"Loving wife spanking in a Christian Marriage"-Crotchless Pantaloons?

[madrchsod]

"Biblically, a man’s right to chastise and discipline his wife is strongly implied. Just as a parent would never stop to ask permission to chastise his child, a husband should not have to obtain consent to discipline his wife; however, our legal system has put him in the position of having to do so. Just as our culture is turned upside down in so many other things, the traditional Christian marriage is no exception."

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[MsKandice01]

1. OK, now I can safely say...

That I really have seen it all.

[KitchenWitch]

2. Just the thing for the man with the "Virgin-Harlot" fetish!

:eyes:

[jmowreader]

3. So THAT's what they call S&M!

I was confused. Thanks for clearing that up.

[bicentennial_baby]

4. ...

"These split-crotch pantaloons will keep you cool and comfortable while making your husband very happy. "


:rofl:

[supernova]

5. Would he feel

like he was boinking his great-grandma?

:rofl:

:wow: Christian S&M :wtf:

[AggieGal]

25. I have been waiting for these!

Thankfully they are split-crotch. The other versions were such a hassle to remove for..well you know. There can be no delays when getting your grove on.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

6. Christian S&M?? So now I really have seen everything.

[SeattleGirl]

7. ROFL!!!!

No words, no words.....

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Kajsa]

8. Oh, no- Oh, no!

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:rofl:

[camero]

9. Please don't forget to check out our sacred cow pantaloons

He-man woman hater Jesus also available.

[Lyric]

10. Oh god, I found the blog for that Christian Discipline site

http://blog.christiandomesticdiscipline.com/

These women seriously need some psychological counseling. I have never seen such ...unhealthy self-images. Ugh. Consenting adults can do whatever they want, but what the hell kind of example are these women setting for their children? Giving their boys the notion that "physical discipline" of wives is A-Okay, and giving girls the notion that being physically punished by your husband is something normal and acceptable?!

People like this, Should. Not. BREED.

[Pierre.Suave]

12. what teh hell is a

"helpmeet"

I have never heard this word before.

Snip from the blog

"They are educated and intelligent, they voice their opinions, and they are competent helpmeets to their husbands. "

They are apparently so damn intelligent they cant come up with a better word than "helpmeet."

[bicentennial_baby]

13. I just read it....

Xtian Subs...BDSM without the fun... yawn.

[Pierre.Suave]

14. Oh My GOD

I cant believe this.

From the blog:


"When you discipline your wife, for either misbehavior or maintenance it is best to start slow and warm up her bottom, spanking her with less intensity and not going full force right out of the gate.
After a sufficient warm up you will be able to spank her with great intensity and a longer period of time, hence enforcing a proper punishment and the tears that are sure to flow.

Remember to take you time with the discipline, by spanking her longer you will find that the submission from her is greater than one done quick just to get it over with, By spanking her for a greater period of time also shows that you as her HOH take your responsibilities serious.

Most new HOH tend to start of thinking that by bringing her to tears they have accomplished the goal of LDD, this is not entirely true. If you spank with fast, hard swats you will cause her to cry, that is true, but you have failed to take into account what is truly needed. She needs and desires to submit to you and your decisions as her HOH, and by taking time to slow down the spanking and thoroughly punishing her she will find solace and be happier.

To make this a clearer to some, when you cook a steak, and use high heat to seer the top, and then try to eat it you will find the steak cold and unsatisfying, just like a woman might feel after a very brief but hard spanking, yes she cried but only out of pain and learned only pain from the spanking. But slowly warming her bottom up, you will be able to spank her longer.
The painful and longer spanking will allow her to submit to her HOH better, by humbling her, for it is not easy for any woman to lay passively across her HOH's lap and endure a thorough spanking that brings her to tears and submission.

The natural reaction is fight or flight when you feel pain, only by warming up and taking the spanking slow will you allow her to submit on her own to a very painful experience and help her to overcome the fight or flight syndrome. The warm up also allows her to feel love, odd in a way, but she realizes that the punishment and the tears are for her best, she can submit to are very painful spanking without trying to flee if you have done a proper job of warming her bottom up.
Warming her bottom up slowly will also less likely leave bruises even when you continue with harder swats during the discipline or punishment. While some bruising may take place , wide spread and deep bruising is unnecessary and completely avoidable, with the proper use of a warm up.
Warming up your wife's bottom is quite easy, start with lighter and steady even swats that will not overwhelm her are best. If you decide to use an implement rather than you hand pick one that is light weight and flexible, this will give you better control than a heavy one.
When starting with the hand, keep it relaxed, this will give lighter swat and help to ensure a proper warm up."

Linky Link: http://blog.christiandomesticdiscipline.com/2007/04/14/warm-up-is-very-important.aspx

[SeattleGirl]

16. And yet, I bet these are the SAME people who protest adult porn

as being sinful, and would say that BDSM is "unGodly". Hypocrites!

[camero]

43. spanking for maintainence?

:wtf:

The "So-called Christian" loony bin is getting quite full I see.

[Pierre.Suave]

11. Is this real?

If so, I am even more freaked out about these whackos than I was before.

[krispos42]

15. Don't forget the bookstore! ***Contains moderate to slightly severe spanking***

A Week of Rebellion
BY LYDIA RUSSELL

7,500 words

***Contains moderate to slightly severe spanking***

Jill asked Robby for a life of Domestic Discipline, but has found it difficult to really release control and allow him to lead their home. There...

Christmas Shopping
BY LYDIA RUSSELL

Approx. 4,000 words

***Contains moderate spanking***

Luke has been trying to get Anna to go Christmas shopping for weeks, but she has refused forcing them to do it all at the last minute. Anna has a habit of l...

Mirrors
BY DAVID MEYERS

Approx. 4,000 words

***Contains mild to moderate spanking***

During a weekend retreat, Marilyn Bartles struggles to explain to her husband the need to submit. A tender and relevant love story.

Stubborn Ways Collection
BY LYDIA RUSSELL

***Contains moderate and some slightly severe spanking***

Over 25,000 words of the best in spanking romantic fiction by author Lydia Russell! Includes God's Design, The Dishes, Christmas Shopping, and A Week of Reb...

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Captive Dreams
BY LEAH KELLEY

***Contains moderate spanking***

Sam is thrilled to find the wife the Lord has given him until he finds out she’s a mulatto slave, albeit a beautiful one. Will he accept this gift from God, or will he let his prejudic ...

To Train Up A Wife
BY LEAH KELLEY

***Contains moderate spanking*** Jason is tired of living in filth and eating fast food while his wife spends all her time volunteering at the church. When he accidentally witnesses his neighbor’s method of training a wife, wil...

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Many of these are cheap downloads. Hmmm, really pushing that Olde-Time Gospel, aren't they?

<edit: cheap, not free, downloads. My bad>

[Kat45]

35. Whoa! Sounds like S&M porn to me!

Is that what these holier-than-thou types read? :puke:

[krispos42]

37. Sounds more like the Castle Anthrax

"And after the spankings, the oral sex!"

http://www.humorlinks.com.nyud.net:8090/python/pictures/grail/zootgirl.jpg

[LoZoccolo]

42. I am often offended at things, but not shocked by them.

However, these stories have the rare distinction of being something by which I am both offended and shocked. Good find.

[Akoto]

17. ... Wow.

These people sure do have a spanking festish.

Oh, excuse me. I meant a "craving for discipline." :rofl:

[WolverineDG]

18. It's still domestic violence

no matter how tightly they try to wrap it in the Bible.

These people are nuts.

dg

[Manifestor_of_Light]

19. They haven't read Alice Miller, and why beating kids makes little tyrants.

"The Drama of the Gifted Child" etc.
Alice Miller's books are great. They talk about how breaking the child's will by spanking, beating, and other forms of abuse make a nation of Hitlers.
Little obedient kids who grow up into big obedient people who abuse women and children and follow any charismatic leader.

[Pierre.Suave]

23. That pretty much explains

the entire republican party.

Now I know how it came about to the point it is in today.

Thanks.

I need to read these books.

[Danger Mouse]

20. I mean, I love BDSM as much as the next (perverted) guy but...

this is downright creepy.

[fizzgig]

21. you don't like the pantaloons?

guess i'll go cancel my order, then :yoiks:

:rofl:

[Danger Mouse]

22. i can think of much sexier things to put you in.

;)

[Lethe]

24. so what about men who need to be disciplined??

sometimes we have been naughty and need a spanking too....just without the pantaloons

[Left Is Write]

33. Do they make Christian leather schlong pouches?

[caty]

26. If anyone tries

to "warm up my bottom by spanking", I will warm up his crotch by kicking. There may not be any bruises on my bottom, but he will be well covered with them.
I can't believe that in 2007, this kind of crap still gets taken seriously by anyone.

[Left Is Write]

27. People should always take into account historical context when reading the Bible.

In Biblical times, women were considered the property of their husbands.

Fortunately, our culture has turned THAT upside down.

[SPKrazy]

28. It Has?

Wow, I hadn't really noticed that to be true.

:think:


It should be true.

In many ways I don't know that it is so much, especially in fundie areas.

[Left Is Write]

29. No, even among the fundies....

Men are not actually allowed by law to own their wives.

The problem with the fundies is that they are reading the Bible without ever considering its historical context and the fact that it was written by human beings from the perspective of their times.

I wonder how many of them would say that it's okay for a man with a "barren" wife to make babies with the handmaids. After all, that happened in the Bible.

[SPKrazy]

30. owning, well, mebbe not that

but controlling, and "submitting" to their husbands isn't far from that notion.

[Left Is Write]

32. I understand that, but....

I was referring to the sentence that says that disciplining one's wife as one would a child is "strongly implied" in the Bible, and then is followed up by saying our culture has turned everything upside down.

Reading and interpreting the Bible without some critical thinking skills is a bad thing.

[SPKrazy]

34. of course that is true

and i live in the middle of people who read it and selectively take it literally, and selectively take it metaphorically.

:hi:

[Downtown Hound]

31. You mean these husbands never get a spanking from their women?

Geez, I pity them.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

38. Hell no! That's what whorehouses are for!

:rofl:

[Kat45]

36. Shit! It's a woman who owns that Christian DIscipline Store.

That gets me angry. WTF is wrong with some people?

[GoddessOfGuinness]

40. Maybe it's the same woman discussed in this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=961412

[Breeze54]

39. The Wife Rape Fact Sheet

http://www.musc.edu/vawprevention/research/wiferape.shtml

What is Wife Rape?

Wife Rape is the term used to describe sexual acts committed without a person's consent and/or against a person's will by a woman's husband or ex husband. Sexual acts may be committed through physical force, threats of force against her or a third person, or implied harm based on prior assaults causing the woman to fear that physical force will be used if she resists.

When a woman submits to sexual acts out of fear or coercion, it is rape. A wife does not need to be "putting up a good fight" for it to be rape (even according to the law). Sexual acts include but are not limited to penile vaginal intercourse, the insertion of genitals into the mouth or anus, or the insertion of objects into the vagina or anus.

How Common is Wife Rape?

Two studies have documented similar rates among random samples of women:

Ten to fourteen percent of ever-married women have experienced at least one forced sexual assault by a husband or ex-husband (Finkelhor & Yllo, 1985; Russell, 1990).

Studies of battered women staying in shelters and women seeking relationship help show one-third to three-quarters of those asked reported sexual assaults by their husbands or intimate partners.

How are Victims of Wife Rape Different from Other Rape Victims?

Women raped by a partner are violated by someone with whom they share their lives, homes, and possibly children. In addition to the violation of their bodies, they are faced with a betrayal of trust and intimacy. Sadly, victims of wife rape are not likely to see what is being done to them as a violation of their rights. This is no surprise, however, as society has only recently legally recognized wife rape as a crime, and opinion polls show that people still believe that wife rape must be "less harmful" than stranger rape.

:puke:

more..........

[derby378]

41. Ironically, Anton LaVey (Church of Satan grand poobah) might have approved...

IIRC, LaVey encouraged female Satanists to wear full-coverage panties because of the "more to show" philosophy when seducing and tempting men. He would have had no use for Christian BDSM aficionados themselves, but those pantaloons might have given him some creative ideas.

If any of the DU Satanists want to debunk me on this point, feel free to jump in...