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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 09:39 PM
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Do Vegans eat honey?
Or is that against their beliefs?
:shrug:
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 09:40 PM
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1. No. Not the ones I know.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 09:41 PM
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2. No
No animal products. And I do miss honey.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 09:42 PM
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5. But bees are insects?
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 09:43 PM
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Insects are animals. nt
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 09:43 PM
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6. Errr...insects are animals.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 09:44 PM
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8. So you guys don't kill cockroaches?
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 09:45 PM
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9. I'm not vegan, but some don't.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 09:47 PM
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10. No. There are humane ways to get them to leave an area without killing them
But then, I've never had cockroaches, so it's never been an issue. Maybe if I had them, I'd feel differently. So far, so good.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 09:51 PM
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12. Wait until you find 10 inch cockroaches on your face when you wake up.
Not fun.
:scared:
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 09:52 PM
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14. I suspect the cats would eat 'em before they got there
My cats aren't vegan. Thank God!

Did that happen to you?! :scared:
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 09:55 PM
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17. I don't think they will
I have cats and we occasionally get these woodroaches in our house and they just stare at them.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 09:57 PM
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18. Woodroaches are the worst! I used to get them, when I lived, well,
Edited on Sat Mar-03-07 09:57 PM by mycritters2
in the woods. And yes, I'd get them to crawl up on a piece of cardboard or newspaper and take 'em outside.

Not sure the cats could have eaten 'em, they were the size of Buicks!
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 09:58 PM
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19. Oh yes. In Baltimore. We really don't have roaches in Maine thankfully. n/t
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 09:54 PM
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16. How did that happen? And, where? n/t
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 09:58 PM
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20. see post 19. :)
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thefool_wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 12:48 PM
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28. Scientifically speaking yes
Arthropods are part of the Animal Kingdom.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 09:41 PM
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3. Honey isn't vegan.
It can't be harvested without killing bees.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 09:50 AM
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26. The modern Langstroth hive allows honey extraction without
destruction of the bees. The frames in which the honey is stored are removed from the hive supers; the honey extracted from the frames and the frames returned to the hives. The honey removed is excess to what the bees will require and depending the time of year the surplus will be recovered quickly. Now yes, a few bees (maybe a dozen out of a population of 30K to 40K) may be killed during the operation, but honey extraction is not a massacre.

BTW, harvesting fruits and vegetables can and does result in the destruction of insects, including bees.

Honey isn't vegan because it is produced by an animal, just like milk and eggs.
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 09:41 PM
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4. Nope. n/t
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 09:43 PM
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7. Hell yeah, I eat my honey!!!11!1!!




Oh. Wait... you, um... meant, like... "honey."



:yoiks:



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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 09:47 PM
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11. *rimshot*
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 09:52 PM
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13. Exactly!
:yoiks:

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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 10:01 PM
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23. Hee.




:7



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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 09:53 PM
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15. HI-OOOOOO!
:hi:
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 10:00 PM
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21. Hi Honey! :D








Oops. Said that out loud, didn't I...?



:yoiks:


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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 10:00 PM
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22. No, they don't
but they do seem to eat fruit and other plants pollinated by domesticated bees. :shrug:

I knew one vegan who wouldn't own anything with shellac on it, either.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 12:43 PM
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27. The shellac thing makes sense
Shellac being the secretion of the Lac beetle.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 12:14 AM
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24. Bee barf...yummy.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 01:34 AM
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25. Nope.
:)
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 01:08 PM
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29. Not a Pure Vegan
I know people who are somewhere between just vegetarian and pure vegan who eat honey but still are pure vegetarians...don't eat cheese or at least not cheese with rennet, etc., no gelatin products, ergo no Altoids...<g> No death of an animal but who will still use animal products... I am closest to pure vegan but have fallen on occasion when honey was involved. "On occasion" probably means less than once every five years and would NEVER include an indulgence that kills an animal.

...and I too don't kill insects. I escort them from my home in a net, including roaches. We simply have no right. See my sig.
Lee
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