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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 01:32 PM
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This isn't the picture of a happy entertainer, now is it?


If the stunt was intentional, these two people would be smiling, happy and having FUN.

Ms. Jackson is telling the truth.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 01:33 PM
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1. That's the---
"oh, shit, we're fucked", look.
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 01:36 PM
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3. uh, that's more like the
"what the fuck, are you the biggest lamebrained asshole on earth? I ought to have you prosecuted, you prick! Get the fuck away from me!" look.
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 01:46 PM
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10. in that case-
I'm sure that she'll be filing charges...:eyes:
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 01:38 PM
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5. The entire brassiere would have come loose, then
Edited on Tue Feb-03-04 01:39 PM by rocknation
instead of one half of it. It was obviously attached to the leather cup part of her costume. If they didn't plan it, Janet's costume was secretly rigged somehow.


rocknation



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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:15 PM
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22. Nu Bra . Individual grip cups.
Have been worn by entertainers for decades... Cher was wearing them 20 years ago. Now available to the common woman. They have some form of adhesive; the better ones are guaranteed not to come loose if you sweat ;)
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 01:35 PM
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2. intentional?
Problem is, why was she wearing the...whatever you call it, over her nipple? Women really don't go around wearing those things. She'd only have been wearing it if there was some reason she was going to be 'exposed'

'Course, I think the whole thing is WAY overblown. So there was a breast on TV. Big deal. Get over it.

What is this, the Victorian era?
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 01:39 PM
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6. um actually? chicks who are into the piercing thing don't do it for public
attention, it's a very personal thing... it's a private, erotic adornment, not meant for public eyes.
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 01:45 PM
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9. ummm....yeah.
that's how i'd describe Janet Jackson thru the years- privately erotic...:eyes:



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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:03 PM
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13. Very much so. I've worked with her on a couple of shows and she is a
very private individual, not given to entourages, hordes of people around her, or publicity stunts.

She's an entertainer sure, but of all the jacksons, she's the one least in the limelight, and when that limelight is on her, it's well planned, well staged and for the performance of music or acting only.

She's not into self-aggrandizement.

Word from my roadie pals on the gig say it was not planned.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:13 PM
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19. oooooh right, that's why
she'd have live feeds during her trips to her changing room during concerts fed out to massive displays :eyes: This isn't the first time she's slipped a nip.
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:19 PM
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24. if that's the case-
I'm sure that she'll be filing charges in the matter.

otherwise-
it was a pre-planned stunt to give some boost to a sagging career.
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MinnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 01:47 PM
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11. i have to disagree...
...
go to a clothing-optional beach on a hot summer afternoon.
there are lots of people there showing off their latest tat or piercing.
it's almost like "goddamnit i went through hell to get this and i'm going to get some recognition for it.'

i do have to agree with other posters, though...
a.) it was a great football game;
b.) we're stuck in a foreign policy nightmare;
c.) bush has declared open season on the environment..


and the story of the day, of the week, of the year, perhaps, is that a woman's breast was shown on tv.

a friend of mine put it pretty well: we are simultaneously the most sex-starved and sex-saturated society that has ever existed.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:12 PM
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17. We don't huh?
It's called a nipple shield which is a form of a pierced nipple ring that some of us tend to wear at all times so that the hole won't close up. Kind of liked pierced ear-rings. It is way over-blown but what I find way over-blown is people's refusal to admit that this was probably an accident.



Funny you should mention the Victorian era because that's where they originated.

Earliest Nipple Ring
Then known as "bosom rings", this form of bodily adornment originated in Victorian Europe, of all places. In the 1890s in became fashionable among hip Parisian (and later, English) women to pierce their nipples with an anneaux de seins (literally, "ring of the breast"), sometimes wearing one on either side, linked together with a delicate gold chain. The rings enlarged the breasts and heightened their sensitivity, providing continual enjoyment. Wrote one chic Londoner: "…With regard to the experience of wearing these rings, I can only say that they are not in the least uncomfortable or painful. On the contrary, the slight rubbing and slipping of the rings causes in me an extremely titillating feeling, and all my colleagues to whom I have spoken on this subject have confirmed my opinion."

http://www.sexualrecords.com/WSRartifacts.html
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:34 PM
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31. I am a guy with mine pierced and I
hate it when people find out and want me to show them. It is not for everyone to look at.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 01:37 PM
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4. They're acting.
Why else would the costume have a breakaway cup? Why else would JJ have that pointy metal contraption on, it must have been uncomfortable as hell under that leather getup.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 01:40 PM
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7. It's AC-TING!!!


Master thespians!
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:51 PM
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30. Yeah...
But the sad thing is that there's never going to be a straight story.

I can already foresee folks pointing fingers at each other. Jackson has already owned up to it. Said it was her idea, but it went further than she "intended." What the hell is that supposed to mean?

Its pretty obvious that the breast-piece was a tear away. Look at the picture. No torn fabric, nothing. Timberlake has that whole cat "in a seafood store" look. He wasn't shocked, he was gaging the reaction of the crowd. Taking pride in the fact that he was so avant-garde. Then he lies about it. Needless fucking move, dude.

The real tragedy is the hype that this stupid thing has gotten. It was a breast. So what. Folks complain about what the children? Yes, its unfortunate that some folks were shocked out of their sheltered position. Too bad, that's what you get when you watch TV these days, you take your chances. Look at the Madonna/Britney thing. It was a fucking kiss. Bruce Springsteen used to plant a big lip smooch on Clarence Clemmons at the end of every show. No one ever complained about that.

Its publicity/showmanship, nothing less. By stirring up this controversy, JJ and JT have accomplished their mission. Guaranteed album sales will be the biggest result of this.

Don't we have better things to talk about.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:12 PM
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16. LOL... nice pic.
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Gemini Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 01:41 PM
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8. For me personally,
I'm a lot more concerned by the boob in the White House as opposed to Jackson's boob. I can't understand the fuss over a boob.

Other than that, I've seen the pictures and she looked shocked enough.

:dem:
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 01:51 PM
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12. HIS expression creeps me out
wtf is up with that?
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:13 PM
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20. I think that's an "Oh Shit" n/t
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:04 PM
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14. Janet shows fear, Justin shows domination
acting as intended
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:13 PM
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18. Janet Jackson admitted it was intentional.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:17 PM
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23. What she said is that the black portion of her costume was supposed
to come off revealing the lacy red cup underneath. THAT is wat was intentional- not for the entire cup to come off!
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:14 PM
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21. I agree. Thanks... n/t
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:24 PM
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25. It was ALL planned
They are looking like 'sex'
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BigDaddyLove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:30 PM
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26. I'm with you on this one........
for sure.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:37 PM
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27. his hand went up her torso, grabbed the cup, and yanked down.
She didn't grab her exposed breast at first, he didn't look suprised as it happened and this is what JJ had to say about it:

"The decision to have a costume reveal at the end of my halftime show performance was made after final rehearsals. MTV was completely unaware of it," she said. "It was not my intention that it go as far as it did. I apologize to anyone offended - including the audience, MTV, CBS and the NFL."

I think this country is making way too much of it, but I don't think it was an accident.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:48 PM
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29. By the way, how did we miss this at the party?
I know, it was our stimulating conversation, right? :D
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 02:46 PM
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28. It was planned - she said so. They're looking "serious" or "sultry"
or trying too...
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:39 PM
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32. No dear, that breast thingy was staged.
You should notice the look on her face in most of her videos. They all have that serious look. But regardless, it was no big deal to me.
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Braden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:40 PM
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33. looks like two bad actors acting to me.
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NicoleM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:42 PM
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34. If it was an accident
and he was supposed to rip off the black leather but not the red bra, why is there no torn-bra fabric exposed? It wouldn't come off perfectly cleanly if it was accidentally torn. Somebody posted the close-up and I didn't see any bra fragments. Just skin, and the snaps where the black part was attached.

Also, I don't think it makes much sense for him to sing "gonna have you naked by the end of this song" and then take off one layer but leave the boob covered.

I am overthinking this. I just find the idea that it wasn't intentional almost as ridiculous as the act itself.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:53 PM
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35. If it wasn't planned . . .
Why was Justin all happy when he came off stage and told Pat O'Brien that they gave him something to talk about.

Why was she wearing an outfit in the first place?

Why did he rip off her shirt while singing "Gonna see you naked by the end of this song?"

Why isn't she mortified when talking to the Press?
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 03:58 PM
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36. The frilly part was supposed to stay on
Basically, it was supposed to simulate what actually happended, without actually exposing anything.

To those who point out the nipple piercing... if she didn't have it on, the hole would close up. Should she take it out, on the offchance, that the stupid NSYNC guy can't work a fricking costume correctly?
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 04:27 PM
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37. She's looking sultry, he's looking vacant
and brainless, which is a look currently in fashion among white males.
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:22 PM
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38. Howard Stern had a great comment re: this incident:
On his show this morning, he statrted ranting that Cheney was playing golf with Scalia, who would be ruling about him, and nobody is outraged about that--but everyone is totally outraged about Janet Jackson's boob being exposed, which is no big deal.

It was a good comment about things being so out of perspective in this country. It was also good to hear him making a good political comment; maybe he's finally getting disgusted with this administration, as so many others who voted for bush are.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 05:38 PM
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39. Acting! Shakespeare! Thank You!
When life imitates art.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 06:30 PM
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40. Just more shameless self-promotion from another member of...
the very sick Jackson family
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