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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 06:36 PM
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Anna Nicole Smith's MOTHER!
I would not give custody of a dog to Vergie, let alone a baby.

Anna Nicole Smith's mother is a liar and she is probably in cahoots with the "Texas OIL family". I know this isn't about politics. But it's about ALL THE THINGS the RW smear machine cranks out in this country.
It's ALL about SEX. It's ALL about DRUGS. When the real truth is. IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY!

Stay tuned for the poor Texas sheriff, Vergie, to move Daniel and Nicole's body to Texas, so she can CASH on the tourist industry that her poor dead daughter and grandson will provide.

You know. I was thinking about how we work our fingers to the bone around her trying to save the world from conservatives... We should have recruited Anna Nicole Smith. She could have helped us with the "rich white conservative hypocrite" problem.

Who's the guy in S. Carolina?
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 06:37 PM
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1. I find them all repulsive, including Howard K. Stern
Edited on Wed Feb-21-07 06:37 PM by WI_DEM
but I do feel that Anna Nicole should be buried by her son. The one thing that does ring true about Anna Nicole is that she did love her son and that they both had a very strong relationship with one another.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 06:42 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. Anna Nicole Smith DID NOT want to ber buried in East Texas.
I'm sure she would rather have her body rot in the mortuary, than have "snake handlers" cash in on her corpse.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 06:54 PM
Response to Reply #3
8. umm, where did I say she did? isn't her son buried in the Bahamas?
did you read my post?
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 06:56 PM
Response to Reply #8
11. Yes BUT Vergie. (the Texas sherriff) wants to have it moved..
to TEXAS!x(
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:00 PM
Response to Reply #11
19. lol. She isn't the "Texas Sheriff"
She is/was a Deputy which means about squat.
There is no power there.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:20 PM
Response to Reply #19
46. She still puts people in cages for a living.
A Lynne England type of person.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:21 PM
Response to Reply #46
49. Oh for God's sake
:eyes:
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:24 PM
Response to Reply #49
52. poo poo
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:36 PM
Response to Reply #1
66. I heard a rumer that the baby is Daniel's...
As fucked up as Anna was for a really long time, I don't know what to believe anymore.
Duckie
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:47 PM
Response to Reply #66
106. I REALLY don't think so
I didn't admire anything that the woman did (per say) but I feel bad for her state and I do not think she was having relations with her son.

The media built her up and now they are tearing her down.

That body needs to be planted next to the son and that mother of hers is a fat assed monster JMO
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:11 PM
Response to Reply #1
113. Howard Stern was the only person there for her every day for the last several years.
True, they were all doing drugs with impunity - but having been there myself - I'm not in a position to condemn anyone for overdoing them...
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 06:39 PM
Response to Original message
2. They are all SCREWN!!1111! I'm series!1!

nt

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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 06:44 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. Are you insinuating something?
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 06:50 PM
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5. Interesting. I may have to open up a king-sized bag of CheezDoodles and ponder this...
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 06:51 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. Oh. Your so above it all. Crunch away.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:10 PM
Response to Reply #5
34. LOL! See my post 16. Tomorrow, Cheez Doodles! nt
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 02:46 PM
Response to Reply #5
92. MOM
Get me some cheesypoofs, Anna Nicole is on the tv

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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:24 PM
Response to Reply #92
118. That's Wesley Clark's favorite snack I think...
n/t
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 06:53 PM
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7. I'm not in a position to say but
Edited on Wed Feb-21-07 06:53 PM by Horse with no Name
Howard Stern seems to have manipulated ANS, provided drugs for her and may have psychologically abused her..and one of the cardinal signs of someone who does these things is to isolate their victim. Cut them off from their family and friends, making themselves the center of that person's world. He certainly was obsessed with/by her.
ANS was in a downhill spiral caused by the drugs. I believe that if Stern loved her...he would have protected her and not given her drugs or let her do that awful reality show. I am positive that ANS didn't realize people were laughing AT her...and not just with her.
You just don't do that to people you care about.
Her mother may be odd to most of you...but I live in this area. She isn't any more unusual than most. I *GUARANTEE* she doesn't have ties with Bushco and doubt that she is even political. More than likely, she just does what her husband tells her to do in those matters like a lot of woman that age in this area do. I believe she was cut off from her daughter and grandchildren.
She did say today that she and Daniel's father are going to exhume him and take him back to Texas.
They have that right with ANS gone.
So then does that mean that since ANS's wishes were to be buried next to her son that she should go back to Texas?
The law says that she is her legal next-of-kin.
Generally that means that she should be able.
As far as the baby, *I* truly hope that Burkitt is the father and gets custody of her.
Not sure that being in the custody of Vergie is the best thing for her.
If it were Solomon deciding the case...each party should get what meant the most to them from ANS.
Vergie should get her body.
Burkitt should get the baby.
Stern should get the money.

This appears to be what everyone is fighting for. Why not just do it?
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 06:59 PM
Response to Reply #7
17. I thought that I read today
that Stern said he didn't want any of the money and is even forgoing payment as the executor of the will?

I haven't really kept up with this at all, maybe you know Horse?

BTW, I think if Anna should be next to her son, if that's Texas then so be it.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:01 PM
Response to Reply #17
21. I didn't see that
But yes...she should be next to her son. She loved him. I don't doubt that.
He is in an unmarked grave in the Bahamas without any family anywhere around to visit...so going back to Texas where he does have family seems to be the kind thing to do.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:05 PM
Response to Reply #21
29. Okay, here's where I read that on MSNBC.com
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17257459/

"He also said he isn’t looking for any money from her estate and would waive his fee as the executor of her will. “I do not intend to get one penny,” Stern said."

It's towards the end of the article.

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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:10 PM
Response to Reply #29
35. Thanks.
I don't believe him but he sure said it.
You live in this area tammy...do you see a huge difference between Vergie and some of the other women in these parts?
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:16 PM
Response to Reply #35
41. I'm in the DFW area
But I know exactly what you're getting at about the women out in East Texas, they are sumpthin' else.

I haven't actually watched any of this coverage, but I think I may have to catch some of this train wreck for entertainment purposes later tonight.

I don't really believe Stern much either.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:42 PM
Response to Reply #29
104. grand words
for a guy seeking custody of the baby who inherits it all, eh?

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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 02:48 PM
Response to Reply #17
93. Yeah, the money for executor
is a pittance next to the trust he would get if he is the father of the baby.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:01 PM
Response to Reply #7
23. If the Marshall family is smart, they will step up and offer whoever
Edited on Wed Feb-21-07 07:02 PM by SoCalDem
ends up being the baby's father a settlement for the baby ..

There's supposedly 100M at stake, so why not offer a $20M settlement with 1/3 in monthly installments until she's 18.. 1/3 when she graduates from college...and the other 1/3 at age 35?

She could live nicely on the interest alone, and by making it a monthly installment, she could live well, and yet her "guardian" would have no real ability to "take her money" and run.

It would save a TON in legal fees, and would put this whole saga to bed..

Stern was little more than a hanger-on..a gigolo, who traded his "legal advice" in exchange for not having to actually do any real work.

I don't really fault her mother all that much, because we don;t really know all the family dynamics, and having raised a "wild-child" of my own, I know how frustrating it can be.

ANS was obviously a drug addict..legal or otherwise, so her judgement was permanently fogged in.. If she had given up drugs, and decided to live a 'real life", she would probably regained contact with her family, but in HER world, they did not exist.. the lAST thing an addict wants, is interference. They SEEK OUT enablers..

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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:03 PM
Response to Reply #23
24. Very well said.
:thumbsup:
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:23 PM
Response to Reply #23
51. Marshall family should PAY the orginal claim. HALF! That's half a bil.
Sorry charley. I want it ALL from the Texas oil bastards!
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:18 PM
Response to Reply #7
42. You don't think it's ODD that Vergie thought Howard the billionare
was a good husband? He was 80 years old for God's sake. Was she pimping her own daughter? I think that's a possibilty and the court has to take that kind of sickness in to consideration.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:21 PM
Response to Reply #42
48. She wasn't pimping her daughter
Her daughter made the decision herself and from all accounts, they were both very happy. What's wrong with that?
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:55 PM
Response to Reply #48
109. Basically they used each other
Anna used him for the money and he used her because having some cute blonde booty made him happy in his last years. So, she was happy and he was happy with the situation... good for them I say.

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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:22 PM
Response to Reply #42
50. .
Edited on Wed Feb-21-07 07:23 PM by tammywammy
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 06:54 PM
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9. Should Anna and Danny's body be given to Vergie. YES OR NO?
And just answer the fucking question.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 06:56 PM
Response to Reply #9
10. You appear to be harassing yourself
with this post.

:shrug:

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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 06:57 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. explain this stupid comment?
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:00 PM
Response to Reply #13
20. I think it's funny, not stupid
Your post #9 "Should Anna and Danny's body be given to Vergie. YES OR NO?

And just answer the fucking question."

is a reply to the OP, which is also you. So yes, you're harrassing yourself.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 06:57 PM
Response to Reply #9
14. Danny's biological father is stepping forward
and he DOES have the legal right since he is the only surviving parent.:shrug:
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:00 PM
Response to Reply #14
18. We don't know that..
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:01 PM
Response to Reply #18
22. "We" don't know what?
That's the man is Danny's father or that he has the right to move the body? I don't think there's ever been a dispute on who Danny's father was, and since the mother is dead, he does have the right to move the body.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:11 PM
Response to Reply #22
36. That's he's the biological father.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:12 PM
Response to Reply #36
38. There has never been a doubt about Danny's biological father
None whatsoever.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:33 PM
Response to Reply #38
59. What?
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:13 PM
Response to Reply #36
39. I don't think there's ever been a question of
who Danny's father is. Is there a link or news story that questions who's Danny's father?
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:34 PM
Response to Reply #39
63. there's TWO danny's. Danny and Dannilynn....
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:35 PM
Response to Reply #63
65. No. There is one "Danny" and one "Dannilyn"
We were speaking of "Danny".
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:38 PM
Response to Reply #65
71. And this whole subthread
Edited on Wed Feb-21-07 07:39 PM by tammywammy
Started really with a post about "Danny's biological father stepping forward" and where the body should be buried, so it's really hard to see how someone could think we were talking and an alive infant daughter.

I think someone needs a refresher in reading comprehension
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:40 PM
Response to Reply #71
73. or Librium. n/t
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:43 PM
Response to Reply #73
76. ...
:spank:

:)
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:37 PM
Response to Reply #63
68. Yeah, and I've been saying
Danny this whole time, in reference to her son, since he's the only child that's dead and buried in the Bahamas
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:31 PM
Response to Reply #14
58. Question...
Does he also have a right to all the money since it was stated in the will that it would all go to the son and excluded all other children? Just asking.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:34 PM
Response to Reply #58
62. It very well could. n/t
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:35 PM
Response to Reply #58
64. I don't think so
From what I know (and this isn't expert advice by any means), it's very difficult to exclude children from a will. So on that point, her will would be contested on behalf of the infant daughter. I would think that the daughter being her only heir left, would receive the money (if and when that ever happens). I don't think that there's really a scenario where Danny's father would get the money at this point, since no money ever changed hands anyways.

But take this with a grain of salt, and if anyone knows better than me, please feel free to correct me. :)
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:37 PM
Response to Reply #64
69. That's why the judge
For all of his idiocy and theatrics...he certainly did one RIGHT thing...by appointing Dannilyn a Guardian ad litum to safeguard her interests in ALL of these matters since it is so obvious that they might be overlooked by the "adults"
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:36 PM
Response to Reply #58
67. DUH! What do you think everybody's fighting about?
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:42 PM
Response to Reply #58
105. No, Danny predeceased her
An estate can't be left to a dead person, so Daniel's next of kin isn't eligable to the estate.

It's just another extreme oddity about the so-called Will. There's no provision whatsoever addressing who gets the estate should the beneficiary die first. Every Will I've ever worked on has a line of people who inherit if the person listed before them is dead when the Will goes to probate. It's absurd that there was no contingency to address the fact that Daniel may die first.

The Will is such a crock. It looks like it was written by a junior high school kid.

In any case, it was thrown out since nobody can seem to locate the original. Why the original wasn't locked up in the office of the attorney who drew it up is a big red flag. Everything about it suspicious. Interesting that one of the witnesses who signed it was an old partner of Howard's who was suspended by the Bar Association at the time and later lost his license to practice. Yet another thing to make ya go hmmmm...

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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:05 PM
Response to Reply #9
28. what's with the hostility?
Edited on Wed Feb-21-07 07:11 PM by SemperEadem
If the boy's father is still alive, then he should be able to bury his son's body where he sees fit. If Anna has no other next of kin but her mother, then really---what difference does it make to Anna now? She's gone on to better things now. If Burkett is biologically the baby's father, then he should raise her and any money the baby inherits should be placed in an airtight trust til she's 25 and he be financially responsible just like any other father for his child. If she and Stern weren't legally married, then Stern is SOL. He's a lawyer, he should have made sure he had that loose end tied up.

I havent' been caught up in this because it's a freakin' circus and the bush administration is trying a Nixonian tactic of threatening to use the Espionage Act against journalists who print leaked information, even though the wording of the act is not specific to journalists; it was worded to cover spying against this country with classified infomation, but because it's phrased to ambiguously, Gonzales wants to use it against journalists.
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #28
107. That's why Stern went to the Bahamas
Their paternity laws are so archiac they go by the name on the birth certificate. However, there's the problem of their being unmarried and not citizens. Exactly why they unethically got on the fast track for permanent residency status. The Immigration Minister, Gibson, was forced to step down for that sham.

I think the Bahamas is going to turn over the paternity issue to the U.S. I'm pretty sure they can't wait to boot Howard and baby out of their country. This issue has gotten them far too much bad press, and for a country that relies so heavily on U.S. tourism for their economy, that's a big issue for them.

Howard and the baby are U.S. citizens who at this point only have visitor status, and Howard is about to be evicted. What does the Bahamas want to keep them for now when they have no use for them and the issue of them hiding out there is causing them all this misery?


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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #9
108. No IMO
And that is just my opinion

For the record Stern and the other guy are not prizes either.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 06:56 PM
Response to Original message
12. I haven't been following any of this, zzzzzzzzz,
but why do you say those kinds of things about the mother? From what I've heard Howard Stern is a much more nefarious character. But as I said I basically know squat about this crazy situation.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 06:58 PM
Response to Reply #12
15. ZZZZZZZ. It's the only thing on tee vee?
Are you in the Artic?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:03 PM
Response to Reply #15
25. My TV has an off button.
Also, different channels.

Seriously, who watches this Anna Nicole crap? Haven't people got lives of their own?
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 07:14 AM
Response to Reply #25
90. MSNBC seems to be about the worst.
They are moving toward an All Anna Nicole, All the Time format, repeatedly pre-empting their news programs for this endless crap. (Who wants to hear about Iraq anyway?)

Apparently, America is riveted by the battle for the illegitimate baby of a dead stripper. What does this say about our citizens? Or our media?

This is sick.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:04 PM
Response to Reply #15
26. I've been home all day sick and my TV hasn't been turned on.
We can do things besides watch television, especially when this crapola is on.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:11 PM
Response to Reply #15
37. No. I babysat my grandbabies all day and was either at the park
or watching cartoons. I do admit to having experienced ANS overload and burnout however.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:04 PM
Response to Reply #12
27. Because some of us, I'm embarrassed to say, spent the morning with Mother.
I think you can look at the number and seriousness of my posts here not to dismiss me as someone who reads tabloids or watches tabloid TV all the time, but I was watching MSNBC when the hearing started, and kept watching -- with, sad to say, no zzzzzzzzz at all.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:08 PM
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30. Well, since I haven't been watching, been babysitting grandkids all day instead,
I simply don't know what all this is about. I certainly don't dismiss you or anybody else and I am curious.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:15 PM
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40. I didn't mean to say you would -- I was defending myself to myself!
Watching, if nothing else, is a fascinating study in all kinds of characters.

Bless you for babysitting -- give those grandkids a hug for DM Mom! (But I wouldn't let them watch the hearing. It's PG-rated, if not R.)
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:25 PM
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53. Thanks DMM! I'll be happy to give them a hug for you!
And here's one back :hug:

I am curious about these things. I sense there might even be a true crime story somewhere in this tragedy. And I have to confess that I love reading and watching true crime stories.
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:06 PM
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112. I'm with you
I'm seeing an icky crime drama coming out of this.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:56 PM
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110. I have your back deepmodem
I am not typically into this crap either, but this case has been both fascinating and annoying.

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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:01 PM
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111. It's actually been pretty riveting
Quite the entertainment circus. If the judge wasn't such a hoot I probably would have found the whole exercise dull. Turned out to be some good theatre.

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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 06:59 PM
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16. Thank goodness, I'm not the only one watching this! I don't feel so guilty.
Totally agree -- that mother is bad! She was all jolly, carrying on with the judge. But when the time came for cross, and the mildest of unfriendly questions, she gets so broken up she can't go on, and has to retreat to the loo. I can see right through her, and imagine myself in that home, and the mother Anna grew up with.

And she didn't know the sister-in-law was hand-in-glove with the tabloid reporter, and today had a helicopter circling as she went to view her daughter's body??? Please!

And bury her in Texas? Say what you will about Anna, but that girl got out of there.

As an aside, I'm very impressed with the attorney appointed to represent the baby. He, and the whole idea of what he is doing, brings tears to my eyes. Poor little one.

:cry:
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:09 PM
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31. It's mesmerizing
and makes me feel all warm and fuzzy that my family isn't THAT dysfunctional.:)
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:19 PM
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44. LOL! Same here: not "that" dysfunctional! nt
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:09 PM
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32. Something I heard last night disturbed me about the mother
Supposedly ANS lashed out about her childhood saying something about being raped. If ANS was raped/molested by any of the mother's boyfriends this could explain why ANS had such a troubled relationship with her mother, as well as her difficulty in life.

If--if--Anna's mother's boyfriends had sexually abused Anna, then I believe there is no way that the baby girl should go to Anna's mother.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:21 PM
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47. She, I believe, said she was "beaten," and then added "raped." nt
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:26 PM
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55. ANS had three stepfathers. The Texas "sheriff" needs to be more CLEAR.
About WHY her daughter HATED HER!
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:38 PM
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70. her mother-after watching i don't believe a word she says, she's "Friends" with
some ahole from "splash" news which is probably 2 rungs lower than Fox news and she claims she has made no money off either death-me thinks she's lying.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:10 PM
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33. God bless you Deepmodem Mom.. You're very honest...
More honest than some who are pretending they are not watching this hearing. I hope DU lawyers way in. I'm not a lawyer but I'm already smelling collusion between the "Vergie camp" and the "Howard dead Texas OIL" camp.

And I have to admit. I'm beginning to feel sorry for Howard. It's impossible to control a drug addict, who has all the money and all the power. Although I still think she died of a broken heart.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:34 PM
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61. You don't know how glad I was to see your post!
I was slinking around, guiltily watching, and assuming no one here was watching, even though I know a lot of news-junkie DUers have their set tuned to MSNBC. The hearing is a fascinating study in character, and a highly unusual judicial process! And I did see a bit of political, or at least social, relevance. I mean, the very idea of taking that girl back to Texas (although, I should say for sure, there are thousands of good people in Texas, who fight the good fight).

Did you hear Vergie keep saying, "She was a TEXAS girl." And, revealingly, saying on the stand that she knew of no one who hadn't been buried in the state of their birth. Anna had her demons, but she, like many of us, including myself, escaped the state of her birth.

(My dear late mother, who was nothing like Vergie, did, however, tell someone once that I left the state of my birth because I "thought I was too good for it." Some of the testimony resonated just a bit with me.)
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:25 PM
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54. i've watched it on and off all day-my excuse-Court TV has Libby on verdict watch.
and i'm pissed because i missed Birkhead but i heard his attorney go mental on Stern "Are you the biological father!!!!???"
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 08:18 PM
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78. Birkhead charmed the pants off the Judge. He is a cute guy...
and that harpie of a lawyer of his had him really well-prepared. In a nutshell, he made the case that he and Anna were a couple for almost two years, including the time of the baby's conception, with Howard left out -- except as lawyer, adviser, friend, manager, etc. The Judge asked him where he thinks Anna should be buried, and he had said that she went to the Bahamas only because of their paternity law, i.e., she could simply name a father. He considered California her home (and echoed Howard's testimony that she sometimes wanted to be buried close to Marilyn Monroe), and said that if he is able to raise the baby, he would raise her in California. He said it was difficult, though, because Daniel is buried in the Bahamas, and she would want to be with him.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 08:20 PM
Response to Reply #78
79. Thanks for the info.
:hi:
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:12 PM
Response to Reply #54
114. They're all mental
But that's what makes it riveting. You can't even make this stuff up.

;)

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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:40 PM
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74. The thing that got me was the questioning about whether she has
already or will making any cash on the video from the Bahamas grave site.

Suddenly she's all confused and tearful and telling the lawyers to talk nicer to her.

And that stupid fool of a judge can't (or refuses) to see through it and make her answer the goddam question.

Oh boo-fricken-hoo lady.

You either know whether you sold your story/videotape/photographs to the tabloids or you don't.

She's a total liar and she's playing games.

It's sickening.

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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 08:20 PM
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80. Oh, she made turnaround all right! Suddenly, she was "upset"...
and could hardly hear or think, after yukking it up with the Judge for a good long time.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 02:26 AM
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84. I've been watching this case also...
Vergie's out for money, and also the half-sister..interesting that Anna's father said Anna had only seen her 1/2 sister once..They should head back to Texas fast because the mother wants $$$$...interesting that she LIKED Anna's elderly late husband, the billionaire..that family is out for one thing only...and interesting how the mother hooked right up w/ that Larry...
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:18 PM
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43. The real story here is how in the eff this alleged judge is allowed
to practice law on this planet.

He has been a complete and utter joke. I can't believe what I've been watching.

It is so clear he is auditioning for a television reality show (which is rumored he's been doing) or that he's planning on writing a book.

He's referring to lawyers by nicknames, and calling people by their last names.

He's allowing lawyers to chew out and argue with each other, when standard protocol dictates you speak to the court concerning issues of that matter.

He can't make up his mind who should testify, and then he abruptly cuts them off when he realizes he shouldn't have let them get into certain matters.

He's has to go into long explanations about EVERYTHING. TALK, TALK, TALK

He's brushing off objections by lawyers, without routinely saying "sustained" or "overruled." And then we have to hear little antic totes about his personal life.

He's puting the fricken medical examiner on speaker phone (as a national audience listens) to discuss the deteriorating condition of Anna's body.

He's offering commentary on how well people testify as though he's Simon judging an American Idol performance.

He can't make up his mind what is admissible.

It's is beyond belief. He is totally grandstanding in an attempt to become famous.

And I thought Judge Ito from the Simpson trial was incompetent. :eyes:

I've been watching this because I'm interested in law and wanted to learn more about probate matters.

This just a joke.

And you can bet whichever way this idiot rules will be appealed one half second after he discloses it.

Consider yourself lucky if you've not watched any of this because it is laughable. LAUGHABLE.

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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:20 PM
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45. Olberman played a clip of this joker the other night and I really thought it was a joke.
I was waiting for him to laugh, and give the tip-off that it was a joke.

I was pretty shocked when it finally soaked in that this was the real judge...

"We have her on ice, she's not going anywhere." /me pukes...
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:27 PM
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56. The judge is an asshole. He's probably a JEB appointee.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:34 PM
Response to Reply #45
60. This is from TMZ.com which is reporting he has made
demo tapes in an attempt to have his own TV show.

:puke: :puke: :puke:

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RiffRandell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:58 PM
Response to Reply #43
77. Great post.
I am DISGUSTED by what I have watched today. Unbelievable. I totally agree with you.
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:16 PM
Response to Reply #43
116. Family court is like that
It's far more relaxed. Believe it or not I've seen worse. What the hell, nobody took a swing at anyone else, and I've seen that in family court more than once.

The judge is goofy but he knows the law and in hindsight he's crazy like a fox.



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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:31 PM
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57. I got to go to bed.. BUT anybody feel free the take over this thread.
This IS important as go the way of the culture wars. VERGIE (republican)
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:39 PM
Response to Reply #57
72. Pure bullshit. Nobody should have their rights negated because they are a Republican
That is sheer lunacy.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:40 PM
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75. And how do you know she's a republican?
Did she announce it on air, "Hey everyone I'm a republican." And regardless, political stance doesn't negate their rights.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 06:15 PM
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94. Pure instinct.
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 08:24 PM
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81. They could mummify her body
and encase it in glass.

Add a few roller coasters, some snack shops, etc, and VIOLA!!! ----

ANNALAND!!!


I'm getting ready to buy stock...
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #81
82. Hey, it worked for Eva Peron. Juan kept her in a glass coffin.
Why not? :evilgrin: Truth is stranger than fiction.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 02:20 AM
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83. BTW, isn't the judge on this case....
Judge Judy's husband?
I've been reading and hearing various comments that he's been trying to get his own tv show for awhile, and there's been a few comments made during the hearings that might be referring to his mannerism? Does anyone know..
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 07:19 PM
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95. No, he is not Judge Judy's husband.
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GreenZoneLT Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 03:16 AM
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85. Kill your TV
Seriously, you're spending an awful lot of energy worrying about something that doesn't matter at all to anybody but that poor drunk girl's relatives.

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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 04:56 AM
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86. Stern is the one
that I wouldn't give custody of anything too. I think Stern is responsible for keeping Anna Nicole drugged and should be charged with manslaughter at the very least.
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Buttercup McToots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 05:57 AM
Response to Reply #86
87. Me too
I'm watching this...fasicnating stuff...
Grandma...I shudder to think of the baby with her...money money
Howard...money money money...
Larry...I like him...at least he seems stable and can support himself...
I think he cares about the baby...
I'll tell you one thing...they better get that baby away from Howard...
And why can't they just do a paternity test today and solve the problem
of who is the baby's father?



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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:20 PM
Response to Reply #87
117. Howard won't let them
He's clinging on to that cash cow baby as tight as he can. Meanwhile while he claims he loves her as a father since the day Anna died the baby has been living at the Gibson's and cared for by Gibson's mother.

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michaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 07:12 AM
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88. Agree 100%
To know that this woman used those drugs while pregnant is sick. He aided in this and to me it is the most obvious case of child abuse! That baby should be taken from him immediately and I cannot believe that this has not been discussed and done.
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 07:13 AM
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89. Last Friday night her mother was interviewed on 20/20. Right
after her daughter died she was trashing her on national TV - making a big deal about Anna never helping her family out financially.

That's really all that needs to be said about this woman. Any mother who can publicly trash her daughter right after she dies does not deserve to have any decision-making ability about where that daughter is buried.

Seems like Anna was surrounded by users, no wonder she loved her son so much he was probably the only person she could trust that loved her for herself.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 02:43 PM
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91. I think I'm going to be sick.....I don't know what's worse....
listening to the sad probate details OR

having to listen to that horrible tabloid journalist for MSNBC.

She's driving me more F'ing crazy than the dipshit judge who's posturing to become a star.

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meldroc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 07:37 PM
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96. And I should give a flying fuck about this for what reason?
She's DEAD! GET OVER IT!

I'm tired of seeing this circus dominating the news, when stories about Iraq casualties, Jose Padilla being judged unfit to stand trial because of abuse at the hands of the government, the Libby trial, the appeals court ruling on habeas corpus for Gitmo detainees, etc. All of that, and we're stuck hearing about an overdosed has-been Playboy Bunny and a pop star who shaved her head and is bouncing in and out of rehab!

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demrabble Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 07:38 PM
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97. Who Is Anna Nicole Smith?
Who is this Anna Nicole Smith?

And who is her mother?

What I am missing here?
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 07:57 PM
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98. The lady OJ killed
:P
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demrabble Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:05 PM
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99. OJ?
Would that be Orange Julius?

I can never find Orange Julius stands anymore.

Is it because Orange Julius went to jail for killing Anna Nicole Smith?
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:06 PM
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100. Orange Julius shaved his head and entered Rehab
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demrabble Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:15 PM
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101. At The Paris Hilton?
I keep hearing about the Paris Hilton in reference to rehab.

Is that the Hilton Hotel in Paris, France?

Odd place for rehab, if you ask me.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:25 PM
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102. Just some random person who should have had a better life
Never mind. Go back to sleep.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:31 PM
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103. Momma traveled w/ a "friend" from Splash magazine to view
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 08:33 PM by npincus
her daughter at the morgue, and well... golly gee... wouldn't you know, a helicopter with a Splash videographer followed them, though information about the visit had not been released to the public...

what a piece of crap for a mother.

The same "friend" from Splash traveled w/ Momma to her grandon's grave in the Bahamas... and his videotaped it for Spalsh, for $$$$. Oh, Lord....
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:13 PM
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115. I care just enough to post this.
And really, only because this thread happens to be resting on my favorite POLITICAL board.
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