Gods the venom that is spewed in the "main" forum here!

[KitchenWitch]

Not a direct quote, but the gist of some of the posts goes something like this: "those climbers deserved to die up there!"

I know I am in hypersensitive mode tonight, but shit, that makes me so sad.

[AngusMacBangus]

1. Thats kind of crazy

I guess in my line of work, since sometimes I run into burning buildings, if I die..I deserved it??

[crim son]

3. The difference might be, and I'm not sure,

that you don't run into burning buildings for recreation, but because you are paid for it.

However, nobody deserves to die on the freezing mountainside. It's a risk. You take that risk too.

[AngusMacBangus]

I guess

but I'd rather die in a collapse than freeze to death....

[SPKrazy]

11. Nobody Deserves To Die on Freezing Mountains

didn't you go to bed yet?

you are right though

deserve does not equal shit happens.

(I don't even know if I'm making sense)

:eyes:

[SeattleGirl]

Hate to say it, but

I'd bet there would be some who would say you did. "Well, you CHOSE to do that, so don't go looking for sympathy for you or your family." :eyes:

[AngusMacBangus]

9. True

I wish they could go a funeral of one of our guys, its a really moving experience....

[SeattleGirl]

13. I've not been to a funeral, but I have stood by the roadside

when the funeral processions have gone by. All I can say is, :patriot: .

[AngusMacBangus]

16. Thanks for doing that

and believe me, we have seen you....Im usually good until the pipes start..then the shades go on.

[KitchenWitch]

17. Very moving!

bagpipes get me all misty everytime.

[SeattleGirl]

20. The bagpipes get to me too.

Cannot hold back the tears.

[AngusMacBangus]

21. You arent the only one.....

[SeattleGirl]

2. Went a few rounds on that subject myself.

Defending the climbers, that is. Some of the "progressives" and "liberals" who post on DU....well, 'nuff said. :eyes:

[SPKrazy]

4. One Does Wonder

I guess it is a big tent?

:P

[SeattleGirl]

5. I'm all for the big tent ideal.

However, I'm against domestic violence, if you know what I mean.

[SPKrazy]

8. Domestic Violence Doesn't Belong In The Tent

nor does bigotry, or a lot of other things being spewed by so called liberals

[SeattleGirl]

14. Agreed.

I have to say a good word for the mods, though. They're pretty damned good at shutting down the really inflammatory posters.

[KitchenWitch]

6. I have not posted in those threads

I simply do not have the energy right now for that, but mannnnnn.

:cry:

[SPKrazy]

18. Me Either KW

I have lost my gumption

:shrug:

[KitchenWitch]

19. I usually have plenty of gumption to spare

But I have found that there are battles that are completely un-winnable, and therefore not worth expending too much energy on.

[Robeson]

7. That's been going on for days around here....

...I'm amazed at what passes for "progressive" now-a-days.

[KitchenWitch]

10. Oh I know it has been going on for awhile

I just reached a point of emotional critical mass with it just now.

:grr:

[Nicole]

12. Pretty ugly at times

Sometimes I feel the need to shower when I leave GD.

[KitchenWitch]

15. No kidding

Sometimes it is difficult to distinguish between who is us, and who is a freeper troll.

[SeattleGirl]

22. I think there has been a major invasion of trolls.

GD has always had its share of heated-debate threads, and I'm participated in some of them. But for the most part, a level of civility has been maintained. These days, though, yikes! Oftentimes, the debates turn into personal attacks. :crazy:

[ghostsofgiants]

25. I dunno, I've heard some awful shit from some longtime members.

(See below, for example.)

[SeattleGirl]

30. I agree, primate. Just seems that the vitriol has been ratcheted up

about 50 notches lately, which is why I think that we've had an infestation of trolls. But yeah, I've seen some rather shocking things from some long-time DUers.

[Robeson]

27. Bingo! I've think we've had a major infestation....

...of them, as of late.

[Nicole]

23. I imagine

someone is sitting back & laughing at the mayhem they caused. Creeps.

[ghostsofgiants]

24. I once read someone in GD say something to the effect that...

Nuking Japan in WWII was okay because since it was a time of war, the life of a US soldier was worth more than the collective lives of everyone in Japan. This was from a long-time poster. I've been fairly jaded about the idiocy in GD since then and have decided to stick mainly to the lounge just so I don't end up putting a hole in the wall with my forehead.

[KitchenWitch]

26. I hear you loud and clear

I have, for the most part, stayed out of GD since I moved, but every once in awhile I try to read stuff in there and walk away shaking my head.

[Oeditpus Rex]

32. Not an uncommon sentiment

I've heard/read it many times — but usually by a Freeper or other uni-cellular life form.

I used to hang in a forum for classic Chevy owners that had a board for general discussion, much of which was political. One guy was waving the flag all over Iraq this one time, and it seemed he was saying Iraqi lives aren't worth anything. I pressed him until he said, "I don't care if non-Americans die."

I was startled to learn that people cool enough to be into old cars could be such raving RW maniacs. Guess I'm still kind of naive.

[ghostsofgiants]

33. But this was from a guy who was a 50,000+ and seemingly somewhat popular here.

(I'll give you a hint, he was tombstoned in one of the most amusing tombstonigs this site has ever seen, haha.)

[Oeditpus Rex]

34. Oh, ar!

I don't have a memory for stuff like that. x(

Just shows t' go ya, though — you never really know about humans.



Oh, wait... BB? :shrug:

[ghostsofgiants]

35. Check your PM, haha.

[Oeditpus Rex]

36. Back atcha

:thumbsup:

[ForrestGump]

28. I haven't been in touch with any kind of news

(I almost always get it from LBN, anyway) in a while, so I didn't know about the climbers, but the response in GD is all too predictable. I've joined the fray before in relation to similar occurrences (a death on Everest, the whole Steve Irwin desecrationfest) and could probably just post the same wording in reference to the current issue. It's syndrome that these sick f***s have....they're not only lacking outright logic but monumentally lacking in compassion and -- further, and importantly -- almost certainly spew their vitriol largely because they never did a damned thing in their entire lives (or, at least, nothing that equates even remotely to what people who choose to participate in potentially 'high-risk' activity accept as the price of admission).

To hell with them. If I was God and had to decide who 'deserved' to die, it'd be f***knuckles like these GDers rather than random climbers...really, though, at least those people who died on that mountain lived before they died.

[KitchenWitch]

29. Good points!

:hi:

[ForrestGump]

39. Always staring at

my 'points' :P

Hi! :hi:

[SeattleGirl]

31. There's also a lot of what I call "illogical logic" going on over there.

Instead of "if, then, thus, and therefore", it's "Because it's MY opinion, that's why!" Oy. I love debates based on logic and reasonableness, even if -- and sometimes especially if -- passion is thrown into the mix. But passion without logic or reason often devolves into just plain meanness.

BTW, nice to see you, Forrest. :loveya:

[ForrestGump]

40. Hi, Ms Girl

:hug:

It's nice to see you, too!

And that's because it's my opinion, and therefore Law, that you are a Most Excellent (and Babely) Young Lady. I will tolerate no dissent on this point...none whatsoever. :loveya:

[BuelahWitch]

37. Lots of vitriol about Laura Bush and her skin cancer too

I don't like the woman, but I can't dance with joy when I hear she's sick. I disliked Reagan alot more, yet I felt sorry for him and his family when he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's.
Think of it this way: what if it were Hilary Clinton and Jimmy Carter? :shrug:

[xchrom]

38. oh those people are just pigs.

you have more important and wonderful things to do than let those folk get under your skin -- which is all they intend anyway.

[buddhamama]

41. Locking...

Let's not do this.




Sincerely,
buddhamama- DU Mod