Du Lesbians and Bi Women..Who is Your L-Word Crush??

[La Lioness Priyanka]

Poll question: Du Lesbians and Bi Women..Who is Your L-Word Crush??

Shane


Bette Porter


Alice


Carmen


Dana


Marina

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

1. SHANE!!!

Alice is really cute though.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

3. me too...i think you could pull off shane pretty easily

i wish i could...but i think carmen's look is better suited to me

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

4. Yeah, I could.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

5. this makes me very jealous of you....

i would love to be able to pull that one off

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

8. Off-topic, do you still want to go apple picking and when?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

10. i do still want to go...lisa may want to come if that ok with you

heather might too...

how is next sat/sun?

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

13. They're both welcome.

Who's heather?

Next Sat/Sun is good. We can all pile into my Big Gay Jeep (with the girls kick ass sticker).

[La Lioness Priyanka]

14. heather is the other girl who came to the du thing with me

are you bringing friends?

how many dykes can your car accomodate?

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

15. My car can accomodate 5 dykes including me.

Once I actually had 10 queers in it, but I won't drive on the highway like that. None of my friends around here want to go.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

16. on another note...i was trying to im you on myspace

yes so lets talk sometime early next week and get to it, i'll see if marie wants to come apple picking...

that would make a 5th dyke

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

17. Okay, that will fill up the Big Gay Freepmobile.

And my AIM screenname is in my profile, if you want to IM me that way. Myspace IMing never works for me.

[jonnyblitz]

6. I'd pick Shane if I were a lesbian...

her look is hot...

[La Lioness Priyanka]

9. i agree....

she is smoking....

[LostinVA]

35. I want to be friends with Alice

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

43. and f*ck Shane.

That's how I feel at least.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

2. for me its shane....followed by marina

[idgiehkt]

7. can I have two?

I want Shane and Bette both. Jennifer Beals is just so wispy or something...I'd like to crawl all over her. I voted for her but Shane...mmmmm. It's tough to decide. Maybe I could just watch the two of them...

[cwydro]

11. damn

I need to catch that show sometime...:shrug:

[BarenakedLady]

12. Well I'm pretty straight

But I love Shane. She is hot!

[Cygnusx2112]

18. Dana or Marina...

If I was... ya know...

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

19. queer?

:shrug:

[Cygnusx2112]

20. I would have gone with Lesbian.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

21. i think he means deviant like us ?

hey deviant buddy...hows the deviance going these days?

[Cygnusx2112]

22. LOL... ... WOW.

I believe I "trailed off whistfully".

You couldn't have misread me more wrong if you tried. :)

[La Lioness Priyanka]

24. well as a man posting on a thread for lesbian and bi women

its very odd that you cant even bring yourself to say lesbian...

makes one wonder

[Cygnusx2112]

28. Did I not say the word Lesbian because I felt uncomfortable

with your lifestyle or because I was using using my writing to gain an affect.

Dana or Mirana, if ... ya know... (sigh...If I was a girl :) ).

Really, relax. You're completely off base.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

29. Off-base or not. That's how your response really came off as.

Oh and it's a life, not a "Lifestyle."

[La Lioness Priyanka]

30. dude we can relax when we get equal rights

and when stupid homophobic jerks dont try to run us down on streets...

and when you stop calling it a fucking lifestyle...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=5689108

[Cygnusx2112]

31. Unless I was driving...what does someone trying

to run you off the street have to do with me? I'm all for your equal rights. I hope you're not calling ME homophobic, are you?

Were you just gunning for a fight? That's gotta be it.


This is hillarious. Let me get this straight. My *not* saying the word Lesbian has you up in arms?

Because *you* added inflection, or unattributed meaning to my ... ellipses, you're upset?

Hmmm...

Peace :hi:

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

32. It shows the sort of shit gay people deal with daily.

Obviously, you don't understand that.

And I think you should admit that you were wrong in your word choice of "lifestyle."

Seriously, if a man comes into a lesbian's thread and makes a comment like you did, then they should be prepared for the fallout. Your "wistfulness" came off as homophobic and I think a lot of straight men around here would agree with us on that.

[Cygnusx2112]

36. 1. Life vs. lifestyle were completely interchangable to me.

I had no idea there was a difference in their usage. Thanks for pointing out the difference and now I know the difference, but please don't assume I knew the difference and please have the grace to say "no problem".

If I do it again on purpose, then you might have an issue.

2. makes a comment like you did - I made a NON-COMMENT. You attributed whatever meaning you wanted to. I told you both the way I meant the comment, yet you'd prefer not to believe me.

Again. have the grace to give me the benefit of the doubt.

3. Find someone on this board to back up this statement, and I think a lot of straight men around here would agree with us on that. or someone besides you and the OP and who feel the way you do, where you're coming from and I'll apologize. Until then, you're being sensitive to something I never intended.


If someone says to me,

Italians are ______________ ...



I guess I could fill it in with WOPS and be offended or good cooks and be on my merry way.


<edited to add> where you're coming from and *I'll* apologize - whoops.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

37. your argument lacks merit

Yes there was a time that Italians were discriminated against and thought of as "lesser"" than the majority. But they were incorporated under the umbrella of "white" and majority a long time ago.

There is still active discrimination against gays/lesbian....so when you leave a thought so unfinished...and so purposefully unfinished ...its not such a stretch to think that you are being condescending..

[Cygnusx2112]

38. Is it such a stretch to think I'm not being condescending?

I mean, I just started posting here...why jump to that conclusion instead of giving me the benefit of the doubt?

Why accuse me right off the bat? And when I gave my explanation, that wasn't good enough?

Do you have any other postings by me that might back up your conclusion? No.

Immediately I'm guilty. So are you being prejudiced?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

39. prejudiced against what exactly?

the way you word your sentences?

[Cygnusx2112]

40. Prejudiced means pre judging.

Are you pre judging me, before you have all the facts?

Look, ask someone else, like I did in your other thread...we're certainly not going to come to an agreement.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

41. actually prejudiced doesnt really mean prejudging

1. an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.
2. any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable.
3. unreasonable feelings, opinions, or attitudes, esp. of a hostile nature, regarding a racial, religious, or national group.

[Karenca]

49. 'An unfavorable opinion of feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge"

transalates to ; ''Prejudging",


<Prejudice is, as the name implies, the process of "pre-judging" something.>http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:JCutC9YXj1oJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejudice+prejudice&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2

[Guava Jelly]

42. Can i just say that comming into a thread that was meant for lesbian and

Bi duers.
And starting an argument is just ignorant.
Instead of getting all up in arms Apologize and leave the thread!
Now i checked this thread out And although I find many of the l word ladies fucking hot as hell.
I was not invited to the poll being straight so i didn't answer.
You must also take into account that Gays are probably the most descriminated people in america these days.
If they are defensive THEY HAVE A RIGHT!!!!!
Just say you are sorry make nice and leave the thread

[datasuspect]

44. nah dude

this is a public forum.

way off base. i like everyone here, but you have to draw the line somewhere. i could give two shits how many posts the guy has, if people don't want the general public to post in their thread, they shouldn't post something they don't want the public to post in/something the public can see.

i can understand about defensiveness, but a line gets drawn when it becomes irrational. and the response the guy received is irrational.

how in the name of anything that makes sense does ANYONE make the jump from someone saying, "if i was a lesbian" to assuming the person who made that statement is calling lesbians "deviant."

wrong.

[Guava Jelly]

51. I hear your point on this issue. All i am saying is the op stated that

it was meant for gay and bi women.
Now I have stepped on my dick before in threads.But when i do i try to let it go make amends and leave.
I just think the guy stepped on his dick and just kept stomping.
Hell i fell into a vegan thread a few days back with a few duers i highly respect. as soon as i realized what i did i apologized and left..It aint rocket science.

[datasuspect]

54. i just want you to know right off the bat

that i really admire you and your sensibility. and i am no way trying to criticize you.

but you can't have "exclusionary" threads in a public forum. you can write an exclusionary thread, but people can't expect the general public not to post in it, if they are following the DU guidelines.

if the guy had been a jerk (and judging from his posts here today in the lounge, which were friendly, funny, and entertaining, he wasn't seeking to offend people) which i don't think he was being, i might not have piped in as vociferously.

but i would expect anyone to respond in like fashion when they are being labeled as "homophobic" and having baseless assumptions thrown at them.

as don cornelius would say, "peace and soul."

[I Have A Dream]

53. I've got to agree with you, datasuspect. I just don't get it. I'm...

totallly for complete rights for all people and I could see myself easily having done/said the same thing that this poor guy did/said. If I had been attacked for it, I'd have been totally flabbergasted.

There was no reason for this attack. It was extremely hostile and uncalled for. I was actually embarrassed that it happened to a new member of DU.

[datasuspect]

55. baseless attack

not everyone with a low post count is a freeper/unworthy of respect.

[Guava Jelly]

57. Misunderstandings happen

The guy probably didn't mean anything by it.
And I hope everything gets ironed out.
I think that tensions are pretty high right now.
Hell i myself have been ripped apart and hated/ganged up on by duers..It sucks!!
I think the saddest thing about being democrats is that we so often eat our own.
But also you have to consider the feelings of the sexually oppressed.
I can't even fathom being in love with someone that my country told me i am not supposed to love or even marry.
It is a sad rough deal all around.

[LostinVA]

58. I wouldn't have outwardly reacted like haruka and lionness

But internally, I would have been as pissed as they were. Do you have any idea how often lesbians have to put up with gigglegigglenudgenudhewinkwink stuff from guys? Not stuff that is clearly joking among friends, but really insidious stuff that's passed off as joking, but isn;t... that's leering, sexual, whatever. I have no idea if the poster meant it that way, but it is how I also read it. When you're gay and female, you have a double whammy were stuff like this is concerned.

What the poster said frigging pissed me off. I'm 41, and am so tired of hearing this crap, and then having people say not to get "offended," to have a sense of humor. NO ONE has a right to tell people what should or shouldn't offend them. The poster was asked more than once to leave it alone or to explain himself, and he choose to engage in argument and some not-so subtle "so whats."

As GOP said -- there's a reason while they were defensive. The poster came onto to a thread talking about specific lesbian stuff, and then acted EXACTLY like so many have before.

The two posters accused of an attack are not ones that get pissed at joking stuff guys on DU say... even playful sexual and flirting stuff.

There was a reason for the attack, even if you can't see it. If anything, the poster's remarks could be construed as hostile and even bullying by haruka and lionness. They were filtering it from THEIR experiences and POV, from very similar things and words and actions that have been less than great for them and queer friends. I'm not embarrassed, because hopefully the poster learned a lesson about how certain things aren't funny to certain "demographics." And, what difference does it make if he's new???

I am sick and tired of "getting over it," and "excusing" people because they don't apparently no better.

Oh, and I'm sooo Glad you're "totally for complete rights for all people." Geez... do you have any idea how condescending that sounds.

ON EDIT: the term "lifestyle" is infuriating, and that is one major thing the girls reacted to. It's demeaning, arrogant,a nd is a total RW buzzword. We have a fucking LIFE, not a lifestyle. Being Goth is a lifestyle... being gay is being human.

[datasuspect]

62. yes complete rights for all people

how on god's green earth this can be construed as condescending is beyond me . . . calling it condescending is beyond the pale if you get right down to it.

and TOO BAD. you don't get private/exclusionary/discriminatory threads in a public forum. if you post anything here, ANYONE can respond to it. TOO BAD.

don't like it, make a capital investment, get your own discussion and forum and you can decide who gets to post where.

we all have to abide by the TOS/code of conduct/what have you.

is there a smiley for "take a chill pill" or "save the drama?"

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

66. Thank you.

:hug:

[LostinVA]

72. You're welcome, Punkin'

I read this exchange right before "Survivor," ranted about it during every commercial.

UGH.

And, it was a fun thread, too!!!

(I have lots of people on ignore -- I can't see the other replies!!!)

[I Have A Dream]

70. My mentioning my being "totally for complete rights for everyone"....

was to make it extremely clear that I'm not part of the "enemy". If you take that as condescending, that's not my problem. What would you have liked me to say to make my support for the equality of all humanity clear?

If there's some kind of code that everyone's supposed to know, sorry -- I missed that somewhere. I'm not going to walk on eggshells for anyone -- I also have the right to my voice. All people (homosexual, heterosexual, bisexual, transgendered) are equal people to me, and I'm going to call foul when I see it regardless of who does it. I saw foul here, and I believe it even more after this post.

[LostinVA]

45. kisses and hugs

[Guava Jelly]

52. thank you

:)

[LostinVA]

64. You can be an honorary DU lesbian, okay?

But remember: you can't touch!

[Guava Jelly]

69. that is probably the nicest thing ever offered to me

And Touching is never required
:) thank you!

[LostinVA]

71. You're welcome

I know you're one of the good guys... even if you're a perv. Actually, I am, too... so that's okay!

:loveya:

[Guava Jelly]

73. Hey i am human just like you.

And i truly feel honored to be considered as "one of the good guys"
And feel free to call me a friend as i will you :)

[LostinVA]

77. hugs!!!

Trust me, we chickies know who the good guys are on DU...

[I Have A Dream]

56. Welcome to DU, Cygnusx2112.

I believe what you are saying. I'm sorry that this is happening to you.

:hug:

[LostinVA]

63. There's me, and the GOP -- where's the apology?

And, you should know better than to use lifestyle. You speak English, you can write and think and feel, right? Tell em how we should know you meant it "innocently"? Hmmmm? When we hear that term throw at us like ACID from the highest elected position in the nation? Do not even try to explain this away, it can't be done. YOu should have just apologized for the misunderstanding and left it alone. BUt you kept posting and posting and posting stuff. I am sick of this being okay. YOU screwed up, not the OP or Lionness... YOU.

Where's the promised apology???

Yeah, I thought so.

Thank Jeebus for "Ignore."

[datasuspect]

67. never mind

this is high school shit.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

33. firstly your not being able to say lesbian in that context sounds weird

its clearly not just me who thought so...

secondly, the rest of my irritation was because you asked me to "relax"....which is both dismissive and condescending

thirdly, who the hell says lifestyle anymore?

[LostinVA]

65. I know who still says "lifestyle"...

[Name removed]

61. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[datasuspect]

68. edit

never mind, this is high school shit.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

23. Well, the Yankees just lost against the Tigers.

I'm planning on stopping by the health food store for some groceries and the Blockbuster, so I can rent "Lost" season 1. I'll try to do something deviant inbetween. I often find some deviants at the health food store. Oh and I need to stop by tattoo zone to pick up a nose stud. Deviants often hang out there.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

25. i got a more deviant haircut...its a bit shorter and has bright red

stripe in it..

i am also thinking of getting another tattoo

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

26. Sounds cool. I'm thinking about getting a deviant fauxhawk.

My hair's too long for me right now. Tattoos are deviously addictive. I want two more.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

27. lisa saw me after my new haircut and said that it almost

feels like she has a new gf...(i also had new clothes etc)...

it was kind funny....

we were uplate practising deviance and overslept....

[LostinVA]

34. Dana -- funny, but cute and sexy

[wildhorses]

46. I am a straight chick but, I wished I looked like Marina so I

voted for her. I have only seen the show a couple of times and I don't think her character was on much...

that Carmen chick looks like Penelope Cruz to me:shrug:

[Sugar Smack]

47. WHERE TF is Pam Grier? I thought she was on that show!

Where TF is she? I LOVE her! Oh, this world's going to hell in a handbasket. :cry:

[LostinVA]

60. Thank gods that little annoyance Jenny isn't on there

And yeah, Foxy Brown is COOOOOOOOL!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

78. i refuse to put her on. REFUSE

[L A Woman]

48. the one they KILLED OFF

argh! don't get me started on that!!!!!

[Sugar Smack]

50. Are you answering my post? In that case,

DAMMIT! :cry: :grouphug:

[smtpgirl]

59. Shane is awesome!!!

so cool and aloof!!!

[Jamastiene]

74. Who is this Shane character?

Jama sees the picture of Shane, starts panting like a dog and passes out. *thud*

Hummula baby. Me likey.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

75. Kate Moennig.

[Jamastiene]

76. Oh my goodness. What a beauty.

My heart is pounding. I must bookmark this thread for later enjoyment. Wow, what a looker. :loveya: