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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 03:49 PM
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Has anyone been here or even know where this plaque is posted?
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 03:55 PM
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1. That was just a few months after my daughter was born (10/9/1968). Cape Canaveral, Florida?
Or was it then Cape Kennedy, Florida? Or Texas? Those are just guesses.

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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 03:58 PM
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2. No Guess again
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 04:06 PM
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3. Lots of history, but no mention of landing site:
Edited on Mon Feb-19-07 04:11 PM by Radio_Lady
The first men ever to see the moon at close range, Frank Borman, James A. Lovell, Jr., and William A. Anders, left Launch Complex 39A at Kennedy Space Center early in the morning of December 21, 1968, aboard Apollo command module 103. Four days later they fired their main propulsion engine and the spacecraft became a captive of the moon's gravity, in an elliptical orbit which they later changed to a near-circular orbit 60 nautical miles (111 kilometers) above the surface. For the next 20 hours they took photographs, relayed their visual observations and descriptions of the topography back to Mission Control, and gave viewers on Earth spectacular television views of the moon and of their home planet. On Christmas day in the early morning, at the end of the 10th trip around the moon, they fired the service module engine once more to return to Earth. The success of this maneuver prompted Lovell to notify Houston, "Please be informed there is a Santa Claus."

I remember December 21, 1968 quite well -- my ex-husband and I celebrated our 5th wedding anniversary that day, and we had a two-month old daughter. We were living in New York City and quite plugged in to space coverage on the TV networks (my ex worked for ABC; I had worked for NBC). A few months later, in March, 1969, we moved to Miami, Florida, where my son was born on December 10, 1969. My kids were born in and around the dates of those historic flights.

You got me stumped!



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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 04:08 PM
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5. Ok Hint they landed in the south Pacific Ocean as all returning Moon shoots did
Edited on Mon Feb-19-07 04:42 PM by sce56
But read the plaque again as to where they set foot!
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 04:12 PM
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8. That's right! They did landings in the ocean! I forgot about that!
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Fran Kubelik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 04:08 PM
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4. Is it Hawaii?
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 04:08 PM
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6. Yes but where?
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Fran Kubelik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 04:12 PM
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7. Pearl Harbor!
What do I win? :bounce:
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 04:43 PM
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11. You got Hawaii right but Pearl Wrong!
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Fran Kubelik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 04:59 PM
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14. Oh well.
I had read that the recovery ship was based in Pearl Harbor.

Still fun!
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 04:22 PM
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9. sce56, you need to anoint Fran as the winner... if she is! Thanks!
If the plaque is on Oahu, let us know where it is! We're going to Maui and Oahu next month and it would be fun to see it!

Thanks for this thread!

In peace,

Radio_Lady in Oregon
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 04:37 PM
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10. Here's the information about plaque ceremony at Hickam Air Force Base, Hawaii.
Edited on Mon Feb-19-07 04:39 PM by Radio_Lady
27 December 1968: The first men to circle the moon Apollo 8 astronauts, Air Force Colonel Frank Borman, Navy Captain James A. Lovell Jr., and Air Force Major William A. Anders, splashed down at 10:51 a.m., approximately 1,000 miles southwest of Hawaii, thus concluding its historic lunar orbit mission. The crew arrived at Hickam AFB on 28 December 1968, en route to the Manned Spacecraft Center in Houston, Texas. They received a large and festive welcome (including leis, grass-skirted hula girls, and many high-ranking civilian and military officials among the some 10,000 persons on hand to greet them) as they set foot on American soil for the first time since their liftoff from Florida.

28 May 1969: Colonel Frank Borman, Apollo 8 Command Pilot, returned to Hickam for a ceremony dedicating a plaque located where he and his crew first stepped onto American soil following their historic moon-circling flight in December 1968.

From: Bullet Background Paper at: http://www.pacaf.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-06112...



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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 04:47 PM
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12. Right on and it is a hard place to get to since it is on the flight line I had to
do a lot of talking to a First Lieutenant to get permission to take my sister out to the site to get these pictures back in 2001.

Second Picture is from the site of the Plaque

Thanks for playing
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 04:52 PM
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13. Wow! That little building looks like "art deco" work -- with the glass cubes, it reminds me of
Edited on Mon Feb-19-07 04:56 PM by Radio_Lady
many buildings we had in Florida when I was growing up. Palm trees alone just bring back memories!

Maybe it was like a building at Homestead AFB? Or Miami Airport in the past?

Thanks for the memories!

Here's Radio Lady Ellen with Mom and Dad in Florida in the 1940s! Dontcha just love that painted palm tree?

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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 05:04 PM
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16. Yep the base is a great collection of Art Deco 30's style
I wish I had more of the pictures I took there but my ex would not let me make copies of them after she locked me out.
Here is Pearl Harbor under the Constellation it was on it's way back to San Diego 8 Sept 2001.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 08:05 PM
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19. Well, the Miami International Airport was NOT "art deco" -- pretty plain and unassuming, 'though!
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 08:11 PM
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20. OT: I hate it when ex-spouses keep things and won't share them.
Edited on Mon Feb-19-07 08:18 PM by Radio_Lady
My ex-husband died of lung cancer on Dec. 1, 2006 at age 70. Our daughter brought back photos of me and my Cocker Spaniel puppy from the 1960s -- photo books which I thought had been lost.

He had them all the time and never thought to send them to me. What a pain in the "arse" divorce can be! I've been through two of them, and am on my third (and last!) husband of 34 years.

You should have access to whatever you have on your ex-wife's computer. The least she could do would be to allow you to copy the photos, or supply you with them on disk.

What follows the end of love is really disgusting -- it's anger, revenge, and thoughtlessness. I also had to endure reading the obituary which my children's stepmother wrote. It's really priceless:

"(Ex-husband) had two successful children, but his eight-year marriage to (me) was not successful."

Isn't that special? How the crap could she know what kind of marriage we had? We loved each other for almost eleven years!

Then she went on to describe the "pinnacle of joy" he apparently experienced when he re-married HER!!!

Well, I'm sincerely trying to feel sorry for her now that she's a widow. I'm sure her life won't be easy.





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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 05:02 PM
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15. And there's another plaque dedicated to the Challenger astronauts in Hawaii -
do you know where?

(or Columbia - I can never remember - the one that blew up with the teacher in the 80s)
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 05:17 PM
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17. Humm I think that is behind the O club on the water front entry to Pearl!
Edited on Mon Feb-19-07 05:24 PM by sce56
Like I said I used to have lots of picture from there maybe one day I might get them back.
I also had a photo of the grave of Ellison Onizuka who died aboard the Challenger space shuttle in 1986 he is laid to rest at the National Cemetery of the Pacific located in Punchbowl.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 05:35 PM
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18. There might be one there - I don't know how many plaques there are
But on the Big Island, in the area of Rainbow Falls and the zoo, is a little park area dedicated to the Challenger crew, including a large stone with a plaque. It's not very big, but it's a nice spot.
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