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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:18 PM
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How do you picture an afterlife?
Maybe this is a strange question but I was thinking about it the other day. If you believe in an afterlife, one where we're reunited with our loved ones, how do you think we see them?

Are they the same age as they were when they died only without the illness or injury that caused their death?

Are they the way we may want to see them? Or the way they want to be seen?

Or do we "see" them at all? Are we corporeal beings or simply energy, on a whole different plane? Or something else entirely? Or is it like a Monty Python sketch, with a floor show and Tony Bennett?

I don't really believe in an afterlife. Sometimes I really wish I did. I have a lot of friends and family who I'd like to see again but, oddly, more than anyone else, I want to see my dog, Dixie. And I want to see her as she was when she was about 4, in the prime of life, happy and healthy and smiling.



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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:19 PM
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1. i was clinically dead for 3 or so minutes
i don't recall there being anything after being alive.

i do recall coming to in the hospital.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:21 PM
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2. No dogs, huh?
Bummer. But maybe 3 minutes isn't enough time for them to quit chasing dead rabbits and come to greet you.

Glad it was only 3 minutes. ;)
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:22 PM
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3. i wouldn't have known unless they told me
and revived me.
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:26 PM
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4. Reunion with an eternal universal consciousness. (a.k.a the Tao)
the most easily understandable expression of which may be Emerson's concept of the collective soul.

It's not perfect (conceptually, it's not very Taoist at all) but it's easy to understand for the average person not familiar with Taoism.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:27 PM
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5. Yeah, but do I see my dog there?
I don't care about a universal consciousness - I just want to hug my puppy.
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:42 PM
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8. Certainly, in a manner of speaking,
although you don't really "see" anything. Rather, you become part of the whole of consciousness of everything that has ever lived or existed. Rather than "see", you get to feel its life experience eternally, as well as those of every life and everything ever, know everything ever known, experience everything ever experienced, etc. as your life energy mingles with every other things life energy ever as it returns to the source.

It doesn't really sound appealing when put this way, but that's because it's hard to explain and I'm not doing a good job.

So, in short, you don't really get to see your puppy, you get to experience the totality of your puppy's existence, along with that of everything else.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:31 PM
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6. Have you seen the movie "What Dreams May Come"?
Edited on Mon Aug-14-06 06:31 PM by YellowRubberDuckie
I like to think the afterlife is like that. A beautiful place that we make for ourselves. I love that idea. And it just seems right, ya know? People that you love in different forms making you comfortable and easing you into the transition. It was just a beautiful movie. If you haven't seen it, you really really should. But watch it with a box of tissues. Oh, and my dogs are there. Especially Hank.
Duckie
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:33 PM
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7. Oh, yes, I've seen that one
Major blubberfest but a great movie. Yeah, I like to think of it like that although I really don't. It's more of a wish.
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:45 PM
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9. I believe it just goes dark and your just gone.
I believe we are no more important than any life form that dies..
I think humans are arrogant creatures especially to think that we are so far above all other forms that death is just a doorway to a bonus existence.
But thats just me
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:49 PM
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10. Sounds like me
I really don't believe there's anything after. As I said in the OP, I'd LIKE to, mainly because I'd really like to see my Dixie again. Thinking of going through forever without ever seeing her again is a bummer. But I don't really believe in any of it. Like you, I believe it just ends. Which isn't bad. But I do get to wondering about how people perceive the things they believe in. Like how they think they'll see those who've gone before.

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CrushTheDLC Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:58 PM
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11. I just have one request of the Afterlife
I don't even need a huge mansion in Heaven, just a decent house with a balcony that overlooks Hell, so I can watch the entire Bush Crime Family in torment.

Of course if I *DO* get the huge mansion, with an even bigger balcony, you're all invited to share the view.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 07:04 PM
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12. as was the case with datasuspect above, i coded out in the midst...
of a particularly violent car accident that majorly fucked me up (not my fault), and woke up in the hospital; though i believe in an afterlife, of some kind, the images & stories of it are likely keyed upon images imprinted into our brains here in this one which accounts for many of the images in the recounts below...either way, here goes...

. "The world that I had entered was now as solid and real as the world that I had left behind, but the light was still visible. It was a living light. It had vitality and feeling. It was focused in every living thing just as the sun can be focused to a point with a magnifying glass. There were colors too, not only the colors that I had known on earth but many octaves of color. Surrounding all my friends and every other living thing was color, arranged in intricate geometrical patterns, each pattern unique, every pattern original. Permeating the colors and patterns was sound, countless octaves of sound. It was as though the colors could be heard. It reminded me of bagpipes. Filling the entire region were the droning sounds. Octave upon octave of invigorating, vitalizing sound. It was very subtle, practically imperceptible but immense, it seemed to reach to infinity. Superimposed on this vast life-giving hum, was the melody, which was created by the individual sound of every living thing. Light and sound, color and geometrical patterns were all combined into a totality of harmonic perfection."

. "I found myself in a place of such beauty and peace. It was timeless and spaceless. I was aware of delicate and shifting hues of colors with their accompanying rainbows of 'sound,' though there was no noise in this sound. It might have felt like wind and bells, were it earthly. I 'hung' there - floating. Then I became aware of other loving, caring beings hovering near me. Their presence was so welcoming and nurturing. They appeared 'formless' in the way I was accustomed by now to seeing things. I don't know how to describe them. I was aware of some bearded male figures in white robes in a semicircle around me. The atmosphere became blended as though made of translucent clouds. I watched as these clouds and their delicate shifting colors moved through and around us."

. "Gradually the earth scene faded away, and through it loomed a bright, new, beautiful world - beautiful beyond imagination! I stood in a glory that could only be Heaven. In the background were two beautiful, round-topped mountains, similar to Fujiyama in Japan. The tops were snowcapped, and the slopes were adorned with foliage of indescribable beauty. The mountains appeared to be about 15 miles away, yet I could see individual flowers growing on their slopes. I estimated my vision to be about one hundred times better than on earth. To the left was a shimmering lake containing a different kind of water - clear, golden, radiant and alluring. It seemed to be alive. The whole landscape was carpeted with grass so vivid, clear and green, that it defies description. To the right was a grove of large, luxuriant trees, composed of the same clear material that seemed to make up everything. I saw twenty people beyond the first trees, playing a singing-dancing game, something like 'Skip-to-My-Lou.' They were having a hilarious time holding hands and dancing in a circle - fast and lively. As soon as they saw me, four of the players left the game and joyfully skipped over to greet me. As they approached, I estimated their ages to be: one, 30; two, 20; and one, 12. Their bodies seemed almost weightless, and the grace and beauty of their easy movements was fascinating to watch. Both sexes had long, luxuriant hair entwined with flowers, which hung down in glossy masses to their waists. Their only clothing was a gossamer loin cloth with a loop over one shoulder and a broad ribbon streaming out behind in graceful curves and curlicues. Their magnificence not only thrilled me, but filled me with awe. The oldest, largest and strongest-looking man announced pleasantly, 'You are in the land of the dead. We lived on earth, just like you, 'til we came here.' He invited me to look at my arm. I looked, and it was translucent; that is, I could dimly see through it."

. "Suddenly I was aware of being in the most beautiful garden I've ever seen. I felt whole and loved. My sense of well-being was complete. I heard celestial music clearly and saw vivid colored flowers, like nothing seen on earth, gorgeous greenery and trees."

. "I can remember a beautiful place with beautiful colors, beautiful music..."


i am down with that "celestial music" gig, i can hang with that...and the garden thing too, and the vivid colors :thumbsup: B-)
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