Movie: "The Good Shepherd"

[SPKrazy]

I am disturbed by it.

No spoilers from me.

Just saying.

;(

[Bucky]

1. Well, they took a few liberties. The facts are straight up, but few agents had careers like that.

James Angleton, who was the closest match to Damon's character, didn't kill his own future daughter in law, for instance. Plus Damon was wildly miscast. The real JJ Angleton was more Wally Cox than Matt Damon.

Don't forget you sleep in a softer bed because of bastards like that. The Pax Americana was not a historical accident.

[SPKrazy]

3. hmmm

thanks for the info

they were bastids for sure

all the skull and bones stuff, for real i guess?

[Bucky]

5. No one knows for sure what all the Bonesmen are into.

They were an important feeding source for recruiting agents, but hardly the core of the agency as the movie implied.

[Felix Mala]

2. I kept waiting for something to happen...

It was two and half hours of "something's gonna happen..." with no payoff.

He just went through life being extrememly paranoid. In all that time he supposedly stayed invisible to the Soviets? They never sent anyone after him?

Reading here that the daughter-in-law thing was made up makes me dislike this film even more. I hate violence like that for the sake of violence.

As with the current debate about torture, once your country is no longer a beakon of freedom and justice, what the hell are you protecting anyway? Central heating and three square meals a day? That's what we're supposed to give our lives for?

[Fire Walk With Me]

4. That's the problem with military and intelligence.

In times of peace, they become bored and might look for things to do.

[Bucky]

6. Look up "Founding Fathers" and "standing army"

It's a longstanding problem.

[Fire Walk With Me]

8. Which is exactly why those who -want- a standing army must create enemies, no matter how nebulous.

I know that there were provisions...they were very smart, those folks. Too bad that we can't keep their word as law anymore. It's all been downhill since the power grabs of and after WW2.

[PVnRT]

7. Boring

I could *almost* follow it, but most of the time, I was just wondering when something interesting or at least not melodramatic would happen.