Question for the Yankees fans...

[driver8]

The Yankees play hard all season, kick ass, and make it to the playoffs.

So far, so good.

When the playoffs start, you guys send your farm team -- how come??

It just doesn't make sense to me.

[Drum]

1. Just snarky?

Same great team, just not on their A game. The past stats speak for themselves...many many titles. Dumping on the Yanks b'cause they don't do it EVERY year is a bizarre kind of taunt. You'd rather they win everything every time? All athletes are mortals, and every organization's plans are fallible. That's part of the point: they are in many ways just like us. Sports are spontaneous. Things happen right there in the moment, and nothing is fore-ordained. That's why we watch.

Let's us baseball fans just enjoy, whoever is playing, and hold on to the baseball season for as long as we can. Before long we'll be inundated with sports that remind us of winter, not summer....

[driver8]

2. One more question...

Why are Yankees fans so sensitive??

You would not believe the shit I listen to from Yankees fans at work. As soon as I give them shit about losing in the playoffs I get the standard, "this many World Series in this many years...we have this many rings...blah, blah, blah."

I realize a team can't win every year...but if Yankees fans want to talk shit (I'm not saying you, Drum), then they should be ready for some ribbing coming their way.

It is funny to me that every year they spend all of this money and get all of these players and kick ass in the American League. Then they get to the playoffs and get eliminated. (I know -- not every year!).

Jesus, lighten up.

I'm a freakin' Buffalo Bills fan -- believe me, I know about choking!

[Drum]

4. Here's one back:

why do so many folks, on- and off-line, characterize everyone who roots for the Yankees with one set of attributes?

[driver8]

5. Why are SOME Yankees fans so sensitive?

Better?

[Drum]

6. Dunno...why not take it on a case-by-case basis?

Anything with opposing teams brings out partisanship in people. Sports, politics, gameshows, whatever. I have two friends that argue endlessly about pro-basketball...I concluded after a few weeks of it that they had little else to talk about, and was an excuse for them to flirt. Weird, but to each his-or-her own....
Me, I like the game...more each season, as I learn more about baseball. I moved to NYC in '89 and the Yanks had some prolific times and great players during those following years (many of whom have before or since done good things with other clubs.) Naturally it was on TV a lot then, and I adopted the Y's as my hometown team. Coming from WV there was nobody in my past to still support (as a kid I didnt know or see too much of the Pirates, the nearest MLB team,) the way transplants from other cities or regions do.

I am sorry if your co-workers have tiresome opinions on their fav teams, but I'm just saying: don't paint us all with the same brush.

[driver8]

7. As you have learned, I am sure, that there are many baseball

rivalries -- one of the biggest being between the Boston Red Sox and the New York Yankees.

I am a Red Sox fan...we have suffered the abuse of Yankees fans for years.

Red Sox fans and Yankees fans give each other shit -- that's part of the game for us.

I am sorry if I hurt your feelings...I was not speaking directly to you.

This is the lounge. We poke fun at each other.

I am not painting all of you with the same brush. My original post did not say, "Drum, let me ask you this question..."

I don't know what else to say.

[Drum]

8. Truly!

No offence taken, friend, and I do very much appreciate the Lounge's give-n-take. Thanks for reminding me why I love this place.
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I should in full-disclosure mode say that I'm in Boston at this moment, and was trying to enjoy some oysters at the Union Oyster House at the moment the Yanks were sucked-under for good on Saturday. Yikes! Felt a lot of the "giving shit" there firsthand...had for a week beforehand...and will no doubt for the remainder of my stay here.
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I must also confess that I've seen so very many posts here since Saturday night celebrating the Yankees end-of-season limping in the most derogatory ways, with great glee. I'm sorry that those posts colored my response to yours.
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But at least we've kept this thread kicked for a little while, right?

See ya next season!

[madinmaryland]

3. That is true to an extent, but the Yankees do spend nearly twice

as much as their nearest competitor. Given that they spend an exorbatant amount more than their nearest competitor it is expected that they will perform better than their competitors.

[dr.strangelove]

9. The yanks are far from the only team to have a bad playoffs

and I can hardly call getting to the ALCS 2 out of the last five years bad. How many mlb teams would kill for making the playoffs 11 times and getting past the first round in 8 of those post-seasons. Thats hardly sending in a farm team. Detroit had the best pitchign in baseball. Calling the yankees a farm team is pretty disrespectful to Detroit. Detroit shut down the best hitters in baseball. I don't think it was the yanks who sucked, but the Tigers who ROCKED.

If you are just giving a little hell to the yankee fans, go ahead, they lost and the fans (me included) deserve a little butt kicking. But if you are seriously looking for the reason the yanks lost, I would look at three amazing starting pitching performances and a very good bullpen.

The yankees need to realize why they won 4 WS ten years ago. It was with GREAT starters, a shutout bullpen and solid hitters who scored runs. This team was starters who could keep it close and relief pitchers who would give up one or two runs and hitters who could put up 10 runs and squeeze out a win. But, when you are facing great pitching, the great hitters lose every time. I don't think rogers has had a game like that in five years. These Tigers sdeserve all the respect they get and I am pulling for them to win it all. The yankees should stop trading away pitching prospects and stop paying for old pitchers. Those great teams were a mix of players developed within and free agents.

[driver8]

12. True, true...I definitely did not mean to down play the performance

by the Tigers -- they played amazing baseball and their pitching was fantastic.

I am looking forward to watching them in the next round.

[dr.strangelove]

18. cool

I really think they will win it all this year. Good for them. Talent does not mean $$$. That team was built from within with good scouting and smart trades.

[bigwillq]

10. The Tigers were the better team.

They had better pitching and their hitters came up big in the clutch.
Not much you can do.

Give credit to Detroit they played well.


Yankees won't win the Series again until some of their egos are put in check. They have no team chemistry, no desire and no balls (excuse my language but it's the truth).

They flat out got out played.

It's disappointing for sure. No excuses though. They got beat.

[driver8]

11. I agree -- the Tigers played great baseball.

The "no chemistry" thing is important. I live in Southern California and I like the Angels, too. The year that they won the Series, they were "a team." Talent wise, I am sure that they were not the best -- however, when it came to playing together and doing what needed to be done...no team could touch them.

Two thumbs up for the Tigers...I hope they keep it going!!

[mvd]

16. That about says it

The Yankees have been randomly hiring high priced players without thinking about the hunger that the team might have. BTW, I didn't choose to like the Yankees originally. I like them because my late grandmother, who I was very close to them, was a big fan.

[Burma Jones]

13. As a long time Orioles fan, I just have to say

that I wish Peter Angelos would spend what Steinbrenner does and have a quarter of the baseball sense. Well, at least I have my childhood memories of Orioles Glory..........

Go Cardinals.........

[DisgustedTX]

14. The "Captain" is not very INTANGIBLE!

[LisaM]

15. Yanks fans have been nice to me so far!

We're getting a free dinner from another couple - who are Yankees fans.

I do have one friend who is a Yankees fan who always has fresh reason every year they should win. At first it was becuase "they never do". Then they needed to win because the guys on the team were so great (this was when they had Tino Martinez, and some other likeable players). Then, there needed to be a Subway Series, so we were supposed to root for them that year. Then, it was becuase of September 11th. Finally, it was because her two sons, who are fairly young, just started following baseball and didn't remember ever seeing them win! I swear, she never runs out of reasons, though I don't know what her reason would have been this year, because she hasn't told me yet. Probably still because of her sons.

[driver8]

17. I'm not saying Yankees fans aren't nice...some of my best friends

(and my brother in law) are Yankees fans.

The Yankees lovers that I know like to talk smack all season -- it's fun to give it back to them.

Believe me, I take advantage of every opportunity.

[underpants]

19. They can all go home and put on their Mets gear now

[Phillycat]

20. AHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!