so, have you seen zodiac yet?

[wildhorses]

even knowing the ending and i was still scared shitless:scared:


please stay up and keep me company....


i know the boogeyman is right outside my window:scared:


i just KNOW it!!!

[Lex]

1. It was fantastic. I saw it twice (which I never want to do with a film).

I wrote a review about it here at DU earlier:

"It was a great movie. And here's one reason why: it was beautifully, beautifully filmed. I'm so glad to have seen it on the big screen. It was richly and accurately set for the times--the majority of the film is set in the late 60's to mid 70's and everything was just right, but not overly done with cliched 70's stuff. The lighting was perfect too in every scene. It was visually very pleasing. Some breath-taking shots of San Fransisco--especially an aerial of the Golden Gate bridge in the fog (but the best one I've ever seen), and one of the TransAmerica building being built in one amazing shot.

The movie was taut with suspense. It was over 2 and 1/2 hours long but it never felt like it. Even though it's based on a true story, which it kept very true to, it still reminded me of a suspenseful Hitchcock film.

Jake Gyllenhall and Robert Downey Jr. were excellent. They are exceptional actors. Downey could very well score a best supporting actor Oscar nod (imho)."

[wildhorses]

2. i agree with everything you say except that

it came out to DAMN early...

i fear it will get lost in the end of the year shuffle when it comes time for the oscar nominations

and that is a shame

downey is brilliant!!!

[Lex]

8. They tried to get it released in time to make this year's nominations

but they didn't make it in time. (I read that somewhere but don't remember where.)

Too bad about that.

[wildhorses]

12. it is a shame

everything about this movie rang true

do you think it was arthur leigh allen?

why didn't they pursue the vaughn/wallace angle?

i thought i would shit my pants when graysmith followed him down into the basement :scared:

[ghostsofgiants]

16. Have you read Graysmith's books?

I think I'd have to have read those to really comment about why they didn't pursue the Vaughn/Wallace angle.

[wildhorses]

18. no, i haven't

but, will now...

i thought perhaps you had already:shrug:

[ghostsofgiants]

20. I read parts when I was younger, but that was a few years ago.

[wildhorses]

21. we should read and get back to each other

however the movie left me feeling that allen was THE one:shrug:

[ghostsofgiants]

25. Once I'm finished school for the semester, I just might do that.

[wildhorses]

27. alrighty then---deal!!

:bounce:catch up with ya sometime about june-ish??

[MnFats]

45. many think Graysmith was/is full of s***

check www.zodiackiller.com

that's an excellent site with frequent interesting updates.

they detest Graysmith

[wildhorses]

46. thanks for the input--but,

i will have to wait until the light of day to click on the link:scared:


what is your theory??


have you seen the film?

thanks for posting:hi:

[MnFats]

49. i have no theory other than it's a stupefying case...

...except that Zodiac may have been two people working in concert.
..but that theory gets shot up too.

anyway...there are clearly some inaccuracies in Graysmith's book.
however, on some of the sites, like the one i mentioned above, there is material that suggests Zodiac was far more active than anyone believes.
and there may be copycats active today.

sounds unbelievable I know....but snoop around on the web....warning: you will get addicted to this case.... guaranteed.
and it will frequently scare the shit out of you..

no, i haven't seen the film, to answer your question...but I will....

[Lex]

22. There are so many theories still floating around.

Lots of people say Graysmith's book (on which the movie was based) wasn't accurate and that it wasn't Arthur Leigh Allen at all. People have been posting about the case for years here: www.zodiackiller.com and it has some interesting information.

I really don't know if I think it was Arthur Leigh Allen. Maybe. The movie was well done, though.

[wildhorses]

23. well, it would be MOST reassuring if it had been

allen...since he is dead and gone!!!

i can NOT click on that link right now...it is DARK outside and i just KNOW the boogeyman is out there:scared:

[Lex]

26. I think whoever it was is probably dead now

or locked up in prison. I don't think he could stand not garnering attention for himself in some way if he was able to right now.

So you are safe! IMHO. :hi:

[wildhorses]

28. ha ha and i am a WHOLE continent away

the effect of the movie is finally starting to wear off

but, i swear!!!

the way they filmed it...everyone just seemed a tad 'off'

and then the really bizarre ones:scared:

from the start...the way they filmed that chick with the braces....

i was scared from the get go:silly:

[Lex]

30. you are in NC

just like I am? *cue spooky laughter*


(Jus' kidding.)

[wildhorses]

31. ---

:rofl:

i know why i am still up


but....



WHY are you??

:rofl:


you are zodiac...i jus KNOW it:scared:



i keed---i keed;)

[Lex]

33. I am such a night owl

and of course in the mornings I feel like total hell.


Besides I would've been a wee baby when the Zodiac was doing his evil deeds!

Goin' to bed now. G'night. :boring:

[wildhorses]

34. nitye nite

:hug:

[ghostsofgiants]

24. That's one of the things that makes it so compelling...

We don't know, there's still plenty of mystery around the case.

That website was my browser's homepage when I was 15. :P

[wildhorses]

29. cool, you are an 'expert' then ---

will definitely expect another thread on theories...etc

[CaliforniaPeggy]

3. My dear wildhorses.....

:hug: You're OK, sweetie.....we're all here, and you are not alone...

I do plan to see it, but I'll wait for the DVD....

Don't go to movies in the theater anymore.....

It's more fun at home, IMHO!

:loveya: :hug:

[wildhorses]

5. thanks, peg

:hug:


i love watching movies in the comfort of my own home

but, i LOVE the big screen:bounce:

being in california i am sure this movie will resonate

[CaliforniaPeggy]

6. You're welcome, sweetie.....

I'm sure the movie will resonate here...

And I love the big screen too.......but it comes at too high a price...

:hug:

[SPKrazy]

4. can i howd your hand?

:scared:

i haven't even seen it and it makes me nervous just hearing you talk about it.

(and i'm writing in lower case again, what is that, am i so co-dependent that i just do what the others do? or is it just wildhorses that does it to me?)

:hug:

[wildhorses]

7. thanks for being here

:rofl::hug::hi:

i don't know how i evolved into all lower case...

think it was a combination of drinking and typing one night and just could not be bothered with the shift key....

drunk logic, i know:crazy:

[SPKrazy]

9. but i understand so well...

how it happens, the shift key is a pain, especially on a laptop

:eyes:

i'm glad to be here with the wildhorsey

:hug:

[idgiehkt]

10. I will probably watch it when it comes out on video

or on tv. I don't know much about the story and am avoiding learning about it so I will not be familiar with it when I watch it. But all I do is watch crime and forensics shows lately. I am now hooked on staying up til 2:00 a.m every night to watch Da Vinci's Inquest, which is about a coroner in Canada and the cops he works with. I got hooked on it when I was sick and sleeping all day and sitting up all night and now I can't let go, lol.

[ghostsofgiants]

13. I was really interested in the Zodiac when I was younger.

It was actually kinda cool recognizing parts of it.

The film is top notch though. Definitely worth a DVD rental at the very least.

[wildhorses]

15. definitely worth a view

and don't know how much flavor it will lose when it goes to a smaller screen...

but, some of the ambiance will go i am sure:shrug:

[idgiehkt]

17. I'm a big ol' weenie, so that's a good thing.

I get scared too easily. I just saw "The Blair Witch Project" this past year, after all this time, lol, and even knowing it was fake it scared me. :hi:

[wildhorses]

19. seems like the older i get---

the more susceptible i am about all this stuff

[ghostsofgiants]

11. Such a good film.

That scene at the projectionist's house...fuck. Intense.

[wildhorses]

14. hell yeah!!!

:scared:please see my post #12 in this thread:hi:

[Zookeeper]

32. Yes, I saw it recently....

I couldn't stop analyzing the film and investigation. When I stopped at the grocery store afterwards, everyone looked creepy to me and it seemed eerily quiet....:scared:

[wildhorses]

35. how did they get that affect/effect??

i am too scared to worry about grammar at the moment:scared:

it was excellently done imho

[Zookeeper]

37. I think watching it required a level of concentration....

and thought that made a longer lasting impression than most of the throw-away movies made now.

It didn't really leave me feeling scared, just kind of unsettled and frustrated that the case was never solved.

And, yes, I thought it was a very good film!

[SPKrazy]

36. Perhaps it was eerily quiet

and people do look creepy

people are strange, when they are strangers,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHiWE1GWApg


:hi:



:rofl:



:hug:

[Zookeeper]

38. Well, you certainly have a point...

I was probably looking a little spooky myself after seeing that movie.

:hi:

:hug:

(Check your MySpace messages, BTW.)

[SPKrazy]

39. Creeping Around...

looking suspiciously at every shopper... watching them all closely... is he watching me? What about her, did she look at me funny?

What about the clerk?... Were they holding that magazine a minute ago?

:scared:

:rofl:



:hug:

[wildhorses]

40. are ya TRYING to make me paranoid??

like i am NOT schizo already!!

:rofl:

thanks for the doors


:hug:

[Oeditpus Rex]

41. No, and I want to

since I lived like 100 miles south of San Francisco and read the Chronicle every day. I still remember the cryptic letters on the front page.

[wildhorses]

42. oeddie

you will really appreciate this film...please, pm me or start a thread when you do see it:hi:

good to see ya tonite:hug:

[Oeditpus Rex]

43. I know

I wanna see it with my friend who also used to work at the newspaper.

Some of us love "All the President's Men" for more than just the history, too. :7

[wildhorses]

44. that 'personal' angle

is the very thing...

and you will NEVER think of donovan's hurdy gurdy man the same

i promise:scared:

[Awsi Dooger]

47. I'm hoping they'll show it during my Hawaiian cruise next month

On NCL. In 2005 I took a cruise to Alaska and they had popular movies about 2-4 months old. Zodiac is probably going to be too new to make it into the NCL rotation at that point but I'm willing to gamble. Sounds like such a perfect movie for a relaxing cruise ship atmosphere.

IMO, Arthur Leigh Allen was nothing but a frump, one of the worst suspects of all time in a major case. I threw him out within 10 minutes of stumbling onto that zodiackiller.com message board about 5 years ago.

I'd love to wager the Zodiac's true identity has never surfaced, among suspects of any level.

The joke suspect is Ted Kaczynski. That took less than 10 minutes. Kaczynski was an articulate and educated guy who properly called people "who" and not "that." Check out his manifesto. You can't find one botched reference to a person as "that." Yet Zodiac did it all the time in his known writings, mixing who and that about 50/50, which is normal among the population. Most people agree Zodiac said, "I'm the one THAT did it," in his famous phone call to police. Kaczynski would never have been that inept.

[riverdeep]

48. Enjoy the movie,

just know that like most of what comes out of Hollywood, it's fabrication. I almost like Hollywood better when they make stuff out of whole cloth because people don't have as distorted a view of what they now consider reality.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

50. Great movie.

I thought it was very interesting, there wasn't any particular scene that stood out to sell the movie. But everything fit together well and the final product was more than the sum of its parts.

[Phillycat]

51. Horribly, horribly boring.

That said, it was well-acted and directed, and the camera work is AMAZING. But it drags so badly in the second half that I thought I might nod off. Not scary at all, actually, and I'm usually scared by everything.