Genre of music loved by millions and yet somehow you can barely contain your loathing for it

[Amerigo Vespucci]

Poll question: Genre of music loved by millions and yet somehow you can barely contain your loathing for it

[BurtWorm]

1. New Age

:puke:

[JVS]

53. Loved by millions?

[kentauros]

55. Likely not "millions" ;)

But count me as one that does love quality new age, like Amethystium, Deuter, Jonathan Goldman, Angel Tears, Laraaji, Layne Redmond, David Hykes, Steven Halpern, Tom Vedvik to name a few :D

[Deep13]

107. yup, definitely puketastic

[New Earth]

131. no!

x( It is so soothing and relaxing. I love it! Now Country makes me want to :puke:

[Deep13]

159. Well, at least we agree on one thing.

:-)

[New Earth]

130. what!?!?!

:spank:

[BurtWorm]

161. If I want relaxing music, I usually listen to period orchestras playing baroque

Or just the sound of rain, surf or wind. Without synthesizers or hyper-reverbed alto saxes mucking it up.

But thanks for the spanking! ;)

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. Country.

Auditory tear gas.

:puke:

[zingaro]

10. Seconded.

Auditory tear gas indeed. :rofl:

[TrogL]

23. Tear gas wears off eventually

the whining of country in your ears never does.

[NewJeffCT]

50. Thirded

and 4thed, if I could.

[racaulk]

52. Fourthed

[SallyMander]

58. Fifthed

The soundtrack of my own personal hell.

[SallyMander]

59. delete

replied in wrong place!

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

170. I worked at country radio station in high school...

Torture. It was even worse in the "bad old days" of Eddie Rabbit and the Kendalls.

[Aristus]

66. Sixthed.

God, I can't stand country. (Except for the aforementioned Mssrs. Cash & Nelson).

[mzteris]

70. Seventhed! n/t

[LynneSin]

74. 8th'd

:D

[flvegan]

75. Nineth'd.

[Phillycat]

77. Tenth'd!

[mike_c]

91. eleventh'd-- POP country sucks long and hard....

It kills brain tissue. Seriously.

[New Earth]

132. 12thed

:puke:
:puke:
:puke:
:puke:

[Jamastiene]

152. Lucky number 13.

I put it in the same category as Southern Rock, or at least those 20 songs everyone in my hometown keeps playing over and over and over again. Country music...how many women actually ever steal a man's truck and dog and go across the railroad tracks while the man sits in a bar crying in his beer? Has that ever really happened?

[Fox Mulder]

156. 14thed...

I think...

:shrug:

[Highway61]

157. 15th

Barf

[baldguy]

160. 16th

[BarenakedLady]

169. Add me here.

[TheFriendlyAnarchist]

185. 18th'ed.

I call for a poll addition.

[Arugula Latte]

3. Corporate Country.

I respect Johnny Cash, Willie, Waylon, a few others.

The rest ... :puke:

Also, I tortured myself by watching a few minutes of some country awards show awhile ago. What's with all the country skanks? It seems like the goal of the women in the audience is to look as trashy as possible. Okay, now I sound very old.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

5. Johnny Cash once took out a full-page ad to "thank" the corporate Nashville folks...

...it was that famous "middle finger" photo of him with accompanying "dry humor" text thanking them for all of their support (which was nonexistent...that was the point).

In a similar move, Buck Owens was harshly criticized for sounding "too rock and roll." He also took out a full page ad and sincerely apologized, renewing his commitment to ONLY release traditional country songs from that point forward.

His next single? Johnny B. Goode.

:rofl:

And Waylon's "Are You Sure Hank Done It This Way" is the quintessential "road-weary musician" lament.

I saw Willie in concert around the time of Emmylou Harris' second album. She was his opening act. I went there to see her. Willie was a bonus.

So yeah, I hate corporate country too, but I grew up with traditional and honky tonk country. It's in my blood, and there is a difference.

:toast:

[SoxFan]

79. The country haters

I think a lot of the hate you see here is based more in cultural profiling than in the actual music. "Eeeewww, country! Yucky rubes who shop at Wal-mart and watch NASCAR! Snicker, snicker"

Yeah, there's a lot of crap on country radio, but you can say the same thing about rock radio. Turn on your average AOR station and you'll hear bananaheads like Nickleback or Buckcherry a hell of a lot more frequently than you'll hear anything creative.

Johnny Cash, Buck Owens, Bill Monroe, Willy, Waylon, Steve Earle, Dwight Yoakum, The Knitters, Dani Leigh, Maria McKee, Kevin Kinney...don't tell me they suck if you haven't actually listened to them.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

140. It's apples & oranges.

I don't get into too many conversations about country music because, yes...there isn't "one" representative style.

I grew up with the music of Chet Atkins, Eddy Arnold, Patsy Cline, Johnny Cash, Buck Owens...it's my roots. I don't care for a lot of the modern country that's "video-ready"...to many divas and too many pretenders in cowboy hats.

It is cultural profiling, and it's not just inbred red state slack-jawed yokels who enjoy country music. I'm sure some people see Toby Keith...who I can't acknowledge as anything more than an overweight, ignorant, talentless asshole...and that becomes their experience with "country music." It goes a lot deeper than that.

For instance, George Harrison counted Atkins as a major influence (and played the Chet Atkins "Country Gentleman" Gretsch guitar for many years).

:toast:

[Jamastiene]

153. Cultural profiling?

Hell, I'm from Wal Mart country where we used to actually have a working NASCAR track in town...and I despise country music with every fiber of my being. :wtf:

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

171. You left out...

about a zillion other singer/songwriter types who make country worthwhile -- and who rarely get played on corporate radio.

But I'll add Allison Krauss to your list. And how's about a little love for Ricky Skaggs and the others who are rediscovering American Roots music?

[Capn Sunshine]

184. ...and what's wrong with BuckCherry?

they so totally kick ASS. Besides Suicide Girls dig'em. :headbang:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdDEJODJ9EQ

[hisownpetard]

117. How do you feel about the Tarantella?

[Amerigo Vespucci]

138. I'll let Gram Parsons speak for me

I can't dance
I never could
I guess my feet don't match
I'd get out there on the floor but
I'm afraid of hurtin' my back
I can't dance
I guess I'm just one of the unfortunate few
So just for a little bit, Baby I'll come out and dance with you

But I can't dance and I'm feelin' so good, yeah
Some of us can, some of us can't
Some of us wih that they could dance
I can't dance
I guess I'm just one of the unfortunate few
So just for a little bit, Baby I'll come out and dance with you

I can't dance and I'm feelin' so good, yeah
Some of us can, some of us can't
Some of us wish that they could dance
I can't dance
I guess I'm just one of the unfortunate few
So just for a little bit, Baby I'll come out and dance with you
Yeah, just for a little bit, Baby I'll come out and dance with you
Yeah, just for a little bit, Baby I'll come out and dance with you

:hi:

[sendero]

125. Exactly..

... "country" is a broad brush. Cash, Jones, Hank, Willie and handful of others owe no apologies to anyone.

Brooks and his ilk suck monkey balls, as do their fans.

[Chovexani]

4. Emo.

[begin_within]

6. Country-pop

[kentauros]

7. I like "old" rap

but not the new kind and certainly not hiphop. And I still don't understand what the "difference" is between the two...

[ghostsofgiants]

19. To quote KRS One...

"Rap is something you do, hip-hop is something you live."

Rap is basically exactly what it is: Rap music. Hip-hop encapsulates an entire culture (including the four elements: rapping, DJing, breakdancing and graffiti.)

I find it ironic that you say you like "old" rap but especially dislike hip-hop when genre of "hip-hop" music is basically the purest form of rap that stays close to the culture and as a result the two are inherently very closely linked.

[kentauros]

26. Then maybe I should clarify it a little more....

The "music" often performed in hiphop is not anything I care for and not at all the same as the old stuff I remember listening to. Too much blending of soul with sampling and whatever else. It simply does not fit together for my ears and tastes.

I love good sampling, sound collage and so on, but hiphop doesn't work for me that way nor with the usual rap lyrics I hear. Public Enemy was really my favorite and it was all social/political based and never (that I recall) all the rest of the crap I hear bits of (sex, "gangsta" violence, materialism and so on.) I'm sure there are artists out there that are akin to my ideas of old rap, but I have not taken the time to find them due to listening to all the other stuff I do like ;)

I don't feel like I'm missing out all the much, really. I don't listen to rap at all, or not on purpose anymore. The odd time one of my favorites is played on public radio, I'll tune in, but for the most part if I start to hear anything of the "new" stuff, I do try and give it a chance. But far more often than not, I change the station or put on a lounge CD :) Even my current favorite Middle Eastern artist, Natacha Atlas, made the "mistake" to me of including one cut that is just too stupid for me to listen to. When she is singing, it's great, but this guest artist she has on Mishmaoul (Princess Julianna) just has too much of an annoying, nasal voice for me to like. Same goes for the lyrics that are voiced/rapped. Too much of a contrast, so I skip that track for the far better voice of Natacha :)

[ghostsofgiants]

28. I suppose I see where you're coming from...

I suppose if you just aren't fond of the aesthetic that's that, though I see modern hip-hop as a natural progression of the old school.

You want good lyrics though?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKM9odw4P6U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jf_8pHCqf4

[kentauros]

33. Yes, those lyrics are good...

but in the first one, the guitar is too out of place to the rap. There's too much of a disconnect to the subject, so it's very distracting to me. Perhaps if the guitar was harsher, like say, Caspar Brotzmann, it would "fit" more. But, were I to hear that one on the radio, I probably wouldn't last long with it due to the reasons mentioned.

Now the second one, The Coup, I like that once so far (it's on as I type) and would likely listen to if heard "cold" on broadcast or online. It has a nice funk sound to it and that fits the beat and his way of voicing the rap :)

But most hiphop that I have the misfortune to hear blaring out of mobile boomboxes or too-loud iPods does not match what you've given examples of, and isn't that the focus of this thread? The over-played, loved by millions genres because they are told to love it? There are some good shows on local public radio that I can hear hiphop on, but again, too much of even that sounds like the corporate stuff so I tune out. If you want to look through KPFT's programs, I know one is of Asian music and often has Asian hiphop. They may have their shows archived, so look for "generasians" (I think that's the show title.) That's about my only exposure to non-corporate hiphop I can think of but should be a good place to start. Houston radio is known by all around here to suck bigtime (commercial radio, that is) so I am likely hearing bits and pieces of the worst corp-radio has to offer for hiphop.

But thank you for pointing out the higher quality stuff :)

[ghostsofgiants]

34. I personally love the guitar on the Sweatshop Union track...

I think it works nicely. Again, personal aesthetic differences, I suppose.

And the "over played loved by millions" thing does not tend to apply to real hip-hop. You sound like you're talking about mainstream rap, which is a whole other beast.

[kentauros]

51. Then obviously I still don't know the "difference".

Rap is sounding like hiphop is sounding like rap is sounding like hiphop is sounding...

I do know for a fact that one of Houston's oldest rock stations changed formats to Spanish Hiphop over a year ago, so if I'm hearing any of that station, then I am definitely hearing hiphop and not rap. But as all I ever hear of hiphop is the music then that's all I know of it and not the rest of the "culture". And it sounds like rap ;)

But I do thank you for pointing out some of the worthwhile bands. I will give a genre a chance if someone recommends certain bands that are considered the quality bands and not just more corporate dreck. I can listen to almost anything or will at least try to.

On any given day, driving to or from work, here's the kind of music you'd hear coming from my sound system:

The Coconut Monkeyrocket
WM Recordings
El Muñecon
Comfort Stand
XTC

[ghostsofgiants]

80. It IS rap...

Think about it in terms of rock music. There are multiple styles of rock music, even though it's all rock music. It's kind of like punk versus new wave. They are both types of rock music, and they both started as essentially the same thing, but eventually diverged into separate entities. Mainstream rap is generally much flashier and materialistic and its beats tend to be oriented towards a club audience so that they can dance. "Hip-hop" tends to focus more on socially conscious, personally expressive, or battle focused lyrics which are designed to show of wordplay and things like that. The beats tend to be designed more to make your head nod than to make you booty shake. There's no distinct line between the two styles and there's always a gray area. Since rap is a relatively young style of music, the divergence isn't as great as it could be, but come on, are you telling me you can't differentiate between styles like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF7E23FLiW4 and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rog7-A2Saws ?

[kentauros]

88. Sure I can tell the difference in the first few seconds there...

but as soon as they start "singing" it's all just rap to my sensibilities. I don't see the line between rap and hiphop. You may, but I hear the same thing other than different music (as in the instruments and melodies played, not the singing, since opera, choir, chant and A Capella are also forms of music not requiring instruments.)

You obviously like this form of expression. I am not one to purposely seek it out. When I happen to hear something I like, I'll listen. Otherwise I find something I want to listen to instead of simply "whatever's on".

Pick a genre you don't care for and then try and discern the differences between different styles as pointed out by those that love that particular style and maybe you'll see my point of view. It's difficult to explain this to those that love it since they are in a position to know the differences versus the rest of us.

Or I could put it even more succinct: I don't really care ;)
As I have pointed out, I do not seek out this genre because I have more than enough other music to listen to and explore. I don't feel like I'm missing so much that it would make one iota of difference to me or the artist if I were to start listening to rap/hiphop today or ten years from now, if at all.

[ghostsofgiants]

89. Like I said below, they're not singing, they're rapping. That's why they're called rappers.

But in that same vein, I can tell the difference between, say, Dolly Parton and The Dixie Chicks even though I hate country music. It's not hard to pick up on differences in aesthetic and style if you pay attention. At least, not to me.

[kentauros]

92. Then perhaps it should be called "expression" instead of

just rapping or singing. I know you don't like anyone calling it "singing" but people will continue to do so if there is a supposed difference between rap and hiphop. If hiphop isn't rap, and yet they are "rapping" you start a boatload of confusion right there. They are "expressing" instead of rapping.

Again, I really don't care. I don't seek out rap to buy it or listen to it because I feel like hearing some rap at that moment. I go with what I know and leave the genres everyone else loves to them :)

[ghostsofgiants]

93. Hip-hop music IS rap.

There's more to hip-hop than just the music, but when we're talking strictly in the sense of music, hip-hop music is rap. It's just a different style of rap than mainstream rap.

[kentauros]

94. Okay

I'm still confused, mainly because there is supposedly a difference between the two and yet there isn't. Again, I don't really care. You love it, and I would not feel my life is lessened in any way without it.

[ghostsofgiants]

96. There is a definite difference, whether you see it or not.

But whatever, if you don't care, I don't care.

[hisownpetard]

119. Why do you like one and not the other, if you don't know what the difference is between the two?

:shrug: :hi:

[kentauros]

141. I like bits and pieces of one and not the "other"

at least as has been explained to me. And yet, I am still interpreting it as "the same yet not the same" if you go back and read what has been pointed out to me ;)

Suffice it to say, I don't feel my life is any less rich and full without understanding the difference between the two, assuming there really is one and y'all aren't just yanking me around
:hi:

[Danger Mouse]

8. There is good rap out there. It's just that nobody listens to it =P

Sage Francis, Buck 65, El-P, Aesop Rock, all awesome rappers.

[kentauros]

11. Okay, thanks :)

I always like the Beastie Boys, Public Enemy and any of the other similar ones with that social message. I'll have to look up the ones you've mentioned :)

[Danger Mouse]

13. Madvillain is also really cool...very creative stuff.

El-P is very harsh, kind of tough to listen to, but I really enjoy it.
Sage Francis is very deep and introspective, and he can be very funny at times.
Buck 65 is creative, weird, and covers many genres besides rap. He's fun to listen to, and has some awesome themes.
All three of these guys put out new albums in 2007, and all three albums are worth checking out.
In particular, Buck 65's earlier album 'Secret House Against' the world, really shows his versatility.

[gmoney]

9. Celtic and Bluegrass

Together or separately

[badgerpup]

12. Cryin', dyin', and pukin' music...

"I was drunk the day my momma got out of prison..."

:hide::yoiks:

[WildEyedLiberal]

14. You need a "more than one of the above" option on your poll

Modern radio-ready rap and country, all of it - horrible

Emo/"pop punk"/trendy high school-chic radio rock like Fall Out Boy, Plain White T's, Panic at the Disco, etc

Artsy pretentious indie rock - I'm talking to you, Interpol, The White Stripes, Arctic Monkeys, etc

Schmaltzy overwrought easy listening ballads - Michael Bolton, Chicago, Richard Marx, and similar pap

Also, this might get me some flames, but...

Jazz. I'm sorry. I do not like jazz. At all. :shrug:

[Amerigo Vespucci]

21. Jazz is an admittedly acquired taste...

Because I'm a musician...I play guitar...I felt obligated for years to "get" jazz. After all, jazz and classical were "serious" music, right?

I have most of everything Miles Davis recorded from "Round About Midnight" through "Pangaea" and "Agharta," his two noise-fusion sets released just prior to his "retirement." I didn't care for his "second coming" stuff at all...Miles performing Michael Jackson and Cyndi Lauper. No thanks.

I also have a pretty good collection of Coltrane. "A Love Supreme" is a pretty powerful statement, and McCoy Tyner's piano on "My Favorite Things" is world-class.

All I can tell you is that at some point the music "kicked in" for me. On "Jack Johnson," for instance, Miles spars with John McLaughlin, Herbie Hancock and Billy Cobham. This is full-throttle music for Highway 1, driving along the California coast.

But I have infinitely more respect for someone who comes right out and says "I do not like jazz" than I do for poseurs who "pretend" to like it. I had to work at it, and there's still a lot of performers who make me shake my head and ask "are you KIDDING me?"

:toast:

[kentauros]

25. And then there's Sun Ra :)

though I do like their stuff. I will forever remember the stunned expressions on the NY audience when SNL had Sun Ra as the music guest

But, I love experimental music, too, be it jazz or strictly "musique concrete". It's the corporate stuff of any genre I usually can't stand, with extreme exceptions.

Nice mention of John McLaughlin up there. I never met anyone else that had even heard of him :)

[WritingIsMyReligion]

114. McLaughlin?? Hell, I know that cat.

Is he really that obscure? :D

[kentauros]

118. To the people I know...

...yes ;)

Then again, I live in Houston

[Midlodemocrat]

43. I cannot stand jazz. Never could. Yuck.

[Arkansas Granny]

57. You get no flames from me for your remarks on jazz. There is some

jazz that I can listen to, even if I don't really appreciate it, but some of it is so discordant that is sets my teeth on edge. It sounds like each musician is just playing their own thing with no regard to what anyone else is playing. I watched the entire PBS series on jazz in an attempt to gain some appreciation and while I enjoyed the discussions and interviews, most of the music just left me cold.

[ProfessorGAC]

60. Pffffffffffttttt!

I had to say something! As a player, the freedom to pursue the harmonic possibilities that jazz encourages is a be-all-end-all for me.

Hope that helps understand why others are into it.
The Professor

[Manifestor_of_Light]

177. Yes, classical & Jazz are the only complex forms of music.

Classical people who get bored go into jazz. Those are the only two forms of music where you can improvise. For an example, look up Jean-Luc Ponty, the violinist. He graduated from the Paris Conservatory with the Grand Prix for outstanding student. And went into jazz.

There are lots of different forms of jazz.

For example, I love Pat Metheny, but he has been putting stuff out lately that sounds like white noise with no structure to it. I don't like that stuff.

Also the stuff that sounds like somebody torturing a pig, that is totally random, I can't handle, either.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

67. You don't like jazz?!?!

:cry: :cry: :cry:

[WildEyedLiberal]

82. Oh noes, don't cry

:P

It's not that I "hate" jazz or anything, but I just have never gotten its appeal. It doesn't inspire animosity in me the way those other genres do. But so many people seem to think that jazz is one of the pinnacles of musical achievement - as Amerigo said, it and classical are considered to be "serious" music for "serious" music connoisseurs. I have listened to it off and on, and I just can't get into it, at all. The music doesn't grab me or inspire me the way other kinds of music can and do. Granted, I have no background in music performance at all, don't know how to play an instrument, can't read music, and my appreciation of music is strictly as a "listener," so maybe that has something to do with it. But I do like classical and very techinical and elaborate guitar (prog rock, metal, etc) so I think it might just be the cacophony of brass instruments that gets on my nerves. I've never been a big fan of trumpets, trombones, etc unless I'm listening to a marching band.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

97. What have you heard from the genre?

It's pretty varied, so I'm sure there'll be something you'll like.

;)

[WildEyedLiberal]

102. Probably

I haven't listened to much. I'm not a fan of mellow loungey style jazz. Some big band swing music is okay if I'm in the right mood. There's usually at least one artist or song I enjoy from every genre of music, even if I dislike the genre as a general rule.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

103. Have you listened to Miles Davis' "Kind of Blue"?

That's the one jazz album that many non-jazz fans own. I've never met someone who didn't like it.

Actually, speaking of big bands, I picked up a 6-LP Reader's Digest (!) box set of Glenn Miller from my local thrift store yesterday.

:woohoo:

[WritingIsMyReligion]

113. Jazz can be something of an acquired taste, particularly the denser stuff.

But swing and big band, particularly the more linear arrangements--how can you not like that? How can one say no to even the most infinitely covered songs, such as "Sing, Sing, Sing" or "In the Mood"?

:crazy:

:P :P

[WildEyedLiberal]

146. I do actually like some big band and swing

I even got into the neo-swing stuff back in the late 90s when I was in high school, and from there kind of had a Sinatra phase. So although I hardly ever listen to that music anymore, I certainly can't say I actively dislike it. I guess it's more the loungey mellow jazz that I don't like. I also haven't truly listened to "greats" like Miles Davis or Duke Ellington or whoever so I can't pass judgment on them either way.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

15. More options, please.

New age wallpaper music, heavy metal, emo, rap, hip hop, corporate country.
Can't stand any of them.

I didn't like Led Zep the FIRST time around either.

[CreekDog]

16. Opera and Christian Rock

:puke:

"To get Christian rock, just sing Jesus instead of 'baby'"

Christian metal is worse.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

22. "To get Christian rock, just sing 'Jesus' instead of 'baby'"

:rofl:

That is so true!

When I first heard Take Six singing Gold Mine, I had NO IDEA it was supposed to be a "Christian" song--until I bought the album and saw that all the occurrences of "you" were capitalized.

One of my former colleagues, a voice instructor, went to hear one of her students sing at an evangelical church. She said that it was odd to see this 19-year-old in a slinky dress, practically swallowing the phallic-looking microphone, and singing "torch songs for Jesus."

[Amerigo Vespucci]

29. The South Park riff on this was pretty spot-on...

...when Eric Cartman discovered the financial rewards of Christian rock.

I once attended an excruciatingly yuppie-fied, non-denominational Christian church in Silicon Valley (at the invitation of a friend). They pride themselves on "high energy Christian music" and Lord Almighty, were these songs BAD.

It was all guitar / bass / drums / electric piano BASHING, and it seemed like every song had a spoken interlude in which the bandleader would whisper "And Jesus, we are so blah blah blah blah blah..."

A whole room full of gator-shirted yuppies doing the "wave" with closed eyes.

Anyone want to tell me Hell isn't real?

:-)

[Kucinich4America]

40. Praise the Lord!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI8ylsHKIMg O8)

[Deep13]

109. opera rules!

[KamaAina]

111. Hank Hill on Christian rock

"You're not making Christianity better, you're just making rock and roll worse!"

[CreekDog]

112. wish i could recommend a post! nt

[Jamastiene]

151. We have a winner.

Good ol' Hank Hill. Every once in a while, he nails it. :thumbsup:

[Jamastiene]

150. There is something inherently wrong with an oxymoron like that.

"Christian" Rock and "Christian" Metal? They kinda suck the rebelliousness right out of the music, don't they?

[Manifestor_of_Light]

176. Ever been to a good opera with Surtitles in English?

The people who say they hate opera have never been to one, in my experience. They think all opera is Brunnhilda in her horns played by Porky Pig. That's the common stereotype.
:banghead:

I can't stand operas by Richard Strauss, and Wagner only rarely.

A melodic opera with surtitles in English over the stage, so you can follow the plot, is invaluable. They have amazing sets and costumes now, and the love duets have just about turned into the horizontal bop.

Try some Puccini (Tosca, Madame Butterfly, La Boheme) or Mozart (Don Giovanni, Marriage of Figaro, The Magic Flute). Or "The Elixir of Love" by Donizetti which is a comedy.

The singers don't just stand and yell. They have to act nowadays.

If you saw a modern production under the guidelines I have laid out, you might like it.

===========
That said, I AGREE that Christian rock is HORRIBLE. If they are so "inspired" why is their music so bad????

[CreekDog]

182. How about a Christian Rock Opera, St. Tommy?

ooooo that would be bad.

[ghostsofgiants]

17. "Classic" rock.

Basically '70s AOR radio stuff.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

172. If I hear "Turn the Page" one more effin' time...

in this lifetime, I'm gonna kill somebody!!

:mad:

[Broken_Hero]

18. Other:

Blues/Jazz

:hide:

[opiate69]

20. I can only pick one??

Damn it!

[Lydia Leftcoast]

24. There's shlock in every genre

but I would never willingly listen to rap, commercialized country, or any type of pop music where skinny young guys scream incoherently over a deafening wall of guitar chords or skanky-looking young women moan tunelessly over a rhythm track. I don't particularly like blues, either. I've never heard emo, so I don't know whether I like it or not.

Jazz is okay, but I'm not into it the way some people are.

These days, I like mostly classical and world music.

[Robeson]

27. Country music.

[Mythsaje]

30. Whole genres?

Everything that might come to mind I can think of exceptions for. I don't know that whole "emo" thing, really, but I don't dismiss anything out of hand.

I'm 41 and I refuse to be fogey-fied.

My Dad cringed when I first introduced him to Metallica, said it sounded like a train.

I can't think of ONE of these genres, or any other that comes to mind, that doesn't include variations I DO like. Even jazz, which I really have little use for, has its exceptions. I've heard some remarkable jazz fusion and some absolutely incredible guitar.

Not a big fan of country. But there's always the 'Chicks, and Willie, and others.

Thrash metal? I always preferred progressive. But even some of it has its merits. Used to love Metallica. Still like much of it before Reload.

[ghostsofgiants]

35. "...said it sounded like a train."

I once said a band (Converge) sounded like a hurricane and meant it as a compliment. :P

[Mythsaje]

37. It was something off Master of Puppets...

Don't even remember which song, anymore.

Music fits my mood.

Was talking to my niece about music a few weeks back and she was talking about some band she liked to listen to when she felt depressed or upset and I told her, "well, that's what it's for."

Music speaks to something elemental within us all, and different music speaks to different people in different voices. What one person likes about something may be exactly what another doesn't.

[Crabby Appleton]

31. sorry I could only vote for one

pop tarts & new rap

I just got the Crossroads 2007 DVD today, I like music performed by musicians, not dancers pretending to "sing"

[Mythsaje]

38. One of those "pop tarts," at least, CAN sing.

Christina, I mean.

[MrSlayer]

32. Country of course.

I'm surprised you do not have it in the list.

[Kucinich4America]

36. Disco

Never liked it, never will. And the prefabricated boyband/girlband crap as well.

[Initech]

39. Adult contemporary

You know - the Michael Bolton, Celine Dion, all that shit. :puke:

[TexasBushwhacker]

69. Yup, that was the one I was looking for n/t

[GoddessOfGuinness]

98. Sounds like a euphemism for porn.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

173. And ironically, it's just about the furthest thing from it!

nt

[GoddessOfGuinness]

181. But when you play that kind of crap

it makes you feel like a prostitute.

[sandnsea]

41. Punk Rock - New Wave

Jumping up and down shit.

[BreweryYardRat]

42. Rap.

:puke:

Worst shit ever.

[TZ]

45. I agree...

I actually like some music in my music...and the hip hop artists who sing knowing they can't sing in tune..thats just like nails on a chalkboard to me.....

[ghostsofgiants]

84. They're not singing, they're rapping. If they were singing they would be called singers, not rappers

However...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsihHoyqwWY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bdc2DL-GWn8

They're not rapping because they can't sing, they're rapping because they like to rap.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

178. Gilbert & Sullivan wrote rap songs.

Back then they were called "patter songs".


LOOK IT UP.

[BlueIris]

44. Most "new" hip-hop. (Think K-Fed.) It's soooo bad.

I'm one of those liberals who feels that rap and hip hop are tolerable as highly important forms of modern poetry. (Plus, some of it's catchy; so sue me.) But almost everything made post 2002 is just...blech. No craft. No style. No lyrics, really. Anyone can make a record nowadays. It's sad.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

71. K-Fed is not a rapper, nor a musician of any discernible talent.

And there's plenty of great hip-hop made post-2002, just not the mainstream stuff.

[ghostsofgiants]

81. Never mention K-Fed and "hip-hop" in the same sentence without including "has nothing to do with"

[hisownpetard]

120. Never mention K-Fed, period.

[ghostsofgiants]

127. THIS is a policy I am 1000% in favour of.

[jmm]

124. Exactly. Nobody who sold less than 10,000 should represent a genre. (n/t)

[Perry Logan]

46. You get to really hating a genre--and then some artist in that genre knocks your socks off.

[Initech]

95. I was that way with rap/hip-hop until I started listening to The Roots.

And getting into George Clinton's P-Funk empire and listening to a lot of the music that he inspired.

[Perry Logan]

47. I get to really hating a genre--and then some artist in that genre knocks my socks off.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

48. Death metal and hair bands of the 1980s, Nu-metal of the 2000s

Terrible stuff. For the most part, the 1980s were a wasteland for good rock music, spare a couple of decent bands (U2, The Cure, REM and a few others). So glad the alt rock scene came on board and ended all that crap.

But now you have death metal's 2000s reincarnation, nu-metal. Just as bad, if not worse. Simply screaming against repetitious and boring guitar riffs and heavy drumming. Yuck.

[Iggo]

76. Different stroke for different folks...

...and so on and so on and scoobee doobee doobee...(or is it shoobee doobee doobee...it's been a loooong time, you know?)

But anyways...U2, The Cure, and REM are what drove me to Metallica, Megadeth, and Slayer. I like my complaint-rock to be more pissed-off than whiny, I guess...lol.

[HughBeaumont]

87. Please explain how death metal has ANYthing to do with bands like Limp Bizkit and hed(pe).

All nu-metal is merely playpen Urban Dance Squad, Biohazard and Faith No More.

Groups like Obituary, Cannibal Corpse, Death and Suffocation in no way begat bullshit like nu-metal. It takes talent to play death metal, not that pogo-stick-with-our-7-strings crapola.

[ghostsofgiants]

90. Glenn Danzig once called nu metal the disco of metal (or something like that) which made me laugh.

And the 80s underground scene was a HAVEN of great rock music. The hardcore and post-punk and alternative scene were great in the 80s. The alternative scene just happened to get some mainstream coverage toward the end of the decade and the beginning of the 90s.

[HughBeaumont]

100. It's more like the Vanilla Ice of metal.

In that it's a shittier-than-shitty pastiche of the genre it's intentionally embarrassing.

[ghostsofgiants]

101. Good call.

[Jamastiene]

154. I wish I could put a smiley in the subject line.

:D Agreed. :thumbsup:

[sniffa]

49. R&B

:puke:

[JVS]

54. Modern or old? I hate the new R&B but the 60's and 70's stuff was awesome

[sniffa]

61. yeah, from pretty much my child hood through today

:puke:

the best is when i'm stuck in traffic and someone's blaring that shit next to me, while singing over it.

[kwassa]

56. Most rock

I don't really loathe it, but it has been repeating itself for decades with little innovation, or serious individual artistry. It is just boring. Same old 4-4 beat.

[Pierre.Suave]

62. I had to pick other because I dislike so many genres...

Country

Pop

New Age

Metal

etc...

I like Classical, Jazz, some Dance Club music and some rock.

Thats it.

[supernova]

63. Pop tarts

I don't get the appeal at all. Never have of most manufactured music.

It commits the greatest sin you can commit in music, IMO. It's souless.

[JVS]

72. mmmmm tarts

[SteppingRazor]

64. I really can't say that I dislike a genre...

I like some more than others, but I can think of at least one artist (or at least a few songs by an artist) in every genre you named that I think are really great.

[dropkickpa]

65. Couldn't pick one

There's always an exception to my dislikes. I'm willing to gave a listen to just about everything. Although some jazz makes me crazy with the "noodling", I like other stuff. Going along with my dislike of noodling, I can say that I hate most everything done by the grateful dead and phish, but they don't count as a genre in and of themselves.

[ceile]

68. Country-like nails on a chalk board.

[annonymous]

73. I voted for rap but also can't stand jazz.

I can't tolerate rap because there are so many swear words and constant references to women as hos. Jazz irritates me with its sheer repetitiveness and extended jam sessions.

[av8rdave]

78. Rap...and most country

somehow a fake twang and steel guitar just don't do it for me.

[Throd]

83. Reggae

I just can't get into that vibe, no matter how much marijuana I smoke.

[Frank Cannon]

123. Amen

God, I hate reggae. It is just incompatible with my nervous system, for some reason.

[LanternWaste]

85. Sheesh! Tough call.... so much to hate in your list.

Sheesh! Tough call. I have to go with All of the Above-- Except British Invasion and Summer of Love.

[Tektonik]

86. No one voted for Southern rock?

Also I'm the only who voted for the British Invasion? I'd have voted for both if I could have.

[Deep13]

108. Sorry dude, that's my favorite popular stuff right there

credence, the who, allman bros, the beatles

[Jamastiene]

149. Agreed on the Southern Rock.

The British Invasion I could stand.

[Bake]

175. That's because you have no taste ...

:rofl:

Bake

[ccinamon]

99. other - classical

violins.....AAARRRGGGHHH.....worse than fingernails on a chalk board

[SKKY]

104. Let me ask you this one question...

...:wtf: is a "Strawberry Alarm Clock" anyway?

[Deep13]

106. "Incense and Peppermint"

it's supposed to be a surreal name

[Deep13]

105. jazz

seems like a bunch of random noises

[Missy Vixen]

110. SMOOTH JAZZ

Just kill me now.

Julie

[Amerigo Vespucci]

128. "The Quiet Storm..."

Oh yeah. Hour after hour after hour of Kenny G...followed by MORE Kenny G.



:rofl:

[THUNDER HANDS]

115. does Christmas music count as a genre?

if so, I hate that.

[mtnester]

116. Why is country not on there? It is one of those genres that really does not have

much of a middle ground. You either like it, or you detest it.

Detest here.:hi:

[Amerigo Vespucci]

122. You're right, don't know how I missed it...

I tried to run the gamut from loud to soft and everything else in between. I also had another category, "Art Rock" (Velvet Underground, etc) that I took off to make room for something else.

:toast:

[hisownpetard]

143. Yup. That's what you get for hittin' the sauce during daylight hours. *Burp!*

[Amerigo Vespucci]

144. Hmm...

Let's see...where did I put that tape of this week's "America's Most Wanted?"

:rofl:

[hisownpetard]

145. S'amatter? You got a problem with the guys I used to date?

P.S. Oooo, you have the cutest smilies, ever. I love it!!

[Amerigo Vespucci]

163. Here's a smiley that reminds me of a YouTube clip I saw recently...

This guy named Guillermo Marconi made a really nice dinner for a woman named Suzie-Q or something like that.

Looks like he went to a lot of trouble, too. Bet he's one hell of a nice guy.

[hisownpetard]

164. Yes, he did a lovely job. Very nice.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

165. HA HA HAAAAAAAAAAA! Once again I'm too fast for you. Read it and WEEP!

Now, even though it is painfully OBVIOUS that I went back and edited my post, from this point FORWARD people are going to read YOUR post, and then read MINE, and then read yours a SECOND time, and think "Wow, she's CRAZY."

They might be saying that already (good chance of it), but NOW it's GUARANTEED!

HA HA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

THAT will teach you to mess with the Marquis de Wonderful!

[hisownpetard]

167. Sorry?

[Amerigo Vespucci]

168. Hey! What the hell IS this, "Sun Tzu's The Art Of War for Posting Threads?" NOT FAIR!

WOW, NOW I get it. You don't play FAIR, do you? Trying to make ME look like the crazy one, ARE YOU?

OK, I want you to take that can full of sand over there, and that empty can too. Use that scoop. One scoop of sand equals one serving of strawberries. NOW...how many servings did YOU have? Put that number of scoops in the can. NEXT?

[hisownpetard]

174. w00t! Oh, my stomach hurts from laughing...

P.S. Great picture of Humphrey Bogart. He looks like he's having his 31st episode of
diarrhea that morning...

[mtnester]

147. I understand

At least you did not have the nerve to categorize it with Southern Rock or Rockabilly...THAT may have been fun to watch

:)

[tigereye]

121. modern country and western

(which actually seems more like rocknroll to me, oddly.)

it's one of the few forms of music that makes me cringe.

[sendero]

126. Zydeco and Tejano..

... anything with a freaking accordion. God that shit makes me ill!

[Xipe Totec]

136. Add this to your hate list, then...

Tejedor - Salton de Teixois

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4I8GNB4w4M

and this:

SUSANA SEIVANE DIRECTO EN LA NUIT CELTIQUE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZiSTBJumMQ

[gemdem]

129. Oh good! Everybody still loves polka!

:rofl:

[New Earth]

133. other than Country

the modern rock on the radio in the last.....like 10 years? I think after around 97 it totally died for me. The era of that first 3 Doors Down hit "Superman" or whatever was like THE last good rock song on mainstream modern rock radio...these days they all fucking sound like Fuel and Nickelback. OMFG PUKE PUKE PUKE PUKE :puke:

[fudge stripe cookays]

134. Contemporary Christian, hands down.

I used to work in a record store. I learned that there was something in every genre that I could enjoy-- obviously some more than others. I had to, or I would have lost my mind.

I'm mostly an alternative gal. My favorite bands are Ned's Atomic Dustbin and the Afghan Whigs. Plus tons of post-punk stuff from the 80s and 90s.

It took me awhile to get into rap, but when I could finally separate the crap from the quality stuff, I bought some Public Enemy and some other mix CDs of stuff. Same with R & B. I liked the first Anita Baker album, and Jeffrey Osborne, plus some other artists here and there.

I love Patsy Cline, Dwight Yoakum, Rodney Crowell, Rosanne Cash, and lots of other country-fied stuff. Also folkies like Joni Mitchell, John Prine, Joe Ely, and the usual Texas music.

I have some classical, jazz and blues that I also love, like Beethoven, Mozart, Sinatra, Chet Baker, Miles Davis, and John Lee Hooker. I dig martini stuff. I've got CDs from Jai Uttal, Caesaria Evoria, Ottmar Liebert, Edith Piaf, Josephine Baker, Alex DeGrassi...so World Music and New Age works for me too.

But of all the music I've heard, CC is vomit-inducing to me in all its forms.

[Highway61]

158. you mean hands up and

waving back a forth...eyes closed....Jeez........ugh! I'm with ya on that one.

[fudge stripe cookays]

183. .

:rofl:

[Xipe Totec]

135. Björk - sui generis faecei nt

[Deja Q]

137. Here's a Björk parody you won't soon forget

(the song that inspired the parody)


(the actual parody)

[Xipe Totec]

139. ROFL!

The parody is better than the original!

:rofl:

[carly denise pt deux]

142. I HATE country music, especially in the past 10 years!

too much for me
Carly

[Jamastiene]

148. Southern Rock.

It's all they ever play around here. If I hear Free Bird one more time I'm going to pull a Daffy Duck and bounce around like an idiot until they call the nice doctors with the white lab coats, needles full of happy juice, and the jacket with arms that button in the back. I need psycho therapy after 37 years of nothing but the same 20 Southern Rock songs playing all around me.

No wonder I like punk. It's the exact opposite and really annoys all the right people. Don't believe me? Wait until someone plays Lynyrd Skynyrd at 3:00am, then break out Courtney Love/Hole's first album. Lights will go on all over the neighborhood. Right then and there they will call an immediate truce in the music war. I swear it's the nuclear option in a music war. Punk rools. Southern Rock drools. Muahahahhahaa. :evilgrin:

Boy, this flame war is gonna be a shit ripper. Break out your :popcorn: now. Be sure to bring extra drinks. Yer gonna need 'em. This should be epic. Commence Civil War Battle #1,706,322...NOW.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

166. "What song is it you wanna hear?"

Skynyrd's standard question, asked at the exact moment in EVERY show in which the audience KNOWS it's time for "Free Bird."

I give 'em extra points for tenacity.

:evilgrin:

[PVnRT]

155. Pretentious indie shit

Someone posted it above, and I agree fully.

Prog rock - spare me your instrumental masturbation. If I wanted to hear someone jack off for an hour, I'd rent gay porn.

Whatever the kind of crap is that Bjork sings. Ugh.

[NewWaveChick1981]

162. Rap, metal, New Country, "country novelty" songs...

:puke:

[liberal1973]

179. Country Music and pop tart

I like the Dixie Chicks, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Johnny Cash and others. But overall could careless about country music.

Tobie keith and reba crap. The next would pop tarts and american idol crap.

[bif]

180. Christmas music

[bigwillq]

186. Country (nt)

[hyphenate]

187. I have no patience with rap

But I dislike most "twang" music as much, and don't get me started on the 1 a.m. "worship" music CD commercials. I had to listen to that crap long enough without letup, and with the unpleasant connotations it carries for me, I'd rather have thumb screws than listen to any of it.

The old country singers had fantastic voices, and it was more soft pop (Jim Reeves, Ray Price, for example), but I don't care for the themes of much of the current vintage. Perhaps their politics is the reason I can't stand them!

There are some singers out there whose music is difficult to categorize, and I can only know what I like or dislike by actually hearing it.