Is Virginia in the south?

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

I think it is and a certain DUer, who is lost in Virginia, is so lost that she doesn't even recognize that she is in the south.

She is clearly not lost in the mid-Atlantic.

[cleveramerican]

1. I'm from Ma.

so yeah Virginia is the south. Baltimore seems like the south to me.

[LostinVA]

35. My friend from Maine considers anything south of NYC "The South"

Seriously.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

39. I think PA is anything west of Hackettsown, NJ.

Basically, I want to give Warren & Sussex counties to PA. And make South Jersey a seperate state from North Jersey, since it really is totally different.

[LostinVA]

42. I know lots of people in SJ who totally agree with you on that

And have been talking about seceding ever since I was a toddler.

I grew up thinking anything north of Camden was North Jersey.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

43. New Brunswick is the demarcation line (and I'm being generous)

Central Jersey always claims to be north Jersey and we always have to inform them they're south Jersey.

[LostinVA]

45. Hehehehe

[NJ Democrats]

139. Hey!

I used to live in Sussex, its not that different from Hackettsown. (Btw, do you know where Panther Valley is? My grandparents live there)

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

140. Yeah, I know. The leader of the NJ KKK lives (or did) in Hackettstown.

I know where Panther Valley is. I lived in Hackettstown for a year and a half. The only thing I liked about that town was Greene's Beans on Rt. 517 (and the owner is a rare liberal).

[Gormy Cuss]

64. Well, that's wrong.

Speaking as a Mainiac, your friend must have gone outdoors in February without a hat (brain frostbite) to think that.

Virginia is the South, though. There are a few pockets that feel more Northern than Southern but as a state it's definitely in Dixie, LostinMidAtlantic.

[LostinVA]

79. I'll tell the US Geological people your opinion

And, thanks for using my name name!

[madinmaryland]

132. Anything north of Poukeepsie, NY is upstate New York.

My wife hates that comment.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

133. Upstate is everything aside from NYC, Long Island & Westchester County.

At least to me.

[wildhorses]

52. welcome to the Lounge

[seemunkee]

2. Yes it is

That's why I like to stay on the MD side of the Potomac.

[smtpgirl]

142. Exactly,

from a MD native that lived in NOVA for 10 years and then moved back to MD

[smtpgirl]

143. Exactly,

from a MD native that lived in NOVA for 10 years and then moved back to MD

[Name removed]

3. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

9. You? No clue? Never!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

56. who was that and what did it say...can you pm me?

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

59. It was gibberish from a TSed troll with like 8 posts. Not worth a PM. nt

[La Lioness Priyanka]

60. i just dont understand how there can be deleted messages

in such innocuous threads

i also couldnt understand how my hot chick thread became a flame fest

so weird!

[LostinVA]

63. The L-Word thread? I know, bizarre

[wildhorses]

4. if you are defining it by the mason-dixon line then yes it is in the

south....so is maryland btw...

[Name removed]

7. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[LostinVA]

19. Not recognized by geologists as a demarcation line

Mid Atlantic!

I grew up in a part of NJ that was also under the MD line.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

24. I wouldn't talk about being from that part of Jersey.

[LostinVA]

29. Don't worry, I agree with you

We got out of there ASAP.

[wildhorses]

25. I realize that for geologists it is NOT a demarcation line

are we defining the south by geology ...How does one define the nebulous south???

[LostinVA]

30. What I said was that

VA is a Mid-Atlantic state, not the South... and that from Charlottesville north, the huge majority isn't even part of "The South." It has a much more NE mentality.

Haruka just hates it when she knows I'm right, so she started this thread... I still love her, though.

[wildhorses]

37. I love me some Hookah, too

shes got grit in her shit



I am just trying to get us all to use the same parameters ....



I have met people from Ohio and upstate NewYork who you would swear are from the hills of Tennesse?!?! I mean philosophically speaking...

[LostinVA]

38. I know! Parts of OH are close to WV

And they sound like total Southerners.

[Hosnon]

131. Waffle House. The WHs per square mile increase exponentially as one

enters the South.

[Midlodemocrat]

5. Why, yes, yes it is.

And by virtue of that fact, we can buy beer and wine 24/7.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

10. Damn you and your alcoholic laws!

[LostinVA]

14. Nope! Mid-Atlantic state

[Midlodemocrat]

18. IT IS TOO IN THE SOUTH!!!

Because I grew up in CT and anything south of NJ is in the South.

[LostinVA]

22. Silly little lass...

You're from the same state as Junior!

[Deep13]

6. Richmond, VA was capital of Confederacy.

That is about as Southy as it gets.

[wildhorses]

8. only after they moved it from Montgomery,Alabama

a very strategic mistake....still argued by historians to this day


please don't flame me for knowing this shit...


I have a history teacher for a brother who knows everything about every war since the first one that was fought with sticks and stones

[LostinVA]

23. I agree -- HUGE mistake for them

[trof]

109. Hell yeah. We could have held out for another year or two.

[Deep13]

127. Yes, a strategic mistake.

Glad the North won and everything, but the Confederacy made some real blunders and their defense of Virginia at all costs was one of them.

[Phillycat]

11. Uh, yeah.

Since when I lived there, they still had a weekly column about the Civil War in the newspaper, I think it definitely qualifies as the South.

[kay1864]

12. Well, sorta (IMHO)

I grew up in NC and GA, so I know "South". I lived in Richmond VA a couple years, and it's definitely in the South. Sickeningly so, in fact.

But Arlington VA and the other DC suburbs didn't feel at all like the South.

So I'd say "the southern part of Virginia", yes, but "Northern Virginia", no.

[LostinVA]

13. No, it is NOT part of the South geographically, Pumpkin'

There is a difference between being in the south and part of the South...

And, I'll say it again re: the later: from Charlottesville north, most of it isn't even of the South.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

15. Geographically smaphically. It's the south.

[LostinVA]

17. Nope, totally wrong on this one, Punkin

http://geology.er.usgs.gov/states/mid_atl.html

[wildhorses]

20. Kentucky is all mixed up, too...

and my cousins from the deep south...say North Carolina is North...of course!!!

I think they have their tongue planted firmly against their cheek when they say this, though

[LostinVA]

16. Some links to blow harkuakins' mind

http://geology.er.usgs.gov/states/mid_atl.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-Atlantic_States

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

21. Virginia is striped. I do not consider it Mid-Atlantic.

"while all or portions of the striped states may or may not be considered part of the Mid-Atlantic."

[LostinVA]

26. I know that makes you feel better...

[kay1864]

130. Agreed. Partly.

From the Wiki article: In recent years, the popular usage has also included the Baltimore-Washington Metropolitan Area with the growing economic integration of that region into the Northeast Corridor.


Yep. That whole "N Va / S Va" thing I mentioned above.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

27. I know several people who went to UVA

Basically, all of them would have issues/words with anyone who tried to say that Virginia was NOT the south.

They all considered Virginia to be a Southern state and were damn proud of it.

[LostinVA]

32. I know lots of people who go/went to UVA

And they all consider Charlottesville definitely NOT of the South.

[LostinVA]

28. Good grief -- why are there deleted messages on this thread?

It's a fun Lounge sniping thread... what did I miss???

[wildhorses]

31. I was wondering the same thing...I think that DEORAI

just got tombstoned...he was also deleted out of one of my threads...I am not sure why though?

[LostinVA]

33. I hate to miss stuff like this!!!

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

36. Yeah, they could have stayed. They weren't mean posts, just insane. nt

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

34. A bizarre ass little troll spouting out random words. nt

[LostinVA]

40. Some people just don't understand Lounge "call out" threads

Why didn't you go apple picking Saturday?

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

46. Priyanka had something.

We're planning on going this weekend and she's bringing friends (and her gf is chaperoning), so the big gay Freepmobile is going to be packed full of dykes.

[LostinVA]

49. It's probably a good idea there'll be a chaperone involved

We didn't go because the road up the mountain was so muddy you needed a 4-wheel drive. So, I have to wait until THIS Saturday for apple cider!

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

54. You poor thing. You have to wait for your cider.

If you owned a Freepmobile like me, you would have made it up that mountain.

[LostinVA]

65. I know -- but I figure I'm Freepy enough because I watch "Lost"

I don't want to TOTALLY sell my soul like you: Freepmobiles, guns, boats, fireworks, John Wayne movies...

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

69. I HATE JOHN WAYNE MOVIES! Don't listen to crackpots in LBN!

Anyway, once my insurance is back down below fucking insane, I will be back driving my Swedish import, which is sooo not freepy.

[LostinVA]

80. Is it a lesbian Volvomobile?

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

82. No, it's a Sapphic Saab.

[wildhorses]

41. bizarre and random...but harmless...

but, then I am not a mod and don't have access to all his posts

[LostinVA]

44. I've just emailed Skinner for a name change

Just to make Haruka happy...

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

47. LostinMid-Atlantic, I sure...

[LostinVA]

50. I think that name fits me perfectly -- don't you?

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

51. If only you weren't LostinSouth.

[LostinVA]

53. You can be haruka3 industrialtoxicwastecenter2000

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

58. More like haruka3 inthemiddleofthefuckingwoods 2000

[LostinVA]

62. Or haruka3 turningherlittlestepbrogay2000

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

67. haruka3 herstepbrocamewithgaycooties 2000

[LostinVA]

81. Or, haruka3 hatesdemocracyandalsosucksatit 2000

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

85. haruka3 lostinvaisatotalliar 2000

[LostinVA]

87. haruka3 lostinvaisatotalgenius 2000

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

93. haruka3 istotallytherealgenius 2000

[LostinVA]

97. haruka3 istotallyamundanelesbo 2000

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

103. haruka3 istotallyapervylesbo 2000

[LostinVA]

105. haruka3 isreallyastraightcheerleader 2000

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

111. haruka3 isreallyalesbianfencer 2000

[LostinVA]

115. haruka3 justthinksshehasabigkatana 2000

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

121. haruka3 heardlostisterribleatdemocracy 2000

[LostinVA]

123. haruka3 wishessheknewhowgoodLostis 2000

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

124. haruka3 losttotallygotmethere2000

[LostinVA]

125. haruka3 isfinallyseeingthelight2000

[Sugar Smack]

147. *sprays coffee*

You didn't!!!! OMG!!!!

[wildhorses]

57. you so totally did NOT!!!

did you really???

surely not....


not lostinmidatlantic....no way


PM me and I will give you a really good name

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

61. Oh I could so say something here, but it'd be so hilariously wrong.

What's your name suggestion for her?

[wildhorses]

73. well....I would not want to go public with it until she approved

I have several suggestions...


lostinvulVA...just to give you laugh



watch this get deleted>>>


please don't tombstone me mods

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

75. I was going to say...

PervinVA

[wildhorses]

78. that works too...

not as subtle but

[LostinVA]

84. I kinda like that one, actually...

[LostinVA]

83. giggle

[bif]

48. Heck yes.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

55. i agree...i think she is lost in the south

and she probably makes baby jesus cry

[LostinVA]

66. I don't even believe in baby Jeebus

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

71. You're so going to hell.

[LostinVA]

76. I know... maybe we can be roommates

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

88. Hell could be fun.

[LostinVA]

90. I love making Smores

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

101. Hell better have vegetarian marshmallows, so I can have s'mores, too.

[LostinVA]

106. WTF are you talking about???

Marshmallows are made out of boiled marshes, which are vegetative-like ecosystems. Like reeds and bogs and stuff. DUH.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

112. ...

[kwassa]

68. Culture vs. geography; which are we talking about?

Much of Virginia is definitely the South. I would call the Eastern shore of Maryland the South. Most of the Virginia part of the DC suburbs, I would not call the South.

Geography really doesn't mean much. Part of Virginia are as Southern as a place can be.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

70. Virginia is the freaking south.

Geographically, at the very least. MAYBE you could file it under Chesapeake. MAYBE.

[LostinVA]

Nope, Mid-Atlantic, according to the USGS and mapmakers

Do you have school off for Genocide Day?

[johnnie]

72. Being in Cleveland,

......anything past Akron is south to me.

[Downtown Hound]

74. I'm in California, so therefore, IT'S IN THE EAST!

[ileus]

77. South of Roanoke = South

North of Roanoke = Yankee.

[LostinVA]

89. BINGO! I was being more charitable and saying Cville

But -- you get my point exactly re: cultural.

[sir_captain]

86. It was a confederate state

with slaves, after all, so in my book, that makes it southern

[LostinVA]

91. I guess that makes Hawaii not a state

[sir_captain]

92. That is what we like to call a bonafide strawman

And it's not as if I hold it against you that people who lived in your state 200 years ago owned slaves

But seriously, seeing as an entire state broke off from virginia in order to not be part of the "south"...

[LostinVA]

102. No, what YOU said is

Being a Confederate state over 100 years again doesn't make Virginia geographically a Southern state -- because it's not. And, anyone who lives here knows that VA is as much -- or -- more -- "Yankee" as it is "Southern."

[sir_captain]

108. Heh

I don't care about geography nor suggested I was making a geographic argument. I was an American history major, so I tend to dwell on that kind of stuff.

But seriously, I think the most important thing to be thankful for is that you don't live in West Virginia, right?

[William Bloode]

116. Maybe.

Fact is i live in N.C., and we are a more liberal minded state than Va. Infact we are known as the most liberal of all the Southern states. So i guess that makes us not Southern, or less Southern?

I see Va, and Nc as South, just not "Deep South".

[LostinVA]

118. Having lived in both places -- including NC for 17 years -- I disagree

And, once again -- you're not understanding my original thesis. Which is factually correct.

[kwassa]

117. but is the Civil War over yet in Virginia?

Lee-Jackson-King Day

wherein Martin Luther King's birthday also commemorated Robert E. Lee, and Stonewall Jackson.

Figure that out!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee-Jackson-King_Day

The incongruous nature of the holiday, which simultaneously celebrated the lives of Confederate generals and a civil rights icon, did not escape the notice of Virginia lawmakers. Legislators protested the holiday by waving pictures of Jesse Jackson, Spike Lee, and Martin Luther King, Jr. around the state capitol. In 2000, Virginia Governor Jim Gilmore proposed splitting Lee-Jackson-King Day into two separate holidays, with Lee-Jackson Day to be celebrated the Friday before what would become Martin Luther King Day. The measure was approved and the two holidays are now celebrated separately.

[LostinVA]

119. That has nothing to do with my original points, which are correct

[kwassa]

120. about Virginia being in the South? Of course it is!

[ileus]

94. A person can't go by Gray vs Blue junk....

Maybe in the 1800's but it's time to get over that.

[LostinVA]

98. That was the point of my post

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

96. If you talk to my mother it's not because it's an island.

[LostinVA]

100. What???

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

107. Actual conversation prior to our Big Dysfunctional Brady Bunch Trip:

My sisters were 17, 17 and 20 at the time. I was the only legal one.

Mom: You girls can all drink in Hawaii.
Katie: No, we can't.
Mom: Yeah, because it's an island.
Katie: It's a state.
Mom: It's an island. Islands don't have drinking ages.
Katie: Yeah, but it's a state. You have to be 21.
Mom: But it's an island.

(it continued on for awhile longer)

My mother was then seriously surprised when we arrived in Hawaii and I was the only daughter who could purchase alcohol.

[LostinVA]

110. That's right! I remember you posting that before

[LostinVA]

95. I can't believe this thread has almost 100 posts

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

99. I know!

I can't believe some people are taking it seriously.

[LostinVA]

104. I know!!!

[ileus]

114. I suppose those of us who live in Va are touchy.

[calico1]

113. Technically, it is part of the Mid Atlantic region:

http://geology.er.usgs.gov/states/mid_atl.html

Although traditionally I tend to think of it as part of the South. Hard to think of New York and Virginia being from the same region!

[rug]

122. Anything west of the Holland Tunnel is the Midwest.

[bigwillq]

126. I consider it to be the south.

But I am from CT so anything south of Jersey is SOUTHERN! lol!

[RedCloud]

128. yes Virginia, Vir Gin EYE AY is in the south.

They have country music in many places. And they hate unions.

[anarch]

129. that depends where you're standing

If you are in New Jersey, yes. If you are in Venezuela, definitely not.

[idgiehkt]

134. this thread is hysterical...

you guys are too funny.

And yes Virginia, you are south of the Mason-Dixon line.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

135. I think she's just experiencing cognitive dissonance over living in the

south.

[Blue_Tires]

136. yes

yes it is

[rug]

137. Whomever Virginia is in is her own business.

[NJ Democrats]

138. Yes

Everything south of DC (although the DC suburbs in VA are Northern) is the South, except for South Fla. I grew up and until 2 months ago lived in NJ. Now I live in NE NC. It is the South.

[Eurobabe]

141. South of Charlottesville, yes...

north of that not really. I lived there for 6 years, should be able to tell, as a Yankee.

[JVS]

144. VA is the MA of the South

[JVS]

145. Fuck yeah! It's where the corn and the cotton and the taters grow!

[MrScorpio]

146. It is

The Mason-Dixon line is in Maryland

We're south of that

Virginia is a southern state