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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:00 AM
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Is Virginia in the south?
I think it is and a certain DUer, who is lost in Virginia, is so lost that she doesn't even recognize that she is in the south.

She is clearly not lost in the mid-Atlantic.
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cleveramerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:05 AM
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1.  I'm from Ma.
so yeah Virginia is the south. Baltimore seems like the south to me.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:53 AM
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35. My friend from Maine considers anything south of NYC "The South"
Seriously.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:55 AM
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39. I think PA is anything west of Hackettsown, NJ.
Basically, I want to give Warren & Sussex counties to PA. And make South Jersey a seperate state from North Jersey, since it really is totally different.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:57 AM
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42. I know lots of people in SJ who totally agree with you on that
And have been talking about seceding ever since I was a toddler.

I grew up thinking anything north of Camden was North Jersey.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:00 AM
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43. New Brunswick is the demarcation line (and I'm being generous)
Central Jersey always claims to be north Jersey and we always have to inform them they're south Jersey.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:03 AM
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45. Hehehehe
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NJ Democrats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:59 PM
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139. Hey!
I used to live in Sussex, its not that different from Hackettsown. (Btw, do you know where Panther Valley is? My grandparents live there)
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 08:03 PM
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140. Yeah, I know. The leader of the NJ KKK lives (or did) in Hackettstown.
I know where Panther Valley is. I lived in Hackettstown for a year and a half. The only thing I liked about that town was Greene's Beans on Rt. 517 (and the owner is a rare liberal).
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:27 AM
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64. Well, that's wrong.
Speaking as a Mainiac, your friend must have gone outdoors in February without a hat (brain frostbite) to think that.

Virginia is the South, though. There are a few pockets that feel more Northern than Southern but as a state it's definitely in Dixie, LostinMidAtlantic.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:42 AM
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79. I'll tell the US Geological people your opinion
And, thanks for using my name name!
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:18 PM
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132. Anything north of Poukeepsie, NY is upstate New York.
My wife hates that comment.


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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 04:21 PM
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133. Upstate is everything aside from NYC, Long Island & Westchester County.
At least to me.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:17 AM
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52. welcome to the Lounge
:hi:
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:09 AM
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2. Yes it is
That's why I like to stay on the MD side of the Potomac.
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smtpgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 09:49 PM
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142. Exactly,
from a MD native that lived in NOVA for 10 years and then moved back to MD
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smtpgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 09:49 PM
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143. Exactly,
from a MD native that lived in NOVA for 10 years and then moved back to MD
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:11 AM
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3. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:26 AM
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9. You? No clue? Never!
:eyes:
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:21 AM
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56. who was that and what did it say...can you pm me?
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:24 AM
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59. It was gibberish from a TSed troll with like 8 posts. Not worth a PM. nt
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:24 AM
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60. i just dont understand how there can be deleted messages
in such innocuous threads

i also couldnt understand how my hot chick thread became a flame fest

so weird!
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:27 AM
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63. The L-Word thread? I know, bizarre
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:11 AM
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4. if you are defining it by the mason-dixon line then yes it is in the
south....so is maryland btw...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:15 AM
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:44 AM
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19. Not recognized by geologists as a demarcation line
Edited on Mon Oct-09-06 10:45 AM by LostinVA
Mid Atlantic!

I grew up in a part of NJ that was also under the MD line.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:46 AM
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24. I wouldn't talk about being from that part of Jersey.
:hide:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:49 AM
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29. Don't worry, I agree with you
We got out of there ASAP.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:47 AM
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25. I realize that for geologists it is NOT a demarcation line
are we defining the south by geology ...How does one define the nebulous south???
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:50 AM
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30. What I said was that
VA is a Mid-Atlantic state, not the South... and that from Charlottesville north, the huge majority isn't even part of "The South." It has a much more NE mentality.

Haruka just hates it when she knows I'm right, so she started this thread... I still love her, though.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:53 AM
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37. I love me some Hookah, too
shes got grit in her shit :headbang:



I am just trying to get us all to use the same parameters .... :shrug:



I have met people from Ohio and upstate NewYork who you would swear are from the hills of Tennesse?!?! I mean philosophically speaking... :eyes:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:55 AM
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38. I know! Parts of OH are close to WV
And they sound like total Southerners.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 03:10 PM
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131. Waffle House. The WHs per square mile increase exponentially as one
enters the South.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:12 AM
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5. Why, yes, yes it is.
And by virtue of that fact, we can buy beer and wine 24/7.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:27 AM
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10. Damn you and your alcoholic laws!
:P
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:39 AM
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14. Nope! Mid-Atlantic state
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:43 AM
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18. IT IS TOO IN THE SOUTH!!!
Because I grew up in CT and anything south of NJ is in the South.

:bounce:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:45 AM
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22. Silly little lass...
You're from the same state as Junior!
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:15 AM
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6. Richmond, VA was capital of Confederacy.
That is about as Southy as it gets.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:24 AM
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8. only after they moved it from Montgomery,Alabama
Edited on Mon Oct-09-06 10:25 AM by wildhorses
a very strategic mistake....still argued by historians to this day :shrug:


please don't flame me for knowing this shit...


I have a history teacher for a brother who knows everything about every war since the first one that was fought with sticks and stones :P
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:46 AM
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23. I agree -- HUGE mistake for them
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:05 PM
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109. Hell yeah. We could have held out for another year or two.
;-)
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 01:06 PM
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127. Yes, a strategic mistake.
Glad the North won and everything, but the Confederacy made some real blunders and their defense of Virginia at all costs was one of them.
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:27 AM
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11. Uh, yeah.
Since when I lived there, they still had a weekly column about the Civil War in the newspaper, I think it definitely qualifies as the South.
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:28 AM
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12. Well, sorta (IMHO)
I grew up in NC and GA, so I know "South". I lived in Richmond VA a couple years, and it's definitely in the South. Sickeningly so, in fact.

But Arlington VA and the other DC suburbs didn't feel at all like the South.

So I'd say "the southern part of Virginia", yes, but "Northern Virginia", no.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:38 AM
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13. No, it is NOT part of the South geographically, Pumpkin'
Edited on Mon Oct-09-06 10:40 AM by LostinVA
There is a difference between being in the south and part of the South...

And, I'll say it again re: the later: from Charlottesville north, most of it isn't even of the South.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:41 AM
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15. Geographically smaphically. It's the south.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:43 AM
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17. Nope, totally wrong on this one, Punkin
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:45 AM
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20. Kentucky is all mixed up, too...
and my cousins from the deep south...say North Carolina is North...of course!!!

I think they have their tongue planted firmly against their cheek when they say this, though :P
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:42 AM
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16. Some links to blow harkuakins' mind
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:45 AM
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21. Virginia is striped. I do not consider it Mid-Atlantic.
"while all or portions of the striped states may or may not be considered part of the Mid-Atlantic."
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:48 AM
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26. I know that makes you feel better...
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 03:04 PM
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130. Agreed. Partly.
From the Wiki article: In recent years, the popular usage has also included the Baltimore-Washington Metropolitan Area with the growing economic integration of that region into the Northeast Corridor.


Yep. That whole "N Va / S Va" thing I mentioned above.
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Tyrone Slothrop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:48 AM
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27. I know several people who went to UVA
Basically, all of them would have issues/words with anyone who tried to say that Virginia was NOT the south.

They all considered Virginia to be a Southern state and were damn proud of it.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:51 AM
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32. I know lots of people who go/went to UVA
And they all consider Charlottesville definitely NOT of the South.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:48 AM
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28. Good grief -- why are there deleted messages on this thread?
It's a fun Lounge sniping thread... what did I miss???
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:51 AM
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31. I was wondering the same thing...I think that DEORAI
just got tombstoned...he was also deleted out of one of my threads...I am not sure why though?
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:52 AM
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33. I hate to miss stuff like this!!!
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:53 AM
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36. Yeah, they could have stayed. They weren't mean posts, just insane. nt
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:52 AM
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34. A bizarre ass little troll spouting out random words. nt
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:56 AM
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40. Some people just don't understand Lounge "call out" threads
Why didn't you go apple picking Saturday?
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:03 AM
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46. Priyanka had something.
We're planning on going this weekend and she's bringing friends (and her gf is chaperoning), so the big gay Freepmobile is going to be packed full of dykes.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:13 AM
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49. It's probably a good idea there'll be a chaperone involved
We didn't go because the road up the mountain was so muddy you needed a 4-wheel drive. So, I have to wait until THIS Saturday for apple cider!
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:18 AM
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54. You poor thing. You have to wait for your cider.
If you owned a Freepmobile like me, you would have made it up that mountain.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:28 AM
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65. I know -- but I figure I'm Freepy enough because I watch "Lost"
I don't want to TOTALLY sell my soul like you: Freepmobiles, guns, boats, fireworks, John Wayne movies...
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:33 AM
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69. I HATE JOHN WAYNE MOVIES! Don't listen to crackpots in LBN!
Anyway, once my insurance is back down below fucking insane, I will be back driving my Swedish import, which is sooo not freepy.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:43 AM
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80. Is it a lesbian Volvomobile?
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:44 AM
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82. No, it's a Sapphic Saab.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 10:56 AM
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41. bizarre and random...but harmless...
but, then I am not a mod and don't have access to all his posts :shrug:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:02 AM
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44. I've just emailed Skinner for a name change
Just to make Haruka happy...
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:05 AM
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47. LostinMid-Atlantic, I sure...
:eyes:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:14 AM
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50. I think that name fits me perfectly -- don't you?
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:15 AM
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51. If only you weren't LostinSouth.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:17 AM
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53. You can be haruka3 industrialtoxicwastecenter2000
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:23 AM
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58. More like haruka3 inthemiddleofthefuckingwoods 2000
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:26 AM
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62. Or haruka3 turningherlittlestepbrogay2000
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:31 AM
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67. haruka3 herstepbrocamewithgaycooties 2000
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:44 AM
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81. Or, haruka3 hatesdemocracyandalsosucksatit 2000
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:45 AM
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85. haruka3 lostinvaisatotalliar 2000
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:47 AM
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87. haruka3 lostinvaisatotalgenius 2000
Edited on Mon Oct-09-06 11:47 AM by LostinVA
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:54 AM
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93. haruka3 istotallytherealgenius 2000
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:57 AM
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97. haruka3 istotallyamundanelesbo 2000
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:00 PM
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103. haruka3 istotallyapervylesbo 2000
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:01 PM
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105. haruka3 isreallyastraightcheerleader 2000
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:07 PM
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111. haruka3 isreallyalesbianfencer 2000
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:24 PM
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115. haruka3 justthinksshehasabigkatana 2000
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:51 PM
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121. haruka3 heardlostisterribleatdemocracy 2000
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:57 PM
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123. haruka3 wishessheknewhowgoodLostis 2000
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 01:00 PM
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124. haruka3 losttotallygotmethere2000
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 01:03 PM
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125. haruka3 isfinallyseeingthelight2000
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 03:47 AM
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147. *sprays coffee*
You didn't!!!! :spray: OMG!!!!
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:22 AM
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57. you so totally did NOT!!!
did you really???

surely not....


not lostinmidatlantic....no way


PM me and I will give you a really good name :P
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:26 AM
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61. Oh I could so say something here, but it'd be so hilariously wrong.
What's your name suggestion for her?
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:37 AM
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73. well....I would not want to go public with it until she approved
I have several suggestions...


lostinvulVA...just to give you laugh



watch this get deleted>>>


please don't tombstone me mods
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:39 AM
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75. I was going to say...
PervinVA
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:42 AM
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78. that works too...
not as subtle but :rofl:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:44 AM
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84. I kinda like that one, actually...
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:44 AM
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83. giggle
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:10 AM
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48. Heck yes.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:21 AM
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55. i agree...i think she is lost in the south
and she probably makes baby jesus cry
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:30 AM
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66. I don't even believe in baby Jeebus
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:34 AM
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71. You're so going to hell.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:41 AM
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76. I know... maybe we can be roommates
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:48 AM
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88. Hell could be fun.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:49 AM
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90. I love making Smores
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:59 AM
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101. Hell better have vegetarian marshmallows, so I can have s'mores, too.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:02 PM
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106. WTF are you talking about???
Marshmallows are made out of boiled marshes, which are vegetative-like ecosystems. Like reeds and bogs and stuff. DUH.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:09 PM
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112. ...
:eyes:
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:33 AM
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68. Culture vs. geography; which are we talking about?
Much of Virginia is definitely the South. I would call the Eastern shore of Maryland the South. Most of the Virginia part of the DC suburbs, I would not call the South.

Geography really doesn't mean much. Part of Virginia are as Southern as a place can be.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:33 AM
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70. Virginia is the freaking south.
Geographically, at the very least. MAYBE you could file it under Chesapeake. MAYBE.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:46 AM
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Nope, Mid-Atlantic, according to the USGS and mapmakers
Do you have school off for Genocide Day?
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:35 AM
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72. Being in Cleveland,
......anything past Akron is south to me.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:38 AM
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74. I'm in California, so therefore, IT'S IN THE EAST!
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:42 AM
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77. South of Roanoke = South
North of Roanoke = Yankee.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:48 AM
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89. BINGO! I was being more charitable and saying Cville
But -- you get my point exactly re: cultural.
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:46 AM
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86. It was a confederate state
with slaves, after all, so in my book, that makes it southern

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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:50 AM
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91. I guess that makes Hawaii not a state
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:54 AM
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92. That is what we like to call a bonafide strawman
And it's not as if I hold it against you that people who lived in your state 200 years ago owned slaves

But seriously, seeing as an entire state broke off from virginia in order to not be part of the "south"...
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:00 PM
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102. No, what YOU said is
Being a Confederate state over 100 years again doesn't make Virginia geographically a Southern state -- because it's not. And, anyone who lives here knows that VA is as much -- or -- more -- "Yankee" as it is "Southern."
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:05 PM
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108. Heh
I don't care about geography nor suggested I was making a geographic argument. I was an American history major, so I tend to dwell on that kind of stuff.

But seriously, I think the most important thing to be thankful for is that you don't live in West Virginia, right?
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William Bloode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:28 PM
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116. Maybe.
Fact is i live in N.C., and we are a more liberal minded state than Va. Infact we are known as the most liberal of all the Southern states. So i guess that makes us not Southern, or less Southern?

I see Va, and Nc as South, just not "Deep South".
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:33 PM
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118. Having lived in both places -- including NC for 17 years -- I disagree
And, once again -- you're not understanding my original thesis. Which is factually correct.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:32 PM
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117. but is the Civil War over yet in Virginia?
Lee-Jackson-King Day

wherein Martin Luther King's birthday also commemorated Robert E. Lee, and Stonewall Jackson.

Figure that out!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee-Jackson-King_Day

The incongruous nature of the holiday, which simultaneously celebrated the lives of Confederate generals and a civil rights icon, did not escape the notice of Virginia lawmakers. Legislators protested the holiday by waving pictures of Jesse Jackson, Spike Lee, and Martin Luther King, Jr. around the state capitol. In 2000, Virginia Governor Jim Gilmore proposed splitting Lee-Jackson-King Day into two separate holidays, with Lee-Jackson Day to be celebrated the Friday before what would become Martin Luther King Day. The measure was approved and the two holidays are now celebrated separately.

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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:34 PM
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119. That has nothing to do with my original points, which are correct
Edited on Mon Oct-09-06 12:34 PM by LostinVA
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:44 PM
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120. about Virginia being in the South? Of course it is!
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:56 AM
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94. A person can't go by Gray vs Blue junk....
Maybe in the 1800's but it's time to get over that.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:57 AM
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98. That was the point of my post
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:56 AM
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96. If you talk to my mother it's not because it's an island.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:58 AM
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100. What???
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:05 PM
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107. Actual conversation prior to our Big Dysfunctional Brady Bunch Trip:
My sisters were 17, 17 and 20 at the time. I was the only legal one.

Mom: You girls can all drink in Hawaii.
Katie: No, we can't.
Mom: Yeah, because it's an island.
Katie: It's a state.
Mom: It's an island. Islands don't have drinking ages.
Katie: Yeah, but it's a state. You have to be 21.
Mom: But it's an island.

(it continued on for awhile longer)

My mother was then seriously surprised when we arrived in Hawaii and I was the only daughter who could purchase alcohol.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:06 PM
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110. That's right! I remember you posting that before
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:56 AM
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95. I can't believe this thread has almost 100 posts
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 11:58 AM
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99. I know!
I can't believe some people are taking it seriously.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:00 PM
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104. I know!!!
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:10 PM
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114. I suppose those of us who live in Va are touchy.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:10 PM
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113. Technically, it is part of the Mid Atlantic region:
http://geology.er.usgs.gov/states/mid_atl.html

Although traditionally I tend to think of it as part of the South. Hard to think of New York and Virginia being from the same region!
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 12:56 PM
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122. Anything west of the Holland Tunnel is the Midwest.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 01:04 PM
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126. I consider it to be the south.
But I am from CT so anything south of Jersey is SOUTHERN! lol!

:hi:
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 02:34 PM
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128. yes Virginia, Vir Gin EYE AY is in the south.
They have country music in many places. And they hate unions.
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 02:46 PM
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129. that depends where you're standing
If you are in New Jersey, yes. If you are in Venezuela, definitely not.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 05:34 PM
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134. this thread is hysterical...
you guys are too funny.

And yes Virginia, you are south of the Mason-Dixon line.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 05:37 PM
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135. I think she's just experiencing cognitive dissonance over living in the
south.

:rofl:
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 05:40 PM
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136. yes
yes it is
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 05:47 PM
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137. Whomever Virginia is in is her own business.
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NJ Democrats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 07:56 PM
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138. Yes
Everything south of DC (although the DC suburbs in VA are Northern) is the South, except for South Fla. I grew up and until 2 months ago lived in NJ. Now I live in NE NC. It is the South.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 08:20 PM
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141. South of Charlottesville, yes...
north of that not really. I lived there for 6 years, should be able to tell, as a Yankee.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 01:20 AM
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144. VA is the MA of the South
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 01:23 AM
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145. Fuck yeah! It's where the corn and the cotton and the taters grow!
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 01:27 AM
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146. It is
The Mason-Dixon line is in Maryland

We're south of that

Virginia is a southern state
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