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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 02:36 PM
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The Revenge of Nancy Kerrigan


Here’s a lesson to America’s young: Revenge is best served old and bloated. Look long and hard at the above picture of ex-figure skater Tonya Harding, famous for hiring her ex-husb to injure Nancy Kerrigan during the 1994 Olympics. Are you staring? Because after a while, much like a late 90’s stereogram, you will begin to see a hidden three-dimensional image of failure, jealousy, trailer parks, binge eating, fried things, lead pipes and, oh yes, drug use. According to recent police investigation, Harding was acting “tweaked out”:


He described her as “very agitated” and “glancing everywhere.” He noted that the former star skater was “frustrated others can’t see the people she sees.”

Later the same morning, about 9 a.m., police received another call regarding Harding, this time from a friend who told authorities the skater was “tweaking out, seeing animals.”

http://www.bestweekever.tv/2007/03/15/nancy-kerrigans-ultimate-revenge/
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 02:38 PM
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1. Yep, Karma's a bitch, innit?
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 02:41 PM
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2. It takes time, but the shit you dish out will always be served back to you.
It's Fate's guarantee.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 02:42 PM
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3. Yeah I posted this one yesterday!
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 02:45 PM
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4. is she stiLL boxing?
i'm waiting for that to faiL since the next obvious vocation is fetish fiLm star*. :yoiks:






* soon to be foLLowed by robbing a Liquor store.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 02:45 PM
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6. She was, but she cancelled out of her last match.
:hi:
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 02:45 PM
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5. I don't think that's a bad picture.
And I used to live in a trailer and hate seeing that stereotype here. It really makes me cringe. :(
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 02:49 PM
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7. well said
Plus, Nancy Kerrigan is not so nice, either.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 02:54 PM
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9. I don't care for Kerrigan either
but she could have been permanently crippled, which she most definitely did not deserve.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 03:17 PM
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16. Between Harding and Baiul, she caught some tough breaks
Christne Brennan argues pretty successfully in this book
http://www.amazon.com/Inside-Edge-Revealing-Journey-Skating/dp/0385486073/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-5013703-9684164?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1174076103&sr=8-1#sipbody

that Kerrigan should have beaten Baiul in the Olympics that year
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 04:19 PM
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38. That's nonsense, IMHO
I will never, never forget Oksana Baiul's skate that year. It was literally breathtaking. I remember just gasping. Nancy Kerrigan was competent, that's all.

I never liked the way Tanya Harding skated, but I think that at some level she was wronged by the skating community, who didn't really know what to do with someone who didn't fit in with all the ice princesses. She liked to smoke, and play pool, and she clearly was rural - I think they shut her out of their little clique.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 05:02 PM
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46. Brennan does a complex breakdown of the scoring.
You should really check the book out and read what she has to say. I never questioned Bauil's victory until I read the book but Brennan makes a compelling argument. There are a lot of skating fans who think Baiul was overrated from the beginning and it hindered her later on. And yes the USFSA likes to freeze out skater who they don't feel represent the image they want to promote, Brennan talks about that in the book as well. Read the book, it's incredibly interesting.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 05:04 PM
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47. Yes, it sounds good. I'll look for it.
I was sorry that Oksana faded after that but that really was one of the skates of the century. Nancy Kerrigan seemed absolutely wooden in comparison. I've heard the scoring argument before and I'm sure it's a good one, but I really thought Oksana outskated her that day.

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Fran Kubelik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 03:22 PM
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20. Thank you.
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 03:23 PM
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21. I loved my trailer...
...better than the house I'm in now and my neighbors were hard working and friendly. Not narcissistic assholes like in the uppity neighborhood where my cousin and her narcissistic asshole husband lives. They don't even know their next door neighbor's names she said once and if someone buys a new car or jetskis they have to leave them parked outside the garage for a few days so everyone can see them.

Yep....I'll take and keep the simple life and be proud of it too.

BTW...Hi MrsG :hi:
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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 03:35 PM
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27. I agree. I don't think it's such an awful picture.
And the stereotypes, all of them in this article, make me cringe too.
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Nicole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 02:52 PM
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8. More revenge for Nancy
Seeing Tonya knocked down.

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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 02:55 PM
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10. To hell with Nancy Kerrigan
She's a prima donna who cahsed in one one above average performance in one Olympics. If she had never been attacked, we might never have heard of her.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 02:56 PM
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11. Can we please lose the 'trailer park' bit?
I find it insulting.

Thank you.

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 03:05 PM
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12. Oooh I'll bet her booty is even bigger now
BTW that is the only reason that guys cared anything about this story.

Trailer park booty

You know perhaps she should look into a good cleansing

:bounce:
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 03:11 PM
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13. I always had empathy for Tonya Harding.
Edited on Fri Mar-16-07 03:12 PM by Evoman
I think its really tough for her...I mean Nancy Kerrigan seemed liked the kids in high school who had the world delivered to them. Pretty, perfect..good family, good upbringing. And here was this other girl....full of talent, but from a very poor family. She tried her best but she was always second best. I can imagine how tough it was for her...not that that excuses her behaviour, or her unsportsmanlike conduct, but its understandable. I kind of went what she goes through..I grew up in a real poor family, and most of my peers when I was younger turned out to be drug dealers, or ended up in jail. I work my ass off...get to university...and the place is full of Nancy Kerrigans...people who have nice cars, live with their parents, have food in their fridge, have their university paid for (but not only that, they still get scholarships that they can basically blow on computers, etc). Not that I blame them...but its hard to live a life where its hard to compete because you didn't have the upbringing others had.

Here is an excerpt from her biography



"Childhood was extremely difficult. Her mother was allegedly abusive and her father suffered from physical problems that often prevented him from working. Her family had little money and stability. Growing up, Tonya had eight different addresses in the Portland area. She married Jeff Gillooly in 1990, when she was 19. Tonya filed several complaints with police during their three year marriage."
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 03:13 PM
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14. Kerrigan
is also from a working class background. Her father was a welder. She looked the part of an upper-middle class American princess, but she had little poise and tact so things kind of went south when she opened her mouth.
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 03:15 PM
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15. There is a difference, I contend, in being working class
and having a father who is a welder, and being POOR, and having a dad who didn't work at all. Although, maybe my characterization of Kerrigan is unfair...but I still sympathize.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 03:20 PM
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18. I think what is sad is that
neither is/was allowed to just be the woman they are, without denigration. But that's figure skating for you, it demands it's ice princess, which is why we can't get rid of Michele Kwan, lol.
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 03:21 PM
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19. Michele Kwan is hot though.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 03:24 PM
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22. Ick
She's rumored to be engaged to the sun of fundie billionaire. :puke:
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 03:26 PM
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23. You gotta be hot to be engaged to the sun of a fundie
billionaire, I suppose. Is the son a fundie too?
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 03:30 PM
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25. I think when you are talking about that kind of cash
If you aren't a fundie then you at least pretend to be. Of course he is. They are repukes. Her dad is a repuke who has a picture of Bush on the wall of the rink he built for Michele.

Her boyfriend doesn't look athletic at all. He kind of looks like the Pillsbury dough boy.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 03:19 PM
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17. she also carried on an affair with her agent
who divorced his wife and married Kerrigan.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 03:28 PM
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24. I forgot about that, lol
She got in trouble a month or so ago when she was hosting a show on skating and made some errors in describing the new judging system. The skating boards were aflutter with fury about her lack of knowledge about the CoP since she skated under the 6.0 system. A guest on that show also made some oddly homophobic remarks (odd since he himself is gay) about American skater Johnny Weir, to the point where the producer of the show had to issue and apology. It was kind of a disaster for Kerrigan...she seemed really airheaded on that show and just 'out of it' or something.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 03:33 PM
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26. That sounds like the new movie coming out with Will Ferrell
and John Heder

:rofl:
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 03:48 PM
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29. Weir is being parodied in that
And he's quite proud of it. Here is a pic:



I think that is Heder on the left in his "peacock" movie costume and Weir is on the right in the actual "Swan" costume he skated in, which he named Camille.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 03:42 PM
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28. I can't help feeling some measure of compassion for this woman.
She did a bad thing, to be sure, but it's not like she started a criminal war leading to hundreds of thousands of lost lives and the destruction of great wealth.

She went along with a minor thuggish plot. It cost her a lot when she was found out.

For the record, I am a fat person, and I have done things of which I am not proud, but I have some strengths.

This woman will always be among the first to turn a triple axel. It required hard work and dedication to do that, and I take no pleasure in whatever difficulties she has experienced since she gave into bad judgement.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 04:00 PM
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30. Yes, let's make fun of the mentally ill, shall we?
I would say that "frustrated others can’t see the people she sees” would be a good indication of mental illness. As well as her behavior now and in the past.

I'm no fan of either Harding or Kerrigan but at one point, Tonya Harding was not a failure. She was a talented world class skater who did it without tons of money and support (and with asthma which is a hell of a feat). She was, if I recall correctly, the first woman to do some triple jump or other - hardly the definition of a failure.

What she did to Kerrigan was wrong but making fun of another person's misfortune is just as wrong.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 04:05 PM
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31. triple axel
It has three and a half rotations making it hardest jump women do. Kim Meissner broke Tonya's streak in 2005 becoming the first woman since Tonya to complete one in a competition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimmie_Meissner

Tonya was the second woman ever, and the first American, to land one in competition.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 04:13 PM
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33. Since you seem to know a lot about figure skating:
What's a Sow Cow?

I always figured that it was some sort of perfect meat-animal, but apparently it has nothing to do with the genetic manipulation of livestock for the benefit of us omnivores. I hear that term (sow cow) a lot during the winter olympics, but I've yet to eat any steak-bacon.

What's the deal?
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 04:17 PM
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34. It's a jump named after Ulrich Salchow
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulrich_Salchow

"In 1909, Ulrich Salchow first landed a jump in competition in which he took off on the back inside edge, and landed on the back outside edge of his other foot. This jump is now known as the salchow jump in his honor."



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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 04:18 PM
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36. I'm always amazed at people who can tell the difference
All those jumps look the same to me and it always blows my mind that anyone can do them. I'm lucky if I can stay upright skating a straight (relatively) line. :rofl:
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 04:19 PM
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37. Sooo....You're saying that I can't have any steak-bacon?
DAMMIT!
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 04:22 PM
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40. Have you ever read Oryx and Crake?
by Margaret Atwood? Might make you a little less eager to try some genetically engineered steakon. :rofl: (It's a really good book, seriously)
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Fran Kubelik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 04:21 PM
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39. Wow. I always wondered about that.
Do you skate?
I can barely make it skating in a straight line, forward. I am in awe of people who can skate backwards, let alone all the crazy spinning and jumping.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 04:24 PM
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41. I've only skated once
well, ice skates that is. I used to have in-line skates and that was fun, but I don't think it can be compared to ice skating. I have a friend who is a trick skater, she does the half pipe competitions, on in-line skates and she won't get on the ice either. I just spectate. :hi:
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Fran Kubelik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 04:11 PM
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32. I have to say that I am really impressed with the compassion here.
The majority of responses to this thread were not at all what I expected, and I am truly impressed. Thanks, DU, for your big hearts and open minds. :loveya:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 04:25 PM
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42. For the record, let me say that
I am feel more in tune with Harding than I ever did with Kerrigan.

That said, what was done to Kerrigan was a terrible, horrible act of evilness.

I don't care about trailers, who lives in trailers, and who doesn't live in trailers.

I saw the article on Salon and thought people might want to discuss it.
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Fran Kubelik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 04:31 PM
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44. I did not mean to imply judgment on your OP
I was just impressed at the turn the discussions took. It was unexpected and refreshing.
From reading your posts, I would not expect you to be someone who dismisses people because of size or economic status. :pals:
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 04:17 PM
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35. On the other hand, Tanya Harding did NOT host one of the WORST...
most excreable "Saturday Night Live" shows ever. The night Nancy Kerrigan hosted "SNL", I cringed watching it. She was beyond horrible.
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Fran Kubelik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 04:28 PM
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43. One of three worst hosts ever, in my opinion.
Also on my list:

#1 Dion Sanders, as host and musical guest
#2 Wayne Gretzky
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 04:34 PM
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45. HA!
Gretzky was the worst. His skit about "What he says" vs. "What he's really thinking" was funny as hell, though.

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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 05:42 PM
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48. She's the same age as I am but she looks 10 years older, even though I
have gray hair. Wow, you'd think someone who was an Olympic caliber athlete at one time would have aged a *little* better than that, but I guess drugs will do that.
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