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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 01:30 AM
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UFO video from China
Edited on Sat Oct-28-06 01:57 AM by Bleachers7
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 01:31 AM
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1. A link would be most helpful
:evilgrin:
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 01:33 AM
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4. This link worked for me:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 01:40 AM
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12. Oops
Fixed :dunce:
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 01:53 AM
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16. Bleachers7, the YouTube link adds music and Chinese characters.
Looks pretty "produced" to me --

The other link I posted is more like the raw footage.

You can see some pixel differences around the "object" when you enlarge it to full screen.

Someone with more technical knowledge of digital would have to judge whether this is a real image, or "doctored" in any way.

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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 01:57 AM
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17. I found it on You Tube
I actually wasn't aware of the other one until someone posted it. You Tube has a few versions of this.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 01:31 AM
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2. I'm not seeing a link to a video.
:shrug:
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 01:47 AM
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15. Holy Roswell! If you open that video to FULL SCREEN, it plays out
frame by frame. The last frame before it disappears shows SEVERAL BRIGHT LIGHTS around the edges of the object and on the bottom, too.

I don't know how to save a single image -- but maybe you do.

This video has been around since August 2006. Strange we haven't noticed it before now.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:12 AM
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19. I can't get the Metacafe version to go full screen on my browser
But the Youtube version has two replays: slow-mo and slow-mo enlarged. I didn't notice any video artifacts in the Youtube version and frankly, even jaggies and general mpeg lossiness could be explained away with video compression. So it's impossible for me to say if it's real or not.

If it's fake, it's very well done. And if it's real, well...I'm always amazed by stories of people who run toward them, expecting to meet enlightened beings. Run for the hills unless you like anal probes, I always say.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 01:31 AM
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3. Linkee?
Please? Chinese UFOs are the best. Even if they are communist.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 01:35 AM
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5. Pretty amazing video -- lookee heree...
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 01:37 AM
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7. Anyone speak Cantonese, Mandarin or other Chinese dialects?
The people sound pretty surprised.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 01:39 AM
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10. Holy FlashFlight, Batman!
That one sure took off with awesome speed and sparkle! :wow:
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 01:40 AM
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11. Yes, those last few frames were pretty awesome...
I have no idea what the backstory is on this.

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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 01:41 AM
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13. Wow. That is one of the better UFO videos I've ever seen
Edited on Sat Oct-28-06 01:54 AM by Hardhead
Evenly spaced lights around the rim all fire in unison, followed by a brief flash of white light and poof! Gone.

Bleachers7's youtube link has a slow-mo of the last few frames, too. You can even see a hint of motion just before it disappears.

For the record, I'm one of those people who believes that if UFO's are "real" they are most likely man-made and not from another planet. Not because I don't believe in life on other planets, but because interstellar space travel is extremely impractical and Occam's Razor would suggest a terrestrial origin.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 01:36 AM
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6. Your NSAT&T is sooooo much better than mine!
Made this one a few months ago....

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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 01:44 AM
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14. Aww, thanks, but yours is good, too!
We were thinking along the same lines. It's little things like this (massive government spying) that bring people together. :)
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:19 AM
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20. Still have to use AT&T phone service here
Edited on Sat Oct-28-06 02:20 AM by Whoa_Nelly
The other day when transferring service to new address, the service person asked if I wanted to go back to using their Internet service, too. I told her NO! AT&T sells out to the NSA. She said oh,no they don't do that! Told her to do some reading...could Google it and find all sorts of articles about it.

She paused, said something to someone else on the side...then said to me, "AT&T never looks into or reads anyone's email or anything!" I said, "Yeah...right....moving right along...let's get this phone transfer of service done."

She started trying to convince me some more, and I told her to do some reading and let's move on... :rofl:
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Suich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 01:37 AM
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8. OK...I give up.
What's the story???
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 01:37 AM
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9. Sounds like a job for SHADO
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 02:05 AM
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18. Wow. That's a great video. n/t
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 04:00 AM
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21. I'm 99% sure it's doctored (post-processed). Here's why:
  The video contains two objects: The building and the object. The craft appears to move slowly from right to left and then appears to move (with dramatic apparently-instantaneous acceleration) to the left, out of frame. The movement the camera makes doesn't grossly affect viewing of the image because the distance between the building and the object remain constant, minus the lateral movement which appears steady. However, in the very last frame before the object "takes off" to the left, the camera's motion causes the building to move down and to the left but the object stays in exactly the same place it was a split second earlier and then goes through the light-up sequence before zooming out of frame. Here are the two final frames (IIRC, right at the end of second 1:04 and beginning of 1:05):



  I placed the images side by side so that you could see that there is no vertical movement in the object even though there is vertical movement in the building. There is also no horizontal movement but you'll need an image viewer to see that. This "persistent" quality of the object leads me to believe that it was post-processed into the video.

  If you are unable to see the effect that I'm talking about, save both images and view them in a picture viewer (like the free, awesome InfranView). You can switch back and forth but you'll see that the craft "sticks" in the same spot even though its placement should move with the building.

Now, it's possible that the craft chose that moment (a split second before it turns on it's lights and zooms away) to jump up but it's very unlikely that the movement would be exactly matched by the camera's random jittering.

I, uh, sometimes like to analyze videos very closely. It's sort of a hobby of mine, though not usually spatial stuff like this. I don't think the person who uploaded it knew that it had been processed otherwise they would not have included the very slow slo-mo. If you don't stare at either object but at the space between them you can see it (if you've got an eye for such things) at full speed. And in the slo-mo it's really noticeable. You can see other, minor, tracking errors if you use this technique but it's most apparent right before the jump.

  Not to be a complete downer, the best UFO or at least "What the hell is that?" video I've ever seen is from Nellis AFB. There is an object which appears to change shape over time, sometimes quite rapidly. One point which is not often made is that it appears the camera which filmed the incident was an infra-red camera so bright spots equal hotspots or outgassing of some sort. There is a short clip on YouTube but there are longer, much higher quality videos if you search very, very thoroughly on-line along with transcripts and analysis.

  I personally believe that it's not a spacecraft but an extremely unusual atmospheric phenomena. Back before trolls, pixies, gnomes, etc. had been photographed regularly and become "old hat" among the meteorology community they too were openly doubted or chalked up to something else. Blue jets, especially, are the most incredible atmospheric phenomena I have ever heard of and it's too bad more people aren't aware of the them and other newly-discovered wonders of nature.

PB
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 04:17 AM
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22. You've made an excellent analysis...
well done!
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 04:23 AM
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23. Thanks! Was fun to get to the bottom of it because it is pretty...
...spectacular footage.

PB
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 11:49 AM
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25. Great job
I never noticed that jump. I overlayed one of your images on top of the other and sure enough, the building moves and the saucer doesn't. You could work as a UFO debunker. :D
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 09:26 AM
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24. Faked, apparently.
The lights that flash are far sharper than the apparent UFO.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 01:23 PM
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26. Maybe they are brighter?
:shrug:
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