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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 12:41 PM
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Corgis: a genetic crossbreed between weiner dogs & border collies?
A Corgi:



A weiner dog:



Australian border collie mix:

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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 12:49 PM
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1. The last dog is actually an Australian Cattle Dog, quite different than
a border collie.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 12:57 PM
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3. That's Wikipedia for you
Someone on Wikipedia labled this dog as an "Australian work dog - a border collie cross":

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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 12:51 PM
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2. what about a jack russel or rat terrier and a dachsund?
side note: it's thought that minpins are the result of breeding dachsunds and miniature greyhounds (or wippets).
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 12:59 PM
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4. Maybe the Jack Russell
The minpins do look a lot like the smooth daschunds.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 01:04 PM
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5. yep.
Edited on Sat Oct-14-06 01:08 PM by SlavesandBulldozers
i just ran Carmine (my minpin) off leash in an open area (not advisable with the breed, but he needs sprints). seeing a miniature pinscher at full clip is something to behold. they are like lightning. every once in a while they will switch to a prance that looks exactly like a deer. the Germans used to call them rea-pinschers, due to their resemblance to a small deer (rea deer) that is now extinct.

how are corgi's temperments? they seem cool.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 07:04 PM
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7. I don't know them that well
But whenever I see them being walked, I can't help but think "weiner dog mutant". They're funny-looking dogs.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 11:19 AM
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16. they definitely do look like mutants
there are a lot of them in my apartment complex. i love the confidence in their walks.
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 08:03 PM
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9. They have wonderful temperments if properly trained and socialized.
I have had them for years. They are highly intelligent and great little watch dogs. I wouldn't recommend them for families with very young children because the puppies do tend to nip until they mature and learn not to. They make excellent therapy dogs, and do I use my male for this kind of "work."
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 11:23 AM
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17. awesome. thanks! n/t
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MrsMatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 01:48 PM
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6. I believe I heard somewhere
that corgis are decendents of the Swedish Vallhund.
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 07:59 PM
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8. Corgis are not any kind of genetic crossbreed! OMG
It is believed that Corgis were brought to England in 1107 by Flemish weavers who settled in Wales. They came from the same family as Keeshonds, Pomeranians, Finnish Spitz and other nordic breeds. There are no Dachshunds in the family tree. Pembrokes and Cardigans used to be crossbred until the 1930s when they became distinct seperate breeds. The Pembroke is the older of the two breeds.
The long,low body was developed to nip at the heels of cattle, and to avoid the kicking hooves. They are wonderful house pets but can still do herding work if they are trained for it.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 11:37 AM
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18. wow. great stuff. i love the history of dog breeds. n/t
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 08:04 PM
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10. Corgis seem to have a reputation
for being nasty little f***ers, like a few other small dogs that probably suffer from Napoleon Complex. I know a couple of people who've been savaged (well, okay..perhaps that's overstating the damage) by corgis and I've had a pair lunge at me before their leashes kicked in and saved me from their rotund assault.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 08:07 PM
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11. They're nippy because that's how they herd.
They can be broken of that with proper training, but a lot of people don't put the effort in. Herding breeds always feel the need to being working, so their owners really need to make sure their dog feels like it has a job.
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 08:08 PM
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12. The Queen of England is a big Corgi fan...
...and has quite a little pack of them. Every few years, one of the little buggers goes on the rampage and kills one of the others. They do seem to be bad-tempered runts.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 08:36 AM
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14. Holy cow, I didn't know they could be that viscious
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 09:10 AM
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15. IIRC she has Pembrokeshire Corgis & one 'Dorgi' a dachs/corgi cross
due to one of Princess Michael of Kent's Dachsunds getting friendly during a family visit.
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 08:12 PM
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13. All dogs have to be trained. Corgis are from the herding group
so they are very protective of their "flock." They have been called "a large dog in a small package." They have the same instincts as other herding breeds such as the cattle dog or sheepdogs.
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