Trump calls Rosie O'Donnell a "DEGENERATE", threatens to woo away her partner with men

[Bluebear]

Enough is enough, "The" Donald. I never realized how shallow and easily threatened he is.

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O’Donnell felt the sting of the money man’s rebuttal, which included a threat of using men to woo away Kelli Carpenter, O’Donnell’s partner, according to People magazine.

....(Trump) hissed, "Rosie's a slob. ... She's also not a very bright person.

"If you talk to Rosie for a little while, she's crude, she's tough, she's arrogant, she's pushy, she's disgusting. In certain ways she's a degenerate."

Trump has made his feelings about O'Donnell known in interviews in recent weeks, but he told "The Insider" host Pat O'Brien that he's now really out to get his new rival after receiving letters of support.

He added, "I'm surprised that so many people hate Rosie O'Donnell. They hate her. I've had so many letters from women saying, 'It's about time that somebody attacked that woman.'"

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=7&entry_id=12285

[burythehatchet]

1. as opposed to the undying love the masses have for you Don

these self promoters are really boring.

[Missy Vixen]

2. The Donald insisted on calling Rosie O'Donnell a "degenerate"

again last night on David Letterman's show.

Maybe the Donald should try marrying a woman older than his children.

Julie

[Lex]

26. That's his code word for something nastier he wishes to say about

her being a lesbian, or it seemed that way to me.

[rebel with a cause]

47. A tie in , like for example

Ellen DeGeneres. I caught that the first time I read it.

[Beausoir]

43. Snerk! OR...maybe he should try marrying a woman older than his hairpiece?

The "man" is a joke.

His latest wife is the most viciously mean looking woman I have ever seen, and I can't blame her for looking so bile-filled. If I had to sleep with an orangutan in order to pay my bills, I'd be plenty pissed-off, too.
How sad...for The Donald....to become such an object of ridicule.

You just KNOW he suffers from short penis syndrome.

[Bluebear]

57. ' try marrying a woman older than his hairpiece'

:spray:

[madeline_con]

85. And, do his lips hurt?

He seems to be trying to kep them off his teeth when he talks. What is UP with that? :shrug:

[Deja Q]

3. Says of Trump, who is harboring and promoting someone equally shallow and degenerate! (Tara...)

Trump, go fling that squirrel or whatever that thing on your head is into the river and use another of your businesses to hire a gondola to fetch it (then let the business declare bankruptcy...)

Not that I could care much about O'Donnell, but Trump really is a bigger piece of work.

Check that, the subject line reads "equally". That's not true. Rosie is a thousand million times better than Trump's special friend...

[bumblebee1]

6. Poor squirrel

n/t

[BlooInBloo]

4. (shrug) Rosie shouldn't have started it.

[Bluebear]

5. (shrug) so that gives him permission to make thinly veiled anti-gay remarks?

really?

[BlooInBloo]

7. I must've missed the anti-gay quote from Trump in your post.

[Bluebear]

9. Read the topic title again, maybe slowly?

[BlooInBloo]

23. Read what I said, accurately.

[rebel with a cause]

49. Maybe ....

Lesbian=Ellen DeGeneres=degenerate

[silverojo]

25. The anti-gay slur was the word "DEGENERATE"

And he's trying to woo away her partner with a MAN. Get it?

Listen to the other BS he's been spewing...the more he bitches about her, the more he sounds like Archie Bunker.

Trump is the biggest freakin' crybaby I've ever heard. He ought to just STFU and take it like a man. Geez, he's hardly the first public figure to be made fun of by a talk show host. He ought to walk a mile in Bill Clinton's shoes....


Larry King: "Hey, Donald, what's this dead animal on your head?"

[BlooInBloo]

27. "degenerate" is anti-gay? seriously? am I the last to learn this? damn.

[silverojo]

29. Homophobes think gays are degenerate

I hope you're just too stubborn to admit when you're wrong, because if you're honestly that stupid, you need to get out more. A lot more.

[BlooInBloo]

30. (shrug) just never knew that "degenerate" was anti-gay - excuse me all over the place.

[Lex]

32. Context is key when you're dealing with words used as slurs.

Always has been that way, not just in this instance.

[MadMaddie]

44. When Ellen Degeneres had her show on prime time...

The religious right...Pat Robertson etc used to refer to her as "Ellen Degenerate"...it was crude....

Trump is crass, he has no class and no amount of money will make him any more likeable....

He is just pissed because no one talks about him or to him like Rosie did...

[WinkyDink]

70. What ELSE would he mean by "degenerate", and that he could "lure"

her partner away, and that Rosie wishes she could have crowned Miss USA?

[Bobbieo]

10. Who are Donald and Rosie ?????

[WinkyDink]

71. Seriously??

[Diane R]

15. Did your watch her show? She didn't start anything. He's a wimp.

[Dorian Gray]

31. She may have started it

but he's the only one whining on and on and on and on to the media every single day. They both look foolish, but in my opinion, he looks like the bigger fool now.

[Montauk6]

8. He's an attention-whore, pure and simple.

Plus, you'd think he would've found a soul-mate in Rosie (crude, tough, arrogant, pushy, disgusting). Or maybe he avoids mirrors (that would explain that silly red rat's nest north of the eyebrows).

[Freddie Stubbs]

13. Agreed. They are two pees in a pod

That was not a mispelling.

[rebel with a cause]

50. The apprentice is coming back on

He is just trying to drum up interest in a show that has pretty much ran its course. I least I hope it has.

[no_hypocrisy]

11. Memo to Donald:

1. Not everyone agrees with your opinions, and you are welcome to share them with us. They're not justified however.

2. Attacking Rosie O'Donnell may have a blowback effect. Like losing viewership for your sixth (perhaps last) season of The Apprentice. I saw on AOL something about an informal boycott. (I don't know if it's because you went after a woman, called her "fat" and gay like it's a bad thing, called her a "failure", "stupid", etc., and let's face it, who's perfect? Certainly not you -- you gotta concede that point Rosie made.)

3. Your vituperative invectives only reflect that Rosie's criticisms obviously threaten you or your perceived sense of self. Your reaction suggests that Rosie hit close to the mark and you agree with her. You could have ignored them, or made a suave pithy, English Drawing Room remark, and let it go. But let me tell you: the adage that "There is no such thing as bad publicity" is bullshit. Sure there is. Ask your PR firm (if they haven't already fired themselves from you. You're a loose cannon, son.)

4. Let's face it: You picked the wrong girl. You guys are just two kids from Queens who got into it and can't get out of it. Rosie will fight back, unlike Martha Stewart. And you won't weather it as much as you think you will.

5. You may have gold paint all over your penthouse, but you're still a punk. Nobody's buying your act that money buys class. You're living proof.

BTW, don't waste your time making me a codefendant to Rosie's suit. Truth and/or opinion is a defense in defamation cases.

[Union Thug]

46. "5. You may have gold paint all over your penthouse, but you're still a punk..."

Brilliant. You nailed it.

[WinkyDink]

72. The alliteration is pretty cool, too!

[Drum]

12. I'm fascinated by this...

:puke:

Not.

[salin]

14. bingo

its a yawn.

[Bluebear]

16. Many gay folk are offended by the remarks, sorry

[Drum]

22. I definitely didn't mean to imply that bashing is ok,

and wasn't aware before now that this PR war was predicated on any of that, so please no I don't mean to make light of that aspect. Hell no.

Just many-years-past-sick-of the donald.

[Bluebear]

58. it's all good, drum

[Missy Vixen]

87. He's a short-fingered vulgarian!

>Just many-years-past-sick-of the donald.<

The voice of reason! :loveya: :hug:

Julie
just one more member of the Drum fan club

[salin]

24. I don't mean to offend -

I just could care less about Trump. I don't mean to stifle criticism - he is being an #ss. Criticize away - he has earned it. I just avoid celebrity stories like the plague - not just celebriaty stories but also the "missing white girl of the month" stories. Tuned out Peterson, Holloway and others. Not comparaing the stories - just my lack of attention to them.

[Bluebear]

59. no sweat

this story has 'escalated' for gay folk because of his seemingly rather deliberate choice of slurs

[donheld]

61. Yes it is a deliberate choice of slurs

Donald is showing his true colors. I was ambivalent about all this till it became a gay issue.

[Scout1071]

17. I don't remember him saying he would send a man, but rather that

he would send "somebody."

[JohnnyLib2]

18. To summarize: he's an attention whore who uses gay-bashing

to get more attention. She may be helping with this feud.

Delete. Change channels. Ignore.

[PsN2Wind]

19. I'd take O'Donnell

in a cage match.

[WiseButAngrySara]

20. Boy, talk about a classic case of projection! You could so

easily transpose all he accuses Rosie of and apply it to himself.

..."he's crude, he's tough, he's arrogant, he's pushy, he's disgusting. In certain ways he's a degenerate."

"I'm surprised that so many people hate Trump. They hate him."

[smirkymonkey]

89. That's exactly what I was thinking....

He's described himself perfectly. He's so vulgar. All that money and not an ounce of class.

[Mojambo]

21. There's only one way to solve this: Celebrity Cage Fighting

My money is on Rosie.

[silverojo]

28. She'd break that whiny bastard in half over her knee

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Skittles]

33. Donald has no use for women he cannot exploit

no indeed

[mitchum]

39. Skittles, you are absolutely correct

[Catherine Vincent]

34. Trump had an opportunity to come out smelling like a rose in all this.

After Rosie made all her jokes about him and when reporters asked him to comment on it, he should have said something like this:

"Well I think Rosie O'Donald is a funny comedian. I know it was at my expense but I won't respond in kind. I've always been a fan of Rosie. I was a little disappointed that she attacked me the way she did but like I said, I'll just let it go. I wish her the best in her endeavors and she is a great addition on "The View".

After saying something like that, it would have ended or Rosie would have felt the guilt trip and apologized or something. Imo.

[snacker]

88. I agree...

I thought it would have been extremely gentlemanly of him to donate money to one of Rosie's charities. She would have most certainly changed her attitude toward Donald Trump and he would have come out of this smelling like a rose. Instead, he chose to take the low road.

[Blue-Jay]

35. I wouldn't be surprised if this whole "feud" was just attention-whoring.

By both of them.

[Capn Amerika]

102. That is what I thought.

Viewership of "The View" can't be all that great, the Star Jones thing seemed like a stunt as well. Babs Walters knows how to play the publicity card. I'll bet they make up on of all places "The View".

[breakaleg]

36. The only reason Trump is mad is because she made fun of his hair!

Lots of people have asked about his hair, but none have called it a comb-over. He's reacting like a spoiled child and because of who he is, people are afraid say so to him directly.

[Oldtimeralso]

37. "DEGENERATE"

Didn't Trump say that his daughter was hot and if she was not his daughter he would date her?
Now is that the definition of"DEGENERATE".

[smirkymonkey]

90. His daughter looks attractive if you see a photograph of her,

but the minute she opens her mouth you realize that she is as crude and vulgar as her daddy. It makes her most unattractive.

[MiniMe]

38. Trump has lost it over this

Lets face it, Rosie is a comedian and an entertainer. Would Trump have gotten this mad if Jay Leno or David Letterman made the same jokes? I doubt it. Trump is supposed to be a businessman, and you just can't make things like this personal because you look like a fool. Coming back and saying he had not personally been bankrupt was fine, making fun of physical attributes is going too far.

[omega minimo]

40. Trump is a pig

[SammyWinstonJack]

41. Trump needs a hair dresser! Really, with all his power, why is he bothering with Rosie?

This is pure PR crap! Who gives crap? Don't we have more important things too worry about? Rosie and Trump can go f#@k themselves!

[HuffleClaw]

42. this is not remotely newsworthy.

why not spend time watching 'hard copy' ?

[rebel with a cause]

52. I agree but we are still posting.

:rofl:

[Bluebear]

60. Gays & lesbians do not appreciate being called degenerates

by famous figures. And lesbians generally don't prefer that famous figures threaten to come after their partners with "men to woo them away".

[Scout1071]

81. He never said he would send a man to take her girlfriend and he never once

said she was a degenerate because she is gay. That is just jumping to conclusioins. And he has the right to say that he thinks a gay person is a degenerate just as much as he has the right to say a straight person is degenerate. I think this mob mentality in here is over-the-top. Read the article. Nowhere in it does he reference her sexuality. I saw the interview on TV and I don't recall him saying that he was going to send a man to take away Rosie's girlfriend. He did say that he could send "somebody", but I really don't believe he said a man specifically.

Update - here is the link to the actual TV interview. Nowhere in it does he say he's going to send a man to steal Kelly, but rather that he will send "somebody" :

"Rosie is somebody out of control who really just doesn't have it and she ought to be careful because I'll send one of my friends to pick up her girlfriend and I think it would be very easy," he said.

Why is everyone assuming that Donald trump wouldn't send a lesbian friend to pick her up?


http://www.accesshollywood.com/news/ah3204.shtml

Watch the video people. He never says anything remotely anti-gay. He says some very anti-Rosie things. Big difference.

And I will go shower because I was actually forced to defend Donald Trump. Yuck.

[Zhade]

91. 'Degenerate' is a time-tested slur for gays/lesbians.

It's been used as such for a long time.

[6000eliot]

45. I heard him say this on David Letterman.

I have to wonder where GLAAD is. As a gay man, I found that comment offensive. Especially after the way he and Dave were slobbering about Miss USA making out with another woman.

[BushOut06]

48. Do you realize you're playing right into their hands?

Both of them are benefiting tremendously from all this controversy! The View's ratings are up, and 'The Apprentice' starts this week. While the animosity may be real, they're both feeding the feud for all it's worth, hoping that people like us will keep talking about it.

Remember, in show biz, there's no such thing as bad publicity. They'd rather you be talking bad things about them than not talking about them at all.

[rebel with a cause]

53. Don't watch either show

or the reports about this. Only know what I read, and I watch tv most of the day. :7

[candidate]

51. Ugh. They're both embarassments to humanity.

Rosie moreso. Obnoxious loud-mouths like her are the primary reason why so many people dislike celebrities who have political opinions.

Plus, she's an absolute idiot. Her Chinese impersonation was an all-time low for her.

[WinkyDink]

73. I.e., she's too liberal for you.

[Rex]

54. Failure Trump should know all about being a degenerate.

Had to get down on his knees and beg Reagan's Administration to bail him out for the sum of 600 million dollars.

I don't care for Rosie, but Donald is pure scum.

[B Calm]

68. The hypocrite Donald Trump has no right to judge anybody's morals!

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

55. Can't Argue With A Thing That He Said.

The sending men over to try and woo her girlfriend is a bit much, but the rest of it was fairly accurate in my opinion.

[WinkyDink]

74. So you think it's "accurate" that Rosie is "ugly"?

[Shell Beau]

79. I think she has made herself ugly.

And I don't necessarily mean physically. Trump too. Both are jerks IMO. Trump is being extremely mean and childish here, but honestly no surprise. She has been pretty mean in the past too. I can't stand either one of them. But he definitely took it too far by calling her a slob and degenerate.

[Zhade]

93. 'Degenerate' is an anti-gay slur. I'm sure you DON'T agree with him using that!

NT!

[StrictlyRockers]

56. Wotta freakin' boob. A real class act, he.

[Raine]

62. Trump is a reprobate

who has no respect or use for women except for sex, he's such a pig! :puke: :mad:

[Hekate]

63. Talk about projection! The Donald has painted his own portrait!

"If you talk to Rosie for a little while, she's crude, she's tough, she's arrogant, she's pushy, she's disgusting. In certain ways she's a degenerate."

Does that man feel threatened, or what? What a clown.

Hekate

[Fire Walk With Me]

64. Don't feed their shameless self-promotion. No free advertising.

[MadHound]

65. Geez, can we ignore the two little kids who don't know how to play nice with each other already?

I don't care about Rosie, I don't care about Trump, I don't care about a party girl Miss USA. All these three respective idiots are doing is filling the airwaves with tripe and nonsense, diverting everybody's attention from more important matters. There is no need to give these fools a public platform for their little hissy fits. Let us just ignore them, and they will go away, and we can use the column space and bandwidth for more important things, like real news.

But sadly it seems that America loves its tripe, cause there's always some stupid shit like this in the news, keeping people occupied, diverting their attention away from matters that are much more important.:eyes:

[Bluebear]

76. It's not tripe when someone makes anti-gay comments in the media.

[Shell Beau]

80. You are right, it isn't. But this is Trump here. Are you surprised?

And I bet he will say he didn't mean it in an anti-gay way. I think he did, but he wants this attention. And he is getting it. In a way, he wins. At least in his eyes.

[MadHound]

95. Who made an anti-gay comment? I really don't know, I really don't care.

Following every little action of these respective idiots is allowing them to gain power over your life. All you are doing is feeding into their need for self-agrandizement. Ignore them and they will go away.

There are much more important things to deal with in the world than these sorts of people and their little tiffs. So somebody made an anti-gay slur, so what? Millions of others do the same each and every day, doesn't make it right, and I would love to see our nation spiritually advance to the point where no such comments existed. But meanwhile, they do, and bringing attention to a B list celeb when they do so only fulfills their need for attention. This is basic psychology. There are people out there who desperately need attention of any kind, and they will do what it takes to get it, including racist, bigoted, homophobic garbage. Ignore them, and they will cease to do such actions and fade away:shrug: Making a big fuss just fulfills their desire to be in the spotlight and perversely encourages them to even greater acts of outrage.

[Zhade]

96. Millions of others aren't commanding the whore media's attention right now.

Trump's bigotry is getting play, and he's not being held accountable.

Sure, it's trivial next to wars and collapsing empires, but it remains yet another example of bigotry skating, and it's wrong.

Just because you don't care doesn't mean we shouldn't.

[MadHound]

100. And the reason his bigotry is skating?

Because he knows, and the media knows that outrage sells, no matter what the outrage is. This is a typical media driven "scandal", the same sort that are cranked out on a regular basis. If enough people refuse to give this sort of shit credence by refusing to follow, guess what, it will go away. But meanwhile, this little broo ha ha has boosted ratings for Rosie's show, for Trump's show, boosted circulation for the various tabloid rags and gossip mags, and everybody, including the main participants are making a nice little profit over this media circus, while the public is bemused, diverted, and has their blood pressure raised for no good reason.

This sort of shit reminds me a lot of pro wrestling. There's lots of fierce macho BS talk beforehand, a grudge is worked up between the contestants, lots of superheroic fighting going on during the match, with each participant seemingly bent on killing the other. And yet when the crowd goes home, and the lights are turned out, the two participants go out and have a beer together, slyly laughing and congratulating each other on how well they parted the rubes from their money.

Stop feeding these sorts of frenzies. People whine and moan about how bad our media is, yet time and again fall for these dog and pony shows.

You want to hold Trump accountable, you want to punish him? Ignore him and ignore this whole mass media manipulation. Never pay attention to a single thing the man does or says for the rest of his life. For somebody who craves attention as much as he does, it is the worst possible punishment you could come up with. Continue to be outraged, continue to persue this media produced frenzy, and all you're really doing is validating the guy and what he does. He doesn't care whether the attention is positive or negative, he just cares that it is attention.

[Zhade]

104. Ignoring it WON'T make it go away. You're too smart to think otherwise.

Should we ignore, say, Pat Robertson when he rails about gays being evil?

How about pope ratzinger?

Again - you don't have to care that yet another anti-gay slur is being bandied about in the media. I choose to pay attention to the climate that still harbors hate for those like me.

[Bluebear]

97. Fine, you don't care, don't comment further.

Meanwhile, I can pay attention to more than one issue at a time.

[MadHound]

101. Fine, continue to feed the beast that you claim to abhor.

Just don't be suprised when it keeps coming back again and again:shrug:

[Bluebear]

103. Yeah, a message on an internet board will keep it coming back again & again.

And if one doesn't comment on it, it will stop. :eyes:

[SalmonChantedEvening]

66. Yet another sad old chestnut from Trump

"All that gal needs is a good man and she'll stop bein' a lesbian"

Ah, the mentality of the Neanderthal. :puke:


So, um ... Donny, if someone's bisexual, which gender do you send at them??



:dilemma:

[warrior1]

67. I think he

secretly loves her.

Donald and Rose sitting in a tree...

[WinkyDink]

69. Every adjective describes himself perfectly.

[a kennedy]

75. He's a small little man.......and really, who is he kidding with that hair.

I just ignore him.

[graywarrior]

77. What is he, fucking 12 years old?

[Shell Beau]

78. He is such a jerk. I don't care for Rosie, but damn!!

He is being extremely childish and flat out mean. And all the things he says about Rosie, he can also say for himself. He could have retaliated in a much more mature manner if he just wanted ratings for his show. Calling her a fat slob and degenerate is crossing the line. Asshole!

[pitohui]

82. publicity stunt by the both of them

they are sharing a martini after hours and laughing their asses off about all the publicity this completely fake-ass spat is generating

my theory anyway

[Zhade]

94. You fail at theories - you really think Rosie would be yukking it up about his anti-gay slur?

I highly doubt it.

[wildhorses]

83. the good ole boy network---made him what he is today--

what a pissing contest:eyes:

[terrya]

84. "Degenerate". "The Donald" is a big fucking homophobe, then.

Unless you've been living in a cave for the past few years, you know that Rosie O' Donnell is an out lesbian. And now we know that "The Donald" is a bigoted piece of shit.

My symphathies are now with Rosie 1,000%. Trump was a sleazy shitstain before this...now he's a bigoted, sleazy shitstain.

[philosophie_en_rose]

86. Rosie wins, because she STFU first.

I don't see how Donald Trump could possibly be such an idiot about this. Attacking her as "unfunny, loud, and insulting" would be accurate. But attacking her as a "fat, stupid, degenerate slob" is just unreasonable.

Note to Donald: when someone insults you, you should not react in a way that proves them right.

[Pushed To The Left]

92. How long before this feud becomes a rap battle? n/t

[Danger Mouse]

98. He's just a worthless fool...

just like most celebrities, and just like the worthless fools who worship the worthless fools like Donald Trump.
I love it when these morons feud, it's like monkeys flinging their own poo at each other.
Cept the monkeys are more dignified, more talented, and more worth paying attention to.

[LynneSin]

99. I hope Trump's new wife dumps him

How can anyone be married to the man with the WORLD'S WORST COMBOVER.

I don't care how much money he has - I have standards