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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 02:56 PM
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Poll question: Is It Rolling Bob?...the Zimmerman Poll
Edited on Mon Dec-31-07 03:23 PM by Amerigo Vespucci

Sorry, polls are turned off at Level 3.

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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 03:06 PM
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1. According to Bob Dylan himself.....
Nobody did Dylan like the Grateful Dead. From Rolling Stone)


I've always wanted to ask: When a song suddenly appears on a given evening's set list, retrieved from among the hundreds in his back catalog, is it because Dylan's been listening to his old records? "I don't listen to any of my records. When you're inside of it, all you're listening to is a replica. I don't know why somebody would look at the movies they make -- you don't read your books, do you?" Point taken. He expands on the explanation he offered for "Blind Willie McTell": "Strangely enough, sometimes we'll hear a cover of a song and figure we can do it just as well. If somebody else thought so highly of it, why don't I? Some of these arrangements I just take. The Dead did a lot of my songs, and we'd just take the whole arrangement, because they did it better than me. Jerry Garcia could hear the song in all my bad recordings, the song that was buried there. So if I want to sing something different, I just bring out one of them Dead records and see which one I wanna do. I never do that with my records." Speaking of which: "I've heard it said, you've probably heard it said, that all the arrangements change night after night. Well, that's a bunch of bullshit, they don't know what they're talkin' about. The arrangements don't change night after night. The rhythmic structures are different, that's all. You can't change the arrangement night after night -- it's impossible."


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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 03:08 PM
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2. Jerry and Bob and Jimi. You're right.
:toast:
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 03:19 PM
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5. All Along The Watchtower
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 03:44 PM
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14. No other word for it...that was SWEET. n/t/
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 03:32 PM
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11. It's All Over Now...Baby Blue.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT-I6aEh6RM&feature=rela...

take what you have gathered from coincidence.....
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 03:36 PM
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12. Dylan and the Dead...Stuck Inside of Mobile
With the Memphis Blues Again http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmrJ90kvlBU
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 03:43 PM
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13. Dylan and the Dead...Chimes of Freedom
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 03:12 PM
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3. No "Other" ???
I love Dylans versions of his own work, but I also like the fully fleshed out versions done my others.

Like It Ain't Me Babe
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 03:23 PM
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6. no no no it ain't them babe
his version is like an elegy. his version is about memory. why is that guy smiling while he sings those lyrics? they sound good on the chorus, but....okay, have your own opinion then.

do agree that Hendrix owns Watchtower.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 03:27 PM
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8. You're right...
...there have been notable Dylan covers, but I don't think that any cover...with the exception of Jimi...should replace the original.

There's an interesting segment in the "Jimi Hendrix Movie" in which it's made known that Jimi would pull anyone and everyone aside to sing the praises of Bob.

Jimi didn't write a single word or note of "All Along The Watchtower," but I will always view it as a "Hendrix song."

Beyond that, it's a matter of taste, but I will always appreciate Bob as a songwriter AND performer.

:toast:
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 08:19 PM
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20. I'm with you; I appreciate Dylan as both a songwriter and performer...
hell, I also really appreciate him s a master manipulator of other's perceptions and modern celebrity. I think that the fact that he is associated with "rustic tools" such as the acoustic guitar and harmonica leads many people to overlook this aspect of Dylan. Andy Warhol and David Bowie learned it from Dylan.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 03:13 PM
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4. Have you heard the I'm Not There soundtrack?
I really like Cat Power's cover of Stuck Inside of Memphis.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 03:30 PM
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9. No, but I will check it out. Thanks! n/t
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 03:25 PM
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7. Big Bob fan Here..
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NSxaC3aXRjA
Oh Sister
IMHO If you don't get Dylan you haven't actually listened to him
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 03:32 PM
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10. I agree completely...
...I also agree with Ringo Starr in a recent Rolling Stone interview, in which he said that when you go to a Bob Dylan concert, you get the Bob he wants to give you on that particular night.

I've heard Bob mumble and stumble his way through a performance, and I've also heard greatness.

"IT'S ALL BOB."

:-)
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 03:45 PM
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15. Bruce Springsteen, Sting, Tracy Chapman, Peter Gabriel etal...
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Highway61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 04:48 PM
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16. Hummmm, let me see...
Edited on Mon Dec-31-07 04:56 PM by Highway61
If your a Dylan fan...30th anniversary concert is a must...All Along the Watchtower....Neil Young...Good Lord, the guitar alone....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_tJnj2j5kI

My favorite Dylan song.... For Ramona

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=To+Ramona+I...

Thank you Benny for posting earlier on Phish...I LOVE Dylan. Thanks to you I have taken a closer look at Phish....they are growing on me.
Happy New Year!
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 05:36 PM
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17. Right on....Here is something.....
you might dig....part of Phish's Big Cypress show from 12-31-99 thru 1-01-00

http://www.sendspace.com/file/mp8i0j
http://www.sendspace.com/file/3zp6pu
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 05:38 PM
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18. Bob, Jimi, and Jerry!
:woohoo:
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 08:10 PM
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19. After going to his last concert in Boston, I can honestly say that even Dylan doesn't
sing a Bob Dylan song like Dylan.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 09:37 PM
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21. did you see him recently
while he's touring with :loveya: Elvis Costello :loveya: and Amos Lee?
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 10:02 PM
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22. Saw him about 8 months ago (?). And, no, neither Elvis Costello nor Amos Lee was with him.
And Dylan didn't "sing" a single song - he just "talked" them, saying the words.
It was pretty disappointing for people who know every word and are trying to sing along.

;( :mad: :wtf: :thumbsdown: :nuke:
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 10:02 PM
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23. Yes. Saw him, Elvis and Amos in Bridgeport, CT last fall.
Great show!
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