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Lethe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:32 PM
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How many people know what 420 means?
Just about everyone I know understands what is going on when "420" is mentioned. But in general, do you think your average person knows what it means? :shrug:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:32 PM
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1. no.
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JANdad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:32 PM
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2. Ummm
I have no clue...sorry :shrug:
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:33 PM
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3. I was a stoner in the 1970s and early 1980s, and I did not know until recently
:rofl:

My excuse? Too stoned!

:rofl:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:33 PM
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4. 1) A hell of a lot of people. 2) No.
Edited on Sat Jun-02-07 09:34 PM by Rabrrrrrr
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:33 PM
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5. ~
:smoke:
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:34 PM
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6. I know it.
I don't think it's that high of a percentage of people who know what it is who are not in that subculture and even still, I think it may be (and I am not sure) a more current slang word.

I asked my friend's mom, who use to smoke the ganja, what time it was and she said 4:20 (it really was) so I said 'Good number' and it went right over her head.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:34 PM
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7. Does anyone know DEFINITIVELY where it came from?
That's the million dollar question that always seems to have many different answers. How did 420 come to be associated with pot?
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:36 PM
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9. Here's one link:
Edited on Sat Jun-02-07 09:36 PM by bigwillq
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:43 PM
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19. Yeah, I've heard that one before
I guess it's possible.
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Lethe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:37 PM
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10. not sure....
i heard it was coined by a group of high school kids in the 70s who used to meet everyday at 4:20pm
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:42 PM
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16. Yeah, I heard that one too
And that's in BigWill's link up above. I guess it's possible but I find it hard to believe that one group of high school stoner's code word spread that far. But oh well, what do I know? When you think about it, where do slang words originate? One person, and then one group, until they gradually become accepted by society at large.

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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:38 PM
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11. I hope I'm not totally embarrassing myself
because I was pretty into the stoner thing back in the day, but I not only didn't know what 420 was but had to find out from my teenagers :rofl:

I think it's what time you get home from school and thus can partake. Are there other versions?
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:45 PM
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20. As I understand it, it is the day and the month you are supposed
to plant. Coined by California marijuana growers.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:58 PM
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30. Myth says it originated at San Rafael High School in the early 70's
Myth: The school is often cited as the origin of the time and codeword 420 in drug culture; originally "420" served as a code word by a group of marijuana users to meet in front of a statue at 4:20 P. M. to consume marijuana in 1971.

Fact: San Rafael borrowed the term from rival Tamalpais High School students. Tam High's clock tower clock broke in 1966 and stopped at 4:20. Dopers at Tam never recognized the clock was broken, but soon realized that every time they smoked pot, it was exactly 4:20.

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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:10 PM
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35. Hahahaha! Must have been some good stuff!
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:19 PM
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37. Directly off the Sausalito tuna boats - pretty good stuff for the sixties
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:52 PM
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50. the clock version has a great ring to it
I can see that happening - starting as an inside joke with a few high school stoners and flowing out to the universe.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 11:50 PM
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58. The clock tower didn't have a bell to ring...
but the famous landmark three-sided clock was busted most of the time I attended the school in the sixties.

I'm happy to report that proper repairs were made in the seventies and it has been a dependable clock ever since.

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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:35 PM
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8. I do know
and I even knew the origin a while ago, but damn now I can't remember :smoke:
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:40 PM
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14. That's because your 420 turned into 24/7 and you burned out your brain cells
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:43 PM
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18. *snort*
:spray:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:47 PM
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22. Poopie
on yoopie!

:silly:
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:49 PM
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25. Only a stoner would say something like that.
:evilgrin:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:56 PM
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29. yeah man...
so what are you sayin'?

:evilgrin:

:smoke:

:rofl:
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:01 PM
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33. Stop saying "groovy" and wearing flowery bell-bottom hip huggers.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:14 PM
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36. hey man, are you like watching me or something?
how did you know that...man are you agent mike?

:rofl:


:D
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:52 PM
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51. Only a stoner would say something like that.
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Dervill Crow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:42 PM
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44. Dude!
I forgot what I was going to say.

Never mind.

:rofl:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:47 PM
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21. What? Who the hell are you?
you seem familiar to me, and that duck, I know I've partied with him or her...


:D

:hi:
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:58 PM
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31. Limited research suggests otherwise...
U of S Research Suggests Marijuana Analogue Stimulates Brain Cell Growth

Oct 13, 2005

A synthetic substance similar to ones found in marijuana stimulates cell growth in regions of the brain associated with anxiety and depression, pointing the way for new treatments for these diseases, according to University of Saskatchewan medical research published today in The Journal of Clinical Investigation.

Xia Zhang, an associate professor in the U of S neuropsychiatry research unit, led the team that tested the effects of HU-210, a potent synthetic cannabinoid similar to a group of compounds found in marijuana. The synthetic version is about 100 times as powerful as THC, the compound responsible for the high experienced by recreational users.

The team found that rats treated with HU-210 on a regular basis showed neurogenesis the growth of new brain cells in the hippocampus. This region of the brain is associated with learning and memory, as well as anxiety and depression.

The effect is the opposite of most legal and illicit drugs such as alcohol, nicotine, heroin, and cocaine.

Most drugs of abuse suppress neurogenesis, Zhang says. Only marijuana promotes neurogenesis.

http://www.usask.ca/research/news/read.php?id=49
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:34 PM
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40. Oh geez
lighten up d00d

we are just kidding around here man

:eyes:
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 11:22 PM
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54. Stop the war on drugs.
:P
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:39 PM
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12. It means Jesus.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:48 PM
Response to Reply #12
23. to some it does
and to some, it means spark one up.

:D
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:51 PM
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28. I forgot to insert the...
:sarcasm:

I really shouldn't be listening to Year Zero while on DU.
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:39 PM
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13. I know and I'm not involved in the culture.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:49 PM
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24. Is there a culture for that?
:shrug:


who knew


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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:41 PM
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15. The secret is out
Even Dopey got the word.



I found out because the term came out just about the time I needed to watch out for my daughter getting involved with it.

:hi:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:50 PM
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27. Oh, well...



dopey says sure d00d :rofl:
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Dervill Crow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:42 PM
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17. I just had to Google "420"--for the second time.
I vaguely remember this topic coming up on DU a year or two ago, and that's when I initially learned what it meant, but I had since forgotten.

:shrug: Damn that presenile dementia . . . :banghead:

So is it common knowledge to most everyone but me?
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:49 PM
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26. I know what you mean man,,,
I think i do

:think:

what were we talking about?


:rofl:
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Dervill Crow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:48 PM
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47. Dude!
You mean "man," like, "hey man"? Or like "man"? Cause I'm, like, a chick. Or actually I AM a chick, albeit an old hippie chick.

This was difficult to punctuate. Did I make myself perfectly clear? :shrug: If not, I can try again. I was born to edit. :rofl:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:50 PM
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49. I know who you are d00d
:rofl:

man like hey man, as in like, how stonered am i now,

hey man, do you get that?

now 'splain it to me... cause i forgot :silly:


:rofl:
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Dervill Crow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:57 PM
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53. 'splain what? eom
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:00 PM
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32. One of the guys who works for me recently
returned from vacation with a "High-Way 420" ball cap. He wore it to work. I asked him what the hell he was thinking. He didn't know what it meant, at least he had an extra cap in his car. He used to partake and hasn't since his heart attack so I know he wasn't lying about knowing what it means.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:02 PM
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34. It's the square root of 176,400.
Why, does it have some other significance?
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:30 PM
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38. Yeah.....
I found out about it about 5 years ago.
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:33 PM
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39. How about 714? n/t
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:35 PM
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41. Rorer or Lemmon? Why am I asking that? It's all good!
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:37 PM
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42. Lemmon, of course. n/t
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Lethe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:38 PM
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43. what is 714?
is that the date of the next Lebowski Festival??
:shrug:
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:42 PM
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45. methaqualone or quaaludes. n/t
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:55 AM
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65. Bastille Day!
Down with the monarchy! :bounce:
Also Woody Guthrie's birthday. :D

Both of those killed fascists. :patriot:
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 03:24 AM
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67. ok, now *that* one I know. I musta gave up the weed b4 the 420 stuff
I had to you understand.........

It totally got in the way of my drinking :beer:
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:43 PM
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46. police code for weed?
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:49 PM
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48. Apparently not
But since I'm a recent college grad, most of my pals know and cherish it well :smoke:
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:53 PM
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52. No, man.
:smoke:
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 11:23 PM
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55. Hell, I'm high right now.
:rofl:
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 11:49 PM
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57. DAMN YOU
::shakes fist in anger::

Haven't smoked in WEEKS...don't know WHEN I will next...AND I have some dank ass shit chillin' in my freezer just waiting to be popped in my pipe.

GRR!!!!! :grr:
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 11:51 PM
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59. Man, sucks to be you.
:hide: :P

I'll hit the pipe a few times in your honor. :rofl:
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 11:44 PM
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56. Dude, it's always 420 somewhere!
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Lethe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 11:52 PM
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60. timezones, dude
Edited on Sat Jun-02-07 11:52 PM by ikhor
for it to be 4:20 somewhere it would have to be 20 minutes after the hour where you live right? cause every timezone is only different in the hours, not minutes right? :P :shrug:


edit: i totally hear that all the time is why i posted this lol
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:15 AM
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61. Man, you so need to 86 your watch and get used to usin a sundial
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:21 AM
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63. Dude if you had a sundial on your wrist you'd always have to face north
So you'd have to have a compass on your other wrist, or wait until nighttine when you could look at the north star so you could see the time. Only then your sundial wouldn't work.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:19 AM
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62. Except in Newfoundland dude
Ask the Newfies.

But 420 is like a state of mind, y'know?.
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Lethe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:31 AM
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66. i hear ya
it's always 420 at my house :P
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:54 AM
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64. I think it's a generational thing
most people my age (under 30) probably know what it means regardless if they partake in it or not
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 03:37 AM
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68. Not a stoner or a smoker, and I know what it means
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