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Gringo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 09:17 AM
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Whatever happened to the damn Freedumb Fries?!?!?
During the whole pre-war hype, I never saw freedom fries anywhere here in Miami. Did they serve the stupid things, or any other stupidly renamed thing where you are? Are they still doing so now?

Are we still supposed to hate the French (but not the Germans) for trying to block the little idiot's wargasm?
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 09:45 AM
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1. just hope
that french restaurants keep up moron muffins
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dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 10:07 AM
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2. There was a street vendor selling "freedom fries" at ...
a small-town 4th of July festival I recently attended.
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 10:19 AM
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3. Maybe they got tired of me & hubby
asking them for Police State Fries when we were offered Freedumb Fries. :shrug:
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chadm Donating Member (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 11:15 AM
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4. I don't know...
Edited on Wed Jul-30-03 11:16 AM by chadm
but a co-worker of mine freaked out when we invited him to lunch at a French restaurant. It didn't click for us why (we just thought he was afraid of the food).

When we realized what he was saying I said, "Oh, I thought that would go away when everyone learned that the French were right."

You can imagine the gasps from every direction...but just continued, "Well, their position was that Iraq didn't have WMD and were not a threat to the world, right? Were they not right."

"Well...their intentions aren't pure either...."

"I didn't say they were, I said their position was right."

End of discussion.

Edit: by the way, the food was very good.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 11:22 AM
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5. Go get a Geno's cheesesteak in Philly...
...they still serve freedom fries there. :eyes: Or, at least they did in mid-June when me and some other evilDUers went. :-)
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 11:23 AM
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6. I'm still embarassed I took you guys there
I mean, if I had known we would have went to Pat Steaks
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 03:14 PM
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8. Ahhh...don't sweat it...
...we had a great time, except for the bird shitting on my t-shirt. The sammiches were good at least.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 03:20 PM
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10. I told you we were going to go for the real Philly Cheesesteaks
But next Philly trip - we'll do Pat's. Hopefully they are caving into the sheep with 'Freedumb Fries"
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 03:43 PM
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13. Okie doke! You're on!
I applied for a job up there this week. Right up my alley! :-)
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 03:12 PM
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7. I recently ate at the restaurant of the Stanley Hotel
That's a beautiful, well-known landmark grand old hotel in Estes Park, Colo. (It apparently inspired Stephen King to write "The Shining.") Anyway, they had "freedom fries" on the menu. I called the management of the hotel after that and left a message to protest their stupid policy. I was very polite, and pointed out that it is childish, appeals to the baser instincts of Americans, could be offensive to international visitors...and, anyway, the French were right. It probably didn't do any good, but I felt better after I called.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 03:17 PM
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9. LOL
Edited on Wed Jul-30-03 03:19 PM by Loonman
I'm disappointed, I was waiting and waiting to get asked if I want "freedom Fries with that" so I could say, "No, about how about I put my freedom foot in your freedom ass?".

Actually, Boston is the only place where legit freedom fries could be sold, because of the http://www.thefreedomtrail.org/
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Spoonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 03:33 PM
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11. Although I agree it was childish,
and the war was about oil, don't side up with the French simply because they opposed it. Ask yourself why they opposed it, you will eventually discover it was about oil.
I have worked extensivly in the middle east, and I assure you France did not oppose war because it was wrong. They wanted to keep their monopoly of oil services contracts. Several French based companies had service agreement contracts with Iraq schedualed to begin after the sanctions were lifted.
I have several good friends that work for ATOFINA (Elf, Fina, Total) and CGG, and this is where I got my info. They all are on the skids now that we're there.
Every concern on both sides was about oil.
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 03:41 PM
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12. read for yourself
Edited on Wed Jul-30-03 03:48 PM by Kellanved
The French Oil Coop(s) (is) are just bad as the American, but that hardly changes anything.

You can lok up, who bought Iraqi Oil; France isn't high on the list (Russia is) and most of it went into the US.
http://www.un.org/Depts/oip/background/latest/wu981207.html

Besides: Evil French; they didn't want to go to war because of the Oil. Sounds stupid?
Thought so.


Edit: the Document I was looking for:
http://www.france.diplomatie.fr/actu/article.gb.asp?ART=34810
--snip
The French/Iraqi trade figures are insignificant: In 2001, Iraq ranked as the 53rd client and 39th supplier of France (0.2% of our exports, and 0.3% of our imports).
In comparison, in 2001, the USA sold goods to Iraq representing 33% of Iraq's total imports.
Oil?
In 2001, Iraq's oil export to the USA represented 40.9% of their total oil exports (up to 70% the previous years).
In 2001, Iraq's oil export to France represented 8.2% of their total oil exports
Obviously, France is NOT guided by her economic interests.
--snap
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Gringo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 05:37 PM
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15. Ulterior motives are irrelevant - they were right & we knew it then.
The vast majority of French people, and people around the world opposed it for the right reasons. There was nothing calling for French-bashing. It was stupid and tacky, and I'd rather be French than one of those DixieChick-bulldozing, freedumb fry-scarfing idiots. That is fucking un-American.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 03:46 PM
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14. Not to mention the yellow ribbons
have all become faded yellow litter and the totally thrashed America rags flying from car antennas
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Spoonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 04:55 PM
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16. No one opposed it for the right reasons,
Everyone involved took a stance based on their countries potential for exploitation of the resources in Iraq. Every move was motivated by greed.

The US was by far the most villainous of the group by using force to dictate the outcome, but everyone should share some blame.

I chose to hold everyone of the participates in total contempt for there blatant disregard for human life.

The United States, France, Germany and Russia all played a game of strategic politics for monetary gain. The world chose sides and people filled the bleachers to cheer for their team.

The major players were the US and UK on one side and France, Germany, and Russia on the other.

One side wanted to kill the dictator and anyone that got in the way, the other wanted to let the dictator kill anyone that opposed him.

Unfortunately, there were no winners, and the losers were the thousands of innocent Iraqis that died.

This is the main point of my response to this thread, is that two, three, or even four wrongs don’t make a right. Regardless of your stance, your underlying motives are how you should be judged.

Your soapbox is only as strong as the wood that it’s made of – Marlin O Cherry 1900 – 1999 (registered democrat for 69 years - my Grandfather)

I am not trying to arouse anger or be confrontational. I’m still trying to figure out what should have been done.

If you do some research and look at the links below you will find the reasons way every country took the position it took. You may not agree with the source, but if you want to see the truth, dig and you will find it.

Something thats not covered in some of the links below;
French oil companies Total and Fina merged in 1997 and Total-Fina merged with Elf Aquitaine in Sept 1999 to become the fourth largest oil company in the world.
http://www.naplesnews.com/today/business/total14.htm

35% of Total Fina Elf, now just called Total, is owned directly by the French Government.

http://www.libertarian.to/NewsDta/templates/news1.php?art=art147
http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/company/cnm70502.htm
http://www.un.org/Depts/oip/background/latest/wu981026.html
http://www.sipri.se/
http://projects.sipri.se/armstrade/Trnd_Ind_IRQ_Imps_73-02.pdf
http://projects.sipri.se/armstrade/IRQ_IMPRTS_73-02.pdf
http://projects.sipri.se/armstrade/atirq_data.html
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stoner_guy Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 05:57 PM
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17. Don't know
Sadly deep fried potatos aren't on my diet.

:mad:
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