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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 01:05 AM
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So you think the roaches in your basement are big, check this out.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21906979/

Scientists find fossil of super-sized bug
Sea scorpion, which measured 8 feet long, was once world's biggest bug

University Of Bristol / AP

LONDON - This was a bug that you'd have to look up to and definitely couldn't step on.

British scientists have stumbled across a fossilized claw, part of an ancient sea scorpion, that is of such large proportion it would make the entire creature the biggest bug ever.

How big? Bigger than you, about 2.5 meters, or 8 feet, long.


This is a computer generated image issued by the University of Bristol in England shows a size comparison between a human an ancient sea scorpion.

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RushIsRot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 03:08 AM
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1. I'd hate to stumble upon that in MY kitchen! I'd stop cooking!
Hell, I might even stop eating!

I suspect it wouldn't, but that's just me.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 07:52 AM
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2. We're gonna need a bigger boat.
Or, "I'll be in my bunk."
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 07:54 AM
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3. lol!!
"That's no moon.."
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 07:58 AM
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4. It's not a bug though
It's a crustacean. So it's a better comparison to a lobster than a cockroach.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 11:30 AM
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10. It is a descendent of the scorpion.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 12:05 PM
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13. Scorpions aren't insects
And, scorpions are descendents of it, or its relatives, rather than the other way around.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 01:15 PM
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17. Sorry, had that backwards
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 01:17 PM
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18. Actually scorpions are arachnids
More closely related to spiders... Crustacea is another class in the same phylum (Arthropoda)... yes i am a huge dork :P
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:27 PM
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25. Exactly my point
Crustacea are more closely related to arachnids than insects. There are no marine insects.

Also, while I am expounding, the word "bug" really only applies to the family Hemiptera of the insects. They are known for piercing sucking mouthparts which inject a neurotoxin.
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:41 PM
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26. But both the Crustacea and Hexapoda (insects)
are mandibulates, while the arachnids are chelicerates. I'm pretty sure this would mean crustaceans and insects share a more recent common ancestor than either do with the arachnids, since Chelicerata is considered its own subphylum.

I'm with you on the Hemipterans though.

I love bio-nerds! :loveya:
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:49 PM
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27. Good point. I concede that.
And (I admit I haven't read the article) I wonder if this is supposed to be a real ancestor to the scorpion, or is it just called a scorpion because of how it looks. It may be a crustacean after all.

Long-time bio-nerd here... :)
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:55 PM
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28. It sure looks like a crustacean
but from the article: "Eurypterids, or ancient sea scorpions, are believed to be the extinct aquatic ancestors of today's scorpions and possibly all arachnids, a class of joint-legged, invertebrate animals, including spiders, scorpions, mites and ticks."

Pretty neat to think that the common ancestor of all those terrestrial taxa may in fact have been marine!
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 08:43 AM
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5. I love those things.
It's an arthropod.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:23 AM
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6. I saw that on BBC this morning! They had some great computer animation
showing it attacking and eating other creatures.

Only the British would do that.
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:32 AM
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7. or the...
Discovery Channel...
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 11:58 AM
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12. They do the good stuff in conjunction with the BBC or repackage BBC programing
such as the "Walking with..." films. Often the only difference is a voice over with a dumbed-down script being read by an American actor, the footage is the same.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 01:15 PM
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16. Is this it?
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:34 AM
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8. exactly
I just made another post on that. Fucking thing is huge!!!
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Lord Wortherington Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:38 AM
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9. Scientists discover fossil of alien "grey" next to fossil of giant sea bug.
That anthropomorph was it's last meal maybe.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 11:31 AM
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11. Before or after eating.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 12:14 PM
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14. You call that a large arthropod?
Now THIS is a large arthropod!




I'm gonna need a lot more melted butter...


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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 12:20 PM
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15. wow
that is huge, glad you escaped....

Where is that thing so I know to stay away?

Anyway, I see you must be a jazz fan by your screen name. Hello fellow jazz fan! not enough of us around anymore.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 01:42 PM
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19. It's far enough away. (I think)
That's Kingston SE, Australia. ...about 125 miles south of Adelaide.

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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 01:44 PM
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20. In Jurassic Russia, bug squashes YOU!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:10 PM
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22. Thanks Yakov
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:15 PM
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24. Is truth!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 03:46 PM
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29. Comrade!!!
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 01:46 PM
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21. Jeebus! That is the stuff of nightmares!
:scared:

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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:11 PM
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23. No, this is
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 06:16 PM
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32. Yoiks!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 10:53 PM
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33. I first saw her several years ago.
since then I have had these horrible lesions all over my body.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 03:50 PM
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30. "That's some cockroach."
"Bite your head off, man."
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 03:53 PM
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31. Your can of Raid won't help you now.
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