Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

I'm just discovering "Nirvana".

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU
 
WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 10:51 PM
Original message
I'm just discovering "Nirvana".
Edited on Sat Oct-20-07 10:52 PM by WindRavenX
I was born juust a little too late (1985) to be exposed to them growing up--that, and I had an overprotective mom who wouldn't let me listen to anything on MTV or the radio. Thanks mom :eyes:

But yeah, I downloaded the discograpy w/ bit torrent, and I have to say, they are pretty amazing.

Too bad about their fall :(

I'm blown away by "Smells like Teen Spirit" and "Come As You Are".

I love the raw emotion...

on edit:

What do most people think of Nirvana these days? I know there's a lot of anger and unanswered questions with the death and end of the band, but that's about it. Were they controversial?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 10:52 PM
Response to Original message
1. And now I feel old.
:P
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 10:53 PM
Response to Reply #1
4. lolz, sorry, I do that sometimes
:)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 11:45 PM
Response to Reply #4
14. in 1986, my girlfriend's 9-year-old brother ran up to me, shouting,
"John, come here! You have to hear this cool new song!" The new song turned out to be the Run-D.M.C. remake of "Walk This Way". You're not the first one to make me feel old, damned whippersnapper.

But yes, Nirvana. Nevermind was big the year I graduated from college and moved to Atlanta. Strong memories...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
StrongBad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 10:52 PM
Response to Original message
2. Great stuff.
I think I like "In Utero" more than "Nevermind", but both are extremely excellent. Did you download "Unplugged in New York"? That's also an acoustic gem.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 10:54 PM
Response to Reply #2
6. MTV?
Yeah, I have that one.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 10:53 PM
Response to Original message
3. I was in 8th or 9th grade when Nevermind came out. Changed my life.
:thumbsup:


I don't listen to the band as much anymore, but back in the day, they wer egods as far as I was concerned.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fizzgig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 10:53 PM
Response to Original message
5. i love em
their unplugged is still one of my favorite cds
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 10:55 PM
Response to Original message
7. Psshh, I was born in '85, discovered them when I was 12 and got over them when I was 18.
:P

They're okay, I enjoy the music, but it doesn't blow me away or anything.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 11:20 PM
Response to Reply #7
11. I was born in whatever year makes me 39, discovered them
after my kids moved out and will never get over them.

I'm so happy.

lol
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 11:00 PM
Response to Original message
8. I liked them
Honestly, I think Dave Grohl played a huge part in making them as good as they were. Kurt was a good songwriter, but I think Dave gave them their hooks and sound. In my opinion, "Bleach" was not that good, it wasn't until they got Grohl in the band that they developed their sound.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 11:10 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. Wipers gave them their sound more than anything, as far as I can tell.
The first time I heard D-7 by Wipers I had to double check my Winamp playlist to make sure I hadn't accidentally loaded a Nirvana album.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 11:17 PM
Response to Reply #9
10. So you think between "Bleach" and "Nevermind" they discovered The Wipers?
I'm not that familiar with The Wipers, were they as pop as Nirvana? I thought The Wipers were more punk.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 11:24 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. Listen to Wipers' "Is This Real?" album, especially "D-7," and I think you'll see what I mean.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
opiate69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 11:40 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. Between "Bleach" and "Nevermind", they discovered Butch Vig.
Endino produced "Bleach", but his production input was usually not geared towards "hooks" and radio-ready songwriting.. Vig's was.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lindsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 11:53 PM
Response to Reply #13
15. I'm a 50 y.o. woman and have loved Nirvana from the very
beginning. I'm glad you've discovered them. Kirk Cobain was special..it's hard to say why but he had that special something that only a very few have/had.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 01:55 AM
Response to Original message
16. In deference to the first answering post, "and now I feel old."
Edited on Sun Oct-21-07 02:05 AM by susanna
So do I.

I think Nirvana did some amazing things, truly. I was NOT their biggest fan at the time, though Smells Like Teen Spirit did wake me up a bit.

I would say to your questions: 1) Yes, they were controversial - who remembers the media attacks on "grunge" as some sort of opt-out life and 2) there was certainly some anger, in my own personal case, a "WTF Cobain?!" In summation, I totally love the fact that you're listening now, all these years later, and HEARING them anew. Come As You Are was always a favorite of mine, BTW.

If you can find it, look up the Classic Album series...can't remember the channel that runs them, but they had one on Nirvana and it totally made ME appreciate them more, and I was there at the time. I think you'd enjoy it, especially since you're still learning about them. :-)

on edit: bad punctuation
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 02:12 AM
Response to Reply #16
17. I never felt that our age group's culture was respected...
when our age group, which came to fruition in the 90's, had some of the strongest cultural influences in the last 30 years or so. Grunge, Tarantino, the fact that you can buy items on ebay and search on Google. We were an inventive and artistic generation that was told continually what undermotivated misfits we were and were constantly sold repackaged culture from the 60's. Want to know why Grunge was so cynical and dark? Because growing up in the 1980's sucked. AIDS. Divorce. Drugs. Reagan. The sick focus on getting wealthy. We watched as these idealistic Hippies from the 60's became these selfish sell-outs in the 80's. So why would we ever focus on ideals? Hence Grunge.

I was born in 1975 and I never enjoyed grunge. I still don't, actually. The music was too depressing; HOWEVER, I truly appreciate its honesty and its attempt at being real. NO pretense. That's something else our age group accelerated at.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 10:25 PM
Response to Reply #17
34. Oh, I completely agree.
I was born in '67, so I'm like your grandma or something. :-)

But that's okay, because I still understand your points. I was the only kid left on my block with parents who were still married after the 70s tornado came and went. I too found the 80s a freaking cultural black hole. I remember thinking, "This is it? No thanks." So I was still ripe for what grunge was saying.

The honesty was attractive. When I answered the OP, I wasn't thinking in depth about it. Your post gave me a little cause to pause and reflect, so thanks - I appreciate a little reflection from time to time.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 02:44 AM
Response to Original message
18. I remember the first time I heard Nirvana...
it was sometime in middle school, I'm only a few years older than you. :P All I can remember is that it was the first time I'd heard rock music... and really liked it. Up until then I'd been pretty sheltered too, I'd been exposed to pretty much nothing but classical and oldies. And there it was... something raw and real. Something I could really FEEL.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tafiti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 04:15 AM
Response to Original message
19. A bit overhyped in my opinion.
Don't get me wrong, they were a good band. But crowning them as these supremely amazing music pioneers was a bit over the top for me.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:04 AM
Response to Original message
20. I still love Nirvana AND Courtney Love, speaking of which...
Edited on Sun Oct-21-07 06:41 AM by Jamastiene
I'm ready to add to my ever growing ignore list.

Courtney Love haters check in here to be added to automatic ignore... Come on...Make it easier on me. That way we'll never have to cross paths again. :evilgrin:

On edit:
I'm serious. This is no joke.

:popcorn:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:19 AM
Response to Reply #20
21. I love Courtney too...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:26 AM
Response to Reply #21
22. Have you heard her new stuff?
It's great. She's clean now and has a comeback album ready to come out. You can check some clips of her new music (and some old rarities) out on her myspace page:
www.myspace.com/courtneylove
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:03 AM
Response to Reply #22
23. I will certainly check it out! I have been away from home
and busy moving into my new position...

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
_testify_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 08:37 AM
Response to Original message
24. Best thing to happen b/c of Nirvana is Dave Grohl!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:18 PM
Response to Reply #24
28. Agreed
Personally, I think Dave was the best thing to happen TO Nirvana.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ariana Celeste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:49 AM
Response to Original message
25. I was born in 85 too
I remember listening to them when I was young because my older brother loved them. Then as a teen I listened to them on my own, still do... while I don't think they were the best of the grunge scene I love 'em.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:14 PM
Response to Original message
26. Way to make me feel old!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:17 PM
Response to Original message
27. I couldn't stand their stuff growing up (I was 10 in 1991), and I can't stand their stuff now
But then again I've never had cutting edge tastes in music and I've generally maintained a happy outlook on life.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 08:32 PM
Response to Reply #27
31. Blasphemy!
Blaspheyou!

Blashpeeverybody! :P
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 09:33 PM
Response to Reply #27
33. I always found them completely overrated
I knew they would not last long
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 08:01 AM
Response to Reply #33
45. Careful who you say that around...
or the ass-kickings might go the other direction for once. :scared:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 01:56 PM
Response to Original message
29. There was a phase where I was obsessed with them
It was '94 or so...I think I was in 8th grade. I had a friend of mine make me copy of his CD to a tape for me.

Wow, I'm gonna agree with a few others. I am feeling kinda old now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 02:06 PM
Response to Original message
30. Just now?
You should touch yourself more often.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fran Kubelik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 08:39 PM
Response to Reply #30
32. ha!
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 10:58 PM
Response to Original message
35. I was a huge fan back in the day.
Still am, but in the last 15 or so years, I've expanded my music taste in a billion different directions.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 11:00 PM
Response to Original message
36. Oh yeah? You should discover the Stooges too.
They were way ahead of Nivana.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 11:02 PM
Response to Original message
37. I remember the first time I heard "Teen Spirit" on the radio.
You could instantly tell it was like nothing that had come before it, and that they would be huge.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 11:02 PM
Response to Original message
38. I have the Nevermind CD
and have always loved them. I've thought a movie about them would be a good thing but, Brad Pitt, is getting too old to play Kurt, now. Who could play his part?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 03:39 AM
Response to Reply #38
42. Jake Gyllenhaal?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 11:31 PM
Response to Original message
39. Kurt Groll was on Fresh Air today
it was cool listening to his stories about the band and the dumps they lived in, and how they never discussed how the songs should be structured - they just played em and signalled each other with the music.

Their music still sounds really good.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 12:03 AM
Response to Original message
40. How many lifetimes did it take you?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 12:53 AM
Response to Original message
41. Have you heard their cover of "Lake of Fire" and "Man who sold the world"?
I never get tired of listening to those songs. I love their songs too, but I didn't see these mentioned.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 05:11 AM
Response to Original message
43. "I had an overprotective mom who wouldn't let me listen to anything on MTV or the radio."
Edited on Tue Oct-23-07 05:12 AM by sasquatch
Well I guess that explains the morman thing.
:D
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 07:07 AM
Response to Original message
44. They were a "right place, right time" kind of thing.
Bands like the Melvins, Husker Du, Scratch Acid, Skin Yard, Big Black and to some extent The Pixies had already been doing what they did. They merely added a new voice and marketability to it all.

I liked Bleach better than Nevermind, personally. It's less polished and refined and I have a thing for albums recorded for less than 650 bucks.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 19th 2024, 12:52 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC