse, or anything other than their own personal decision.
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lizerdbits Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:53 PM
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10. Maybe this will make you laugh
It's satire on sort of what's pissing you off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjxY9rZwNGU
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:57 PM
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13. lol
not really funny though ;)
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lizerdbits Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 07:21 PM
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15. Sorry I guess
Every feminist I know thought it was funny since it wasn't supposed to be serious. Oh well.
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 07:32 PM
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16. Actually
Those were actual beliefs. I'm looking for a decent link about women's health and the detriment of education on them that people used to have. It's disgustingly funny

Here's a quick link I found, I haven't looked through it thoroughly though

http://members.aol.com/VERSAI/society.htm

"EDUCATION
Darwin's theory of evolution provided a formidable argument against women being allowed more than an elementary education. According to the evolutionist, the small less evolved brain of a woman was not equipped to think logically. Women, those who were white and privileged, were taught to read, write and compute to a level at which they could effectively manage a home. Women were skilled at intuition, but they could not adequately grasp knowledge.
Those opposed to women receiving a vigorous educated also easily cited physics based arguments. For a woman's brain to even attempt to understand difficult, intellectual problems, it would have to divert energy from the reproductive organs. This would impair the woman's ability to reproduce. Because the intelligence of a woman can never match that of a man, it is a wasteful sacrifice. An educated, nonproductive woman, in nineteenth century England was considered a waste of ovaries:

Women beware. You are on the brink of destruction. You have hitherto been engaged in crushing your waists, now you are attempting to cultivate your mind. You have been merely dancing all night in the foul air of the ball room; now you are beginning to spend your mornings in study. You have been incessantly stimulating your emotions with concerts and operas; now you are exerting you understanding to learn Greek, and solve propositions in Euclid. Beware!! Science pronounces that the woman who studies is lost"
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lizerdbits Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 07:39 PM
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17. I realize those were actual beliefs
And I also realize that sadly there are people who still believe that. It was pretty funny getting passed around work where most of the women are working while getting graduate degrees or already have them. Because it was a satirical skit is why it was funny, we certainly wouldn't be laughing at 'real' old mini movies such as the ones originally posted.
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 07:45 PM
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18. no need to apologize.. it was a funny satirical take on it
however it's not all too funny since it was reality back then.
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:56 PM
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12. That's funny
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 06:57 PM by ismnotwasm
A couple of co-worker were talking about thier husbands and housework last night, one saying she needed to make "a list" to get him to do domestic chores. This women are nurses and work there asses off full time AND have kids at home.

I am the breadwinner Ava, partly because my husband is disabled with multiple sclerosis. Every single thing he does for me is out of love and respect, an experience I never looked to have from anyone. It's quite nice.

Sometimes small things cause him great effort and pain, yet he does them anyway when he can. He'll cook, or whatever. Whatever he CAN do. He deeply grieved his physical losses and part of his problem is that he "thinks" he should be able to take care of me.

I'm like you though. I'm more independent, and even though I tell him this, part of him has been conditioned to feel he's "less of a man". I'm a radical feminist by definition, and I don't take the male side of things under consideration too often, but in my husband I see how fucked up gender roles and expectations can really be for men.

Women, however live it every day, no matter what their physical capabilities are.

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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 07:01 PM
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14. exactly, the gender roles suck for both sides
and it is totally unfair :(
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 08:13 PM
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19. I have always won my own bread, paid my own way
women who rely on men are the ones who end up in shelters
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 08:20 PM
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20. then how do you explain your undying lust for MOI?
HHHMMM????
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 08:48 PM
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21. you PAY me for your ass-kickings, ye bastid!
that's RIGHT!!! :hi:
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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:57 PM
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22. My mom worked until I was born
and then stayed home for a few years. But when I was 2, my dad developed ulcers and my mother decided that she had better go back to work because she didn't know what might happen to him. That was 52 years ago, right smack dab in the middle of the 1950s when women were supposed to be stay-at-home moms. She continued to work until she was in her 70s and only retired because my dad needed full time care his last 6 months of life. I married late and my husband and I adopted a little girl from China. Because I made a better salary than my husband, we decided that I would continue to work and he would stay home with her until she went to school then he'd get a job. He stayed home with her for 4 years. Only a few weeks ago did he go back to work - and to be perfectly honest, it's a nothing job - he makes $8 an hour and works 3 hours a day at the local school cafeteria, but it means he's home to get the kidlet on the school bus in the morning and retrieve her at night. So, I remain the breadwinner and always will be. It's difficult because frankly we could use 2 real salaries, but it's never going to happen. He has made it clear that he likes working a few hours a week for pin money but has no intentions of ever getting a real job again. I'm glad I never gave up working and don't intend to stop until I absolutely must.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:00 PM
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23. Marry me.
I'll GLADLY sit back and let you do all the work and make all the money. AND I'll promise to respect you in the morning because of it...

:hide:
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 05:27 PM
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24. my new favorite image
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